"Howard" wrote in message
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A device that stops a blade within 5 ms of contact with human flesh.
Videos of operation at http://www.sawstop.com/home.htm (this site may
be 'slashdotted', so check back in a day or so if you can't see it).

This device was introduced in 2001, and was supposed to be
commercially available by 2003. The device is supposed to add about
$150 to the cost of a consumer-grade table saw or bandsaw.

This has been talked about here for quite a while, 3 or 4 yeare IIRC.

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?

Only for those that can find a way to get hurt by a saw that is not plugged
in. Does the safety on a gun make it more dangerous because it will
encourage you to look down the barrel of a loaded gun? If you are tye type
person that would not have some fear of a 3400 rpm blade because you know
that it will stop turning if you touch it, something else is going to get
you long bedor the saw will. Pedestrians always have the right of way on
the street. Those that practice that right over better judgement get hit by
cars. Like anything else in life, there are dangers all around us all the
time. The Saw Stop is designed to lessen the results of an accident, not
prevent the accident. If you think that it would make you less careful
around the saw, perhaps you should not be around the saw to start with.

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?


Only for very very stupid people and they'd probably find a way to cut them
selves on a pencil sharpener.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods

www.heirloom-woods.net
"Howard" wrote in message
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A device that stops a blade within 5 ms of contact with human flesh.
Videos of operation at http://www.sawstop.com/home.htm (this site may
be 'slashdotted', so check back in a day or so if you can't see it).

This device was introduced in 2001, and was supposed to be
commercially available by 2003. The device is supposed to add about
$150 to the cost of a consumer-grade table saw or bandsaw.

---
Howard Lee Harkness
Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com
Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com
Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net

Or paper?

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:42:40 -0400, "Mike G"
wrote:

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?


Only for very very stupid people and they'd probably find a way to cut them
selves on a pencil sharpener.

"Howard" wrote in message
...
A device that stops a blade within 5 ms of contact with human flesh.
Videos of operation at http://www.sawstop.com/home.htm (this site may
be 'slashdotted', so check back in a day or so if you can't see it).

This device was introduced in 2001, and was supposed to be
commercially available by 2003. The device is supposed to add about
$150 to the cost of a consumer-grade table saw or bandsaw.

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?

---
Howard Lee Harkness
Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com
Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com
Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net

Nope. Never heard of it.

todd

My son-in-law is a woodworker and a family practice physician. He has seen
the demo and is concerned this is going to cut in on his business.

Seriously, I know nothing about it. I do know I got cut pretty bad a few
years ago after the saw was turned off. I walked back to the machine to
pick up a piece of cutoff and didn't notice the blade was still spinning. I
doubt if this would protect us from this kind of stupidity.

"Howard" wrote in message
...
A device that stops a blade within 5 ms of contact with human flesh.
Videos of operation at http://www.sawstop.com/home.htm (this site may
be 'slashdotted', so check back in a day or so if you can't see it).

This device was introduced in 2001, and was supposed to be
commercially available by 2003. The device is supposed to add about
$150 to the cost of a consumer-grade table saw or bandsaw.

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?

---
Howard Lee Harkness
Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com
Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com
Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net

Howard wrote:
A device that stops a blade within 5 ms of contact with human flesh.
Videos of operation at http://www.sawstop.com/home.htm (this site may
be 'slashdotted', so check back in a day or so if you can't see it).

This device was introduced in 2001, and was supposed to be
commercially available by 2003. The device is supposed to add about
$150 to the cost of a consumer-grade table saw or bandsaw.

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?

---
Howard Lee Harkness
Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com
Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com
Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net

The number one safety feature of any device is the one between your ears.

--

Christian Groth


Nothing is fool-proof;
Fools are just too dang creative.

"C.Groth" wrote in message
...
Howard wrote:

The number one safety feature of any device is the one between your ears.

Exactly, and it even makes mistakes. Note the first line of your line
below.


--

Christian Groth


Nothing is fool-proof;
Fools are just too dang creative.

no. for every fool that thinks they are invincible and may get hurt due to
lack of respect, there are others (more people) that didnt get their hand
cut off because the sawstop worked. in fact in many cases it would probably
even save the fool.

not to mention anyone who thinks the safety device is a substitute for
thinking is gonna get hurt no matter what eventually...

randy

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?

"Howard" wrote in message
...
A device that stops a blade within 5 ms of contact with human flesh.
Videos of operation at http://www.sawstop.com/home.htm (this site may
be 'slashdotted', so check back in a day or so if you can't see it).

This device was introduced in 2001, and was supposed to be
commercially available by 2003. The device is supposed to add about
$150 to the cost of a consumer-grade table saw or bandsaw.

Gotta wonder, though... will this type of technology actually
*increase* injuries because of a reduction in respect for the tool?

---
Howard Lee Harkness
Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com
Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com
Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net

The problem with this new device is that all table saws made previously are
defective in the eyes of greedy lawyers. They will demand table saw
manufacturers incorporate this device on all new saws and provide recalls to
retrofit old saws. Also, what about the thousands who have lost fingers to
the evil table saw. They will demand compensation because their saw did not
have this safety feature. It's all about sucking the money out of the evil
corporations and there is no personal responsibility.

Not being negative about the safety device. It has to prove it's worth (cost
vs. benefit). It's just that someone else is always deciding this for us
idiots who can't do anything without hurting ourselves.

"RonB" wrote in message
news:kMDEc.22559$rn1.10518@okepread07...
My son-in-law is a woodworker and a family practice physician. He has
seen
the demo and is concerned this is going to cut in on his business.

Seriously, I know nothing about it. I do know I got cut pretty bad a few
years ago after the saw was turned off. I walked back to the machine to
pick up a piece of cutoff and didn't notice the blade was still spinning.
I
doubt if this would protect us from this kind of stupidity.


I did the almost same thing almost 16 years ago. I e-mailed the Saw Stop
people a couple of years ago and they indicated that the device will work
even if the power to the motor has been turned off.

"Leon" wrote in message
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I did the almost same thing almost 16 years ago. I e-mailed the Saw Stop
people a couple of years ago and they indicated that the device will work
even if the power to the motor has been turned off.


You're kidding, right? This thing will fire if you touch the blade after
power has been removed from the motor? How in the hell are you supposed to
change blades without this thing going off?

Frank

"Frank Ketchum" wrote in
k.net:


"Leon" wrote in message
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I did the almost same thing almost 16 years ago. I e-mailed the Saw
Stop people a couple of years ago and they indicated that the device
will work even if the power to the motor has been turned off.


You're kidding, right? This thing will fire if you touch the blade
after power has been removed from the motor? How in the hell are you
supposed to change blades without this thing going off?

Frank




With great difficulty and a lot of time.

"Frank Ketchum" wrote in message
k.net...

You're kidding, right? This thing will fire if you touch the blade after
power has been removed from the motor? How in the hell are you supposed
to
change blades without this thing going off?


A person being concerned about safety and his well being would probably
UNPLUG the saw.