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scritch July 8th 12 06:07 PM

What typical finishes were used on pianos?
 
My neighbor had a gift piano moved, and unfortunately, the movers put a
leaky tarp on it and it got wet. Then my neighbors didn't uncover it as
soon as it arrived and it sat, covered and wet, for days. Now, of
course, it looks awful.

However, even though the finish is ruined, any veneers don't seem to
have lifted, which is good.

What typical finishes were used on older pianos? I suggested she test
for shellac with some denatured alcohol and a bit of rag. If it wasn't
shellacked, what other finishes might have been used, and how could she
proceed in refinishing it? I almost exclusively use shellac, danish
oil, or spar varnish for bright finishes, and there my experience ends.

Thanks!

Sonny July 8th 12 06:39 PM

What typical finishes were used on pianos?
 
What does her damage look like? White cloudy film? White spots?
Black spots?

Try rubbing an inconspicuous spot with lacquer thinner, to see if the
finish is lacquer.

Grand pianos can have a lacquer finish and/or rubbed oil finish.
Black lacquer was/is a long time favorite.... often a dozen or 2 or 3
of polished in coats.

scritch July 8th 12 06:51 PM

What typical finishes were used on pianos?
 
On 7/8/2012 10:39 AM, Sonny wrote:
What does her damage look like? White cloudy film? White spots?
Black spots?

Try rubbing an inconspicuous spot with lacquer thinner, to see if the
finish is lacquer.

Grand pianos can have a lacquer finish and/or rubbed oil finish.
Black lacquer was/is a long time favorite.... often a dozen or 2 or 3
of polished in coats.



Not really cloudy. Very dull, roughened, sort of wrinkly in spots. :(


Steve Turner[_3_] July 8th 12 07:11 PM

What typical finishes were used on pianos?
 
On 7/8/2012 12:51 PM, scritch wrote:
On 7/8/2012 10:39 AM, Sonny wrote:
What does her damage look like? White cloudy film? White spots?
Black spots?

Try rubbing an inconspicuous spot with lacquer thinner, to see if the
finish is lacquer.

Grand pianos can have a lacquer finish and/or rubbed oil finish.
Black lacquer was/is a long time favorite.... often a dozen or 2 or 3
of polished in coats.



Not really cloudy. Very dull, roughened, sort of wrinkly in spots. :(


The same test you used for shellac (applying a small amount of alcohol) should
also work for lacquer (apply a small amount of lacquer thinner). If it's
lacquer, the finish will dissolve in the same manner as shellac (and then "dry"
back to a cured state). Sounds to me like it's probably an oil based varnish
of some kind. Lacquer thinner might also attack that (or not), but in that
case the finish would not dissolve but would break down, congeal, and be ruined.

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J. Clarke[_2_] July 9th 12 01:12 AM

What typical finishes were used on pianos?
 
In article , says...

My neighbor had a gift piano moved, and unfortunately, the movers put a
leaky tarp on it and it got wet. Then my neighbors didn't uncover it as
soon as it arrived and it sat, covered and wet, for days. Now, of
course, it looks awful.

However, even though the finish is ruined, any veneers don't seem to
have lifted, which is good.

What typical finishes were used on older pianos? I suggested she test
for shellac with some denatured alcohol and a bit of rag. If it wasn't
shellacked, what other finishes might have been used, and how could she
proceed in refinishing it? I almost exclusively use shellac, danish
oil, or spar varnish for bright finishes, and there my experience ends.


Scritch, before you try to refinish, try working on the rough spots with
Restor-a-finish and 0000 steel wool. Read the instructions carefully.

http://www.howardproducts.com/prod-restor-a-finish.php.

If it doesn't work, then you can refinish. The stuff has fixed some
amazing messes for me though.

Home Depot, True-Value and DoItBest hardware stores generally have it.




scritch July 10th 12 02:50 AM

What typical finishes were used on pianos?
 
On 7/8/2012 5:12 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article , says...

My neighbor had a gift piano moved, and unfortunately, the movers put a
leaky tarp on it and it got wet. Then my neighbors didn't uncover it as
soon as it arrived and it sat, covered and wet, for days. Now, of
course, it looks awful.

However, even though the finish is ruined, any veneers don't seem to
have lifted, which is good.

What typical finishes were used on older pianos? I suggested she test
for shellac with some denatured alcohol and a bit of rag. If it wasn't
shellacked, what other finishes might have been used, and how could she
proceed in refinishing it? I almost exclusively use shellac, danish
oil, or spar varnish for bright finishes, and there my experience ends.


Scritch, before you try to refinish, try working on the rough spots with
Restor-a-finish and 0000 steel wool. Read the instructions carefully.

http://www.howardproducts.com/prod-restor-a-finish.php.

If it doesn't work, then you can refinish. The stuff has fixed some
amazing messes for me though.

Home Depot, True-Value and DoItBest hardware stores generally have it.



Might be worth a try. I'll suggest it and see what happens. However,
the "rough spots" are the whole piano. The only good finish left is
inside the keyboard cover.


Lew Hodgett[_6_] July 10th 12 03:02 AM

What typical finishes were used on pianos?
 

"scritch" wrote:

My neighbor had a gift piano moved, and unfortunately, the movers
put a
leaky tarp on it and it got wet. Then my neighbors didn't uncover
it as
soon as it arrived and it sat, covered and wet, for days. Now, of
course, it looks awful.

----------------------------------
Hope the mover is insured.

Law suits are a PITA.

Lew





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