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Ed Pawlowski April 1st 12 03:13 PM

Tool shroud
 


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302

m II April 1st 12 03:16 PM

Tool shroud
 
Dust from a hand plane. Need any swamp land?


-------------
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...



This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Larry Jaques[_4_] April 1st 12 03:34 PM

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Wow, an electrified hand plane! thud

I don't like the concept. It diminishes the experience of the hand
plane. It'll try to tilt the plane away from a right angle and the
hose will get in the way as you push it, I'll bet. PASS!

It's a solution for no problem which creates yet another problem.

P.S: Shavings aren't dust, they're Hungarian Paper Towels.

--
Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
-- Patricia Russell-McCloud

Doug Winterburn April 1st 12 03:35 PM

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On 04/01/2012 07:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:21 -0400, Ed wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Wow, an electrified hand plane!thud

I don't like the concept. It diminishes the experience of the hand
plane. It'll try to tilt the plane away from a right angle and the
hose will get in the way as you push it, I'll bet. PASS!

It's a solution for no problem which creates yet another problem.


Check your calendar ;-)



--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

Steve Barker[_6_] April 1st 12 04:00 PM

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On 4/1/2012 9:13 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302



LMAO! i'm sure that will work out great.

how about some air brakes for the pet turtle while you're at it?

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Steve Barker[_6_] April 1st 12 04:04 PM

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On 4/1/2012 9:35 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 04/01/2012 07:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:21 -0400, Ed wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Wow, an electrified hand plane!thud

I don't like the concept. It diminishes the experience of the hand
plane. It'll try to tilt the plane away from a right angle and the
hose will get in the way as you push it, I'll bet. PASS!

It's a solution for no problem which creates yet another problem.


Check your calendar ;-)




but it IS a legitimate link and site.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

RonB[_2_] April 1st 12 04:08 PM

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On Apr 1, 9:34*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. *Finally, a practical solution.


http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Wow, an electrified hand plane! *thud

I don't like the concept. It diminishes the experience of the hand
plane. *It'll try to tilt the plane away from a right angle and the
hose will get in the way as you push it, I'll bet. *PASS!

It's a solution for no problem which creates yet another problem.

P.S: Shavings aren't dust, they're Hungarian Paper Towels.

--
Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
* * *-- Patricia Russell-McCloud


Yeah, but if you are trying to keep a shop operation clean, it is one
more source of crud taken care of.

But it's kinda ugly on a nice hand plane.

RonB

Han April 1st 12 04:15 PM

Tool shroud
 
Ed Pawlowski wrote in
:

This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Another classic offering for the date. It'll go down in history!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

tiredofspam April 1st 12 04:16 PM

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That's an april fools joke right?

Planing has no dust, just streams of wood.
Why would you do that?

On 4/1/2012 10:13 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Puckdropper[_2_] April 1st 12 04:19 PM

Tool shroud
 
Ed Pawlowski wrote in
:



This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Does the overarm hose holder really exist? Does it work?

I get annoyed with the corrugated hose catching on the work bench while
sanding. I suppose I could make something similar with a mike stand and
some wire, but it's not worth doing if it doesn't work.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Han April 1st 12 04:22 PM

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Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in
eb.com:

Ed Pawlowski wrote in
:



This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Does the overarm hose holder really exist? Does it work?

I get annoyed with the corrugated hose catching on the work bench
while sanding. I suppose I could make something similar with a mike
stand and some wire, but it's not worth doing if it doesn't work.

Puckdropper


Something like that is sold by Festool, at Festool prices ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Ed Pawlowski April 1st 12 04:23 PM

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:04:53 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:






but it IS a legitimate link and site.


In the search section, put AFD and see what you get.

Ed Pawlowski April 1st 12 04:24 PM

Tool shroud
 
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:16:14 -0400, "m II" wrote:

Dust from a hand plane. Need any swamp land?


Whhoooooosssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Puckdropper[_2_] April 1st 12 04:25 PM

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tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com wrote in
:

That's an april fools joke right?

Planing has no dust, just streams of wood.
Why would you do that?


Having to constantly clean out the plane gets a little tiring. I'd rather
clean out the plane than change the vacuum bag, though.

A small butane torch near the mouth of the plane would work as well. It'd
simply burn the shaving as it was created and as long as you didn't drop it
or let it get too hot, "perfectly safe!" *g*

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

J. Clarke[_2_] April 1st 12 04:26 PM

Tool shroud
 
In article ,
says...

This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302

I realize it's a joke but I've picked enough stuck chips out of the
throats of planes that it occurs to me that that might not be as silly
as it looks.



Dave[_52_] April 1st 12 04:28 PM

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:04:53 -0500, Steve Barker
Check your calendar ;-)

but it IS a legitimate link and site.


Try to put one in the cart.

Dave[_52_] April 1st 12 04:33 PM

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On 01 Apr 2012 15:19:22 GMT, Puckdropper
I get annoyed with the corrugated hose catching on the work bench while
sanding. I suppose I could make something similar with a mike stand and
some wire, but it's not worth doing if it doesn't work.


Do a search for gorilla sleeve. And yes, it really is a working,
available product. If you need further confirmation, search for
gorilla sleeve on the Festool Owners Group.
http://techflex.com/prod_NHN.asp

Swingman April 1st 12 04:45 PM

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On 4/1/2012 10:22 AM, Han wrote:
Puckdropperpuckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in



Does the overarm hose holder really exist? Does it work?

I get annoyed with the corrugated hose catching on the work bench
while sanding. I suppose I could make something similar with a mike
stand and some wire, but it's not worth doing if it doesn't work.


Something like that is sold by Festool, at Festool prices ...


What's pictured is indeed the Festool system, with overhead arm, and the
name "Festool" photoshopped.

--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

Larry Jaques[_4_] April 1st 12 05:02 PM

Tool shroud
 
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 07:35:15 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On 04/01/2012 07:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:21 -0400, Ed wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Wow, an electrified hand plane!thud

I don't like the concept. It diminishes the experience of the hand
plane. It'll try to tilt the plane away from a right angle and the
hose will get in the way as you push it, I'll bet. PASS!

It's a solution for no problem which creates yet another problem.


Check your calendar ;-)


We Neanders don't need calendars. Besides, all my one-sided curlies
are thin, light, and wispy. I collect them from the ceiling.

--
Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
-- Patricia Russell-McCloud

Larry Jaques[_4_] April 1st 12 05:03 PM

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:23:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:04:53 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:






but it IS a legitimate link and site.


In the search section, put AFD and see what you get.


Ya got me, Ed. Cheers!

--
Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
-- Patricia Russell-McCloud

[email protected] April 1st 12 05:07 PM

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On Apr 1, 11:45*am, Swingman wrote:
On 4/1/2012 10:22 AM, Han wrote:

Puckdropperpuckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com *wrote in
Does the overarm hose holder really exist? *Does it work?


I get annoyed with the corrugated hose catching on the work bench
while sanding. *I suppose I could make something similar with a mike
stand and some wire, but it's not worth doing if it doesn't work.

Something like that is sold by Festool, at Festool prices ...


What's pictured is indeed the Festool system, with overhead arm, and the
name "Festool" photoshopped.

--www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)http://gplus.to/eWoodShop


Hi -

No photoshop.... we actually make these AFD tools - and they do work.
The plane is connected to the Festool Dust Extractor, which is
actuated using an RF switch embedded in the plane handle...

It's kinda cool, in a useless way.....

We'll be taking it to tradeshows for people to try.... :)

Cheers -

Rob


Han April 1st 12 05:32 PM

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Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in
eb.com:

tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com wrote in
:

That's an april fools joke right?

Planing has no dust, just streams of wood.
Why would you do that?


Having to constantly clean out the plane gets a little tiring. I'd
rather clean out the plane than change the vacuum bag, though.

A small butane torch near the mouth of the plane would work as well.
It'd simply burn the shaving as it was created and as long as you
didn't drop it or let it get too hot, "perfectly safe!" *g*

Puckdropper


Yeah, LOL!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

-MIKE- April 1st 12 05:41 PM

Tool shroud
 
On 4/1/12 10:26 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In ,
says...

This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302

I realize it's a joke but I've picked enough stuck chips out of the
throats of planes that it occurs to me that that might not be as silly
as it looks.


That is the very genius of most of their AFD tools.
They have just enough practicality and necessity that it messes with
your mind just enough that somewhere deep inside you wish it wasn't a joke.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply


Doug Miller[_4_] April 1st 12 07:12 PM

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Ed Pawlowski wrote in :



This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


That's a hoot! I never knew they had a special April First series until now.

Thanks for passing that along.


Leon[_7_] April 1st 12 08:33 PM

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On 4/1/2012 9:35 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 04/01/2012 07:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:21 -0400, Ed wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


Wow, an electrified hand plane!thud

I don't like the concept. It diminishes the experience of the hand
plane. It'll try to tilt the plane away from a right angle and the
hose will get in the way as you push it, I'll bet. PASS!

It's a solution for no problem which creates yet another problem.


Check your calendar ;-)




LOL... I was wondering who was going to catch on that that one.

Leon[_7_] April 1st 12 08:34 PM

Tool shroud
 
On 4/1/2012 10:04 AM, Steve Barker wrote:
On 4/1/2012 9:35 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 04/01/2012 07:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:13:21 -0400, Ed wrote:


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302

Wow, an electrified hand plane!thud

I don't like the concept. It diminishes the experience of the hand
plane. It'll try to tilt the plane away from a right angle and the
hose will get in the way as you push it, I'll bet. PASS!

It's a solution for no problem which creates yet another problem.


Check your calendar ;-)




but it IS a legitimate link and site.


It is also legitimately April Fools Day and Lee Valley does this every
year with a different tool.

Leon[_7_] April 1st 12 08:37 PM

Tool shroud
 
On 4/1/2012 11:41 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/1/12 10:26 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In ,
says...

This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302

I realize it's a joke but I've picked enough stuck chips out of the
throats of planes that it occurs to me that that might not be as silly
as it looks.


That is the very genius of most of their AFD tools.
They have just enough practicality and necessity that it messes with
your mind just enough that somewhere deep inside you wish it wasn't a joke.



Theses April Fools tools are always too good to be true. LOL

Swingman April 1st 12 09:00 PM

Tool shroud
 
On 4/1/2012 2:37 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/1/2012 11:41 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/1/12 10:26 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In ,
says...

This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302

I realize it's a joke but I've picked enough stuck chips out of the
throats of planes that it occurs to me that that might not be as silly
as it looks.


That is the very genius of most of their AFD tools.
They have just enough practicality and necessity that it messes with
your mind just enough that somewhere deep inside you wish it wasn't a
joke.



Theses April Fools tools are always too good to be true. LOL



Their tape measure "story stick" AFD tool wasn't a bad idea, and is
still for sale, IIRC. The only reason I didn't buy one was that you can
apparently only mark on it with a mark-a-lot, which means the lines
would be too gross for fine measurements.

Still ...

--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

[email protected] April 1st 12 09:03 PM

Tool shroud
 
... *Besides, all my one-sided curlies are thin, light, and wispy. I collect them from the ceiling.

and my shavings are so thin that they only have one side ....


Puckdropper[_2_] April 1st 12 09:28 PM

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Swingman wrote in
:


Their tape measure "story stick" AFD tool wasn't a bad idea, and is
still for sale, IIRC. The only reason I didn't buy one was that you can
apparently only mark on it with a mark-a-lot, which means the lines
would be too gross for fine measurements.

Still ...


That's my favorite April Fool's joke so far. I like the irony.

Would a fine-point sharpie work? They make some that are about as fine as
an ink pen (but they don't always seem to work well.)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Lee Michaels[_3_] April 1st 12 11:10 PM

Tool shroud
 


"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


I was going to post something yesterday about the famous April fools Lee
Valley offering. But I had to work late. I was going to speculate on what
would be offered.

It still took a few seconds for me to fully grasp it though. Even though I
knew it was coming. My first thought was, Neander meets Normite. My head
hurts.

But looking at that video erased any doubt as to the silliness of this
product. I like the line in the ad copy that the Festool dust extractor is
now converted into a shavings extractor.

Lee Valley is a class act. How many other tool companies have a totally
silly and fun tradition like them? Not only do they have good tools, but
they have a sense of humor too. Good people.




CW[_8_] April 1st 12 11:47 PM

Tool shroud
 


"Swingman" wrote in message
...

On 4/1/2012 2:37 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/1/2012 11:41 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/1/12 10:26 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In ,
says...

This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302

I realize it's a joke but I've picked enough stuck chips out of the
throats of planes that it occurs to me that that might not be as silly
as it looks.


That is the very genius of most of their AFD tools.
They have just enough practicality and necessity that it messes with
your mind just enough that somewhere deep inside you wish it wasn't a
joke.



Theses April Fools tools are always too good to be true. LOL



Their tape measure "story stick" AFD tool wasn't a bad idea, and is
still for sale, IIRC. The only reason I didn't buy one was that you can
apparently only mark on it with a mark-a-lot, which means the lines
would be too gross for fine measurements.

Still ...
================================================== ================================================== ==

How about a fine tip Sharpie. One thing though, a sharpie is a lot more
permanent than a marks-a-lot. It may not come off.


CW[_8_] April 1st 12 11:49 PM

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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
b.com...



"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...


This is one of the better dust collecting devices I've seen. I've
ordered two of them. Finally, a practical solution.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=69302


I was going to post something yesterday about the famous April fools Lee
Valley offering. But I had to work late. I was going to speculate on what
would be offered.

It still took a few seconds for me to fully grasp it though. Even though I
knew it was coming. My first thought was, Neander meets Normite. My head
hurts.

But looking at that video erased any doubt as to the silliness of this
product. I like the line in the ad copy that the Festool dust extractor is
now converted into a shavings extractor.

Lee Valley is a class act. How many other tool companies have a totally
silly and fun tradition like them? Not only do they have good tools, but
they have a sense of humor too. Good people.
================================================== =================
Yes, and they put a lot of money into it. These jokes of theirs are very
expensive.


-MIKE- April 2nd 12 02:41 AM

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On 4/1/12 5:47 PM, CW wrote:
How about a fine tip Sharpie. One thing though, a sharpie is a lot more
permanent than a marks-a-lot. It may not come off.



Acetone, brake cleaner, flux remover, etc, etc.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply


tiredofspam April 2nd 12 04:18 AM

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Sharpies come off with Alcohol.

On 4/1/2012 9:41 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/1/12 5:47 PM, CW wrote:
How about a fine tip Sharpie. One thing though, a sharpie is a lot more
permanent than a marks-a-lot. It may not come off.



Acetone, brake cleaner, flux remover, etc, etc.



Puckdropper[_2_] April 2nd 12 09:54 AM

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tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com wrote in news:seSdnY1T88frh-
:

Sharpies come off with Alcohol.


It doesn't even have to be the good shellac alcohol, it can be the cheap
70% isopropyl.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Leon[_7_] April 2nd 12 04:04 PM

Tool shroud
 
On 4/1/2012 8:41 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/1/12 5:47 PM, CW wrote:
How about a fine tip Sharpie. One thing though, a sharpie is a lot more
permanent than a marks-a-lot. It may not come off.



Acetone, brake cleaner, flux remover, etc, etc.



80 GRIT SAND PAPER. ;~)

Han April 2nd 12 09:39 PM

Tool shroud
 
wrote in
:

On Apr 1, 11:45*am, Swingman wrote:
On 4/1/2012 10:22 AM, Han wrote:

Puckdropperpuckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com *wrote in
Does the overarm hose holder really exist? *Does it work?


I get annoyed with the corrugated hose catching on the work bench
while sanding. *I suppose I could make something similar with a
mike stand and some wire, but it's not worth doing if it doesn't
work.
Something like that is sold by Festool, at Festool prices ...


What's pictured is indeed the Festool system, with overhead arm, and
the name "Festool" photoshopped.

--www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

Hi -

No photoshop.... we actually make these AFD tools - and they do work.
The plane is connected to the Festool Dust Extractor, which is
actuated using an RF switch embedded in the plane handle...

It's kinda cool, in a useless way.....

We'll be taking it to tradeshows for people to try.... :)

Cheers -

Rob


Kudos, Rob!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Swingman April 2nd 12 10:09 PM

Tool shroud
 
On 4/1/2012 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Apr 1, 11:45 am, wrote:


What's pictured is indeed the Festool system, with overhead arm, and the
name "Festool" photoshopped.


No photoshop.... we actually make these AFD tools - and they do work.
The plane is connected to the Festool Dust Extractor, which is
actuated using an RF switch embedded in the plane handle...


Could tell it was a Festool dust extractor because I have one ... just
couldn't make out the Festool name, in its usual place, on this monitor.

And it looked kinda naked without it.

Switched monitors, got real close, and bingo. :)


It's kinda cool, in a useless way.....

We'll be taking it to tradeshows for people to try.... :)


The AFD tools are always great ... keep it up!

--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

Larry Jaques[_4_] April 3rd 12 12:57 AM

Tool shroud
 
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:03:14 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

... *Besides, all my one-sided curlies are thin, light, and wispy. I collect them from the ceiling.


and my shavings are so thin that they only have one side ....


ThashwhatIsled,diddleI?

And my irons are sharpened so well that you can't move them too fast
for fear of splitting atoms with 'em.

This reminds me of the saying "The older I get, the better I was."

--
Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
-- Patricia Russell-McCloud


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