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What Glue For Veneer?
I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II,
successfully. I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny |
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Sonny wrote:
I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Hide glue Contact cement Yellow glue White glue -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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"Sonny" wrote in message ... I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny ============ It takes a "bond on contact" type cement for larger veneer areas due to not being able to keep all areas of the surface tight at the same time, while the glue is hardening. Typical wood glues will not perform well unless you have a press with appropriate surface and a few thousand pound of pressure, similar to a photographer's picture press. Contact cement or equivalent. -- Eric |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:11:08 -0400, Eric wrote:
It takes a "bond on contact" type cement for larger veneer areas due to not being able to keep all areas of the surface tight at the same time, while the glue is hardening. You've never done hammer veneering with hide glue? -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:11:08 -0400, Eric wrote: It takes a "bond on contact" type cement for larger veneer areas due to not being able to keep all areas of the surface tight at the same time, while the glue is hardening. You've never done hammer veneering with hide glue? ======== No I haven't. I am not familiar with that product. I would assume it is an adhesive for leather and stays flexible, like contact cement, to work in that application. Different meanings for the word "hide". LOL -- Eric |
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On Oct 1, 9:54*am, Sonny wrote:
I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. *I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? *I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. *The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. *Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny Hot hide glue. You can apply the veneer with a "hammer" while it's still liquid, or you can apply glue to the veneer and substrate, let dry, then iron on the veneer with a clothes iron set to 140 - 150 degrees. That same iron can be clamped upside and used like a hot plate to heat the glue in a soup can if you don't have a "proper" (i.e. $150) glue pot. Other way is to mix the glue, let it sit for an hour, then nuke it in a microwave for 30 seconds to a minute, until a cooking thermometer reads 140 - 150 F (higher temps degrade collagen). Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. |
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On Oct 1, 9:51*pm, "Eric" wrote:
"Larry Blanchard" *wrote in .... On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:11:08 -0400, Eric wrote: It takes a "bond on contact" type cement for larger veneer areas due to not being able to keep all areas of the surface tight at the same time, while the glue is hardening. You've never done hammer veneering with hide glue? ======== No I haven't. I am not familiar with that product. I would assume it is an adhesive for leather and stays flexible, like contact cement, to work in that application. Different meanings for the word "hide". LOL Cures hard and brittle, not flexible. That's part of the reason it's used for instrument construction. Better sound transmission, and necks or other parts under constant tension won't bow or move and take a permanent set from glue creep. |
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On 10/1/11 8:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
On Oct 1, 9:54 am, wrote: I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny Hot hide glue. You can apply the veneer with a "hammer" while it's still liquid, or you can apply glue to the veneer and substrate, let dry, then iron on the veneer with a clothes iron set to 140 - 150 degrees. That same iron can be clamped upside and used like a hot plate to heat the glue in a soup can if you don't have a "proper" (i.e. $150) glue pot. Other way is to mix the glue, let it sit for an hour, then nuke it in a microwave for 30 seconds to a minute, until a cooking thermometer reads 140 - 150 F (higher temps degrade collagen). Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. Or just buy the synthetic stuff in a plastic bottle. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Oct 1, 10:03*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
On 10/1/11 8:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote: On Oct 1, 9:54 am, *wrote: I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. *I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? *I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. *The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. *Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny Hot hide glue. *You can apply the veneer with a "hammer" while it's still liquid, or you can apply glue to the veneer and substrate, let dry, then iron on the veneer with a clothes iron set to 140 - 150 degrees. That same iron can be clamped upside and used like a hot plate to heat the glue in a soup can if you don't have a "proper" (i.e. $150) glue pot. *Other way is to mix the glue, let it sit for an hour, then nuke it in a microwave for 30 seconds to a minute, until a cooking thermometer reads 140 - 150 F (higher temps degrade collagen). Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. *Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. Or just buy the synthetic stuff in a plastic bottle. Liquid hide glue? Made viable at room temp by addition of urea, with only a negligible strength tradeoff _if_ it's fresh. It's worthless after six months past packaging date. The hot glue I'm using now is from 30 year old stock, and it's as good as new. Holds wood like it was welded. |
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On 10/1/11 9:09 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
On Oct 1, 10:03 pm, wrote: On 10/1/11 8:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote: On Oct 1, 9:54 am, wrote: I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny Hot hide glue. You can apply the veneer with a "hammer" while it's still liquid, or you can apply glue to the veneer and substrate, let dry, then iron on the veneer with a clothes iron set to 140 - 150 degrees. That same iron can be clamped upside and used like a hot plate to heat the glue in a soup can if you don't have a "proper" (i.e. $150) glue pot. Other way is to mix the glue, let it sit for an hour, then nuke it in a microwave for 30 seconds to a minute, until a cooking thermometer reads 140 - 150 F (higher temps degrade collagen). Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. Or just buy the synthetic stuff in a plastic bottle. Liquid hide glue? Made viable at room temp by addition of urea, with only a negligible strength tradeoff _if_ it's fresh. It's worthless after six months past packaging date. The hot glue I'm using now is from 30 year old stock, and it's as good as new. Holds wood like it was welded. And it's soooooo easy to use. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 23:24:56 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:11:08 -0400, Eric wrote: It takes a "bond on contact" type cement for larger veneer areas due to not being able to keep all areas of the surface tight at the same time, while the glue is hardening. You've never done hammer veneering with hide glue? Why would anyone ever wish to veneer a hammer, LB? groan -- It takes as much energy to wish as to plan. --Eleanor Roosevelt |
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On Oct 1, 11:41*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
On 10/1/11 9:09 PM, Father Haskell wrote: On Oct 1, 10:03 pm, *wrote: On 10/1/11 8:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote: On Oct 1, 9:54 am, * *wrote: I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. *I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? *I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. *The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. *Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny Hot hide glue. *You can apply the veneer with a "hammer" while it's still liquid, or you can apply glue to the veneer and substrate, let dry, then iron on the veneer with a clothes iron set to 140 - 150 degrees. That same iron can be clamped upside and used like a hot plate to heat the glue in a soup can if you don't have a "proper" (i.e. $150) glue pot. *Other way is to mix the glue, let it sit for an hour, then nuke it in a microwave for 30 seconds to a minute, until a cooking thermometer reads 140 - 150 F (higher temps degrade collagen). Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. *Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. Or just buy the synthetic stuff in a plastic bottle. Liquid hide glue? *Made viable at room temp by addition of urea, with only a negligible strength tradeoff _if_ it's fresh. *It's worthless after six months past packaging date. The hot glue I'm using now is from 30 year old stock, and it's as good as new. *Holds wood like it was welded. And it's soooooo easy to use. It's only slow to set up the pot. I cheat, and preheat the water and glue in the microwave. Once the pot is up to working temperature, however, you can get a lot of gluing done very fast (you pretty much have to). Apply glue, rub and hold pieces together for a minute, proceed to the next joint. Nice not to have your entire production slowed and bottlenecked by not having enough clamps. This demo makes superglue look slower than January molasses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21sL6XLM02Y |
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Father Haskell wrote in
: On Oct 1, 11:41*pm, -MIKE- wrote: On 10/1/11 9:09 PM, Father Haskell wrote: On Oct 1, 10:03 pm, *wrote: On 10/1/11 8:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote: On Oct 1, 9:54 am, * *wrote: I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. *I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers mis sing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? *I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. *The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. *Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny Hot hide glue. *You can apply the veneer with a "hammer" while it's still liquid, or you can apply glue to the veneer and substrate, let dry, then iron on the veneer with a clothes iron set to 140 - 150 degrees. That same iron can be clamped upside and used like a hot plate to heat the glue in a soup can if you don't have a "proper" (i.e. $150) glue pot. *Other way is to mix the glue, let it sit for an hour, then nuke it in a microwave for 30 seconds to a minute, until a cooking thermometer reads 140 - 150 F (higher temps degrade collagen). Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. *Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. Or just buy the synthetic stuff in a plastic bottle. Liquid hide glue? *Made viable at room temp by addition of urea, with only a negligible strength tradeoff _if_ it's fresh. *It's worthless after six months past packaging date. The hot glue I'm using now is from 30 year old stock, and it's as good as new. *Holds wood like it was welded. And it's soooooo easy to use. It's only slow to set up the pot. I cheat, and preheat the water and glue in the microwave. Once the pot is up to working temperature, however, you can get a lot of gluing done very fast (you pretty much have to). Apply glue, rub and hold pieces together for a minute, proceed to the next joint. Nice not to have your entire production slowed and bottlenecked by not having enough clamps. This demo makes superglue look slower than January molasses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21sL6XLM02Y Great! You've got me convinced. Now where are the best materials/prices? -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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I viewed several of the YouTube videos for application. I can't tell
if any of those veneers had PSA backing (I don't think so), paper backing or if the veneer was raw (no backing). The videos didn't mention whether the veneer was backed with anything. I ordered the paper backed veneer - http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...hippingBilling Does using paper backed not matter, as to what gluing technique is used, i.e., hide glue, contact cement, yellow or white glue? The WoodCraft's site, for another paper backed veneer, recommended using contact cement or cold press glue for the paper backed veneer. I thought I might try the yellow glue technique, using titebond II or Titebond III, since I have these on hand. Sonny |
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If hide glue is the best approach, I'll order the appropriate tools,
though I would rarely use them, later. I wouldn't mind learning how to do the hammered technique. This project is not that special, so learning on this piece (circa about 1940s, I suppose) would be favorable. Sonny |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:51:19 -0400, Eric wrote:
You've never done hammer veneering with hide glue? ======== No I haven't. I am not familiar with that product. I would assume it is an adhesive for leather and stays flexible, like contact cement, to work in that application. Well, no. It is brittle and does not creep under load, like PVA does. It is used for veneering and for musical instrument making. Museum conservators strongly suggest that anything you make that might become a "heirloom" be assembled with hide glue because it is reversible. Also, since it is a protein, glue soaking through a thin veneer does not create an ugly blotch that won't take dye or stain. I could go on, but it's easier to point you to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_glue Try it - even if only the liquid stuff that doesn't require heat. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 07:38:27 -0700, Sonny wrote:
Does using paper backed not matter, as to what gluing technique is used, i.e., hide glue, contact cement, yellow or white glue? I could be wrong, but I thought the paper backed stuff was designed to use with contact cement. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 18:52:59 -0700, Father Haskell wrote:
Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. There was an article long ago in FWW about a Japanese craftsman who used rice glue. He said it not only glued his projects, it served as his lunch! I suppose the same could be said for the gelatin. I think my wife lost her taste for Jello after I told her it was just hide glue with more refining :-). -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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"Eric" writes:
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:11:08 -0400, Eric wrote: It takes a "bond on contact" type cement for larger veneer areas due to not being able to keep all areas of the surface tight at the same time, while the glue is hardening. You've never done hammer veneering with hide glue? ======== No I haven't. I am not familiar with that product. Hide glue is, as the name implies, made from animal hides. I would assume it is an adhesive for leather and stays flexible, like contact cement, to work in that application. No, it is a stiff glue, ideal for veneering. Long open time. Doesn't require great pressures. DAGS "Veneer Hammering" for more information. scott |
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On Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:38:27 AM UTC-7, Sonny wrote:
Does using paper backed not matter, as to what gluing technique is used, i.e., hide glue, contact cement, yellow or white glue? The WoodCraft's site, for another paper backed veneer, recommended using contact cement or cold press glue for the paper backed veneer. I thought I might try the yellow glue technique, using titebond II or Titebond III, since I have these on hand. I've heard that thin veneers with water-based glues are a problem, because the water expands the veneer, then on drying it can check or curl. One can, however, apply a thin Titebond glue layer, to each of the two surfaces, let it all dry, then iron it down like a hotmelt glue. I've personally found contact cement very effective and the long working time means you needn't (cannot, really) rush. |
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On Oct 2, 12:27*pm, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 18:52:59 -0700, Father Haskell wrote: Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. *Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. There was an article long ago in FWW about a Japanese craftsman who used rice glue. *He said it not only glued his projects, it served as his lunch! *I suppose the same could be said for the gelatin. I think my wife lost her taste for Jello after I told her it was just hide glue with more refining :-). -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw I'm starting to think that Jello was invented as a drinking bet between two food chemists, to see if glue could be sold as food. |
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On Oct 2, 9:08*am, "J. Clarke" wrote:
In article 7ab539a2-7bd3-48e4-b043-3d88c3289db5 @q25g2000vbx.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 1, 10:03*pm, -MIKE- wrote: On 10/1/11 8:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote: On Oct 1, 9:54 am, *wrote: I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. *I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? *I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. *The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. *Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny Hot hide glue. *You can apply the veneer with a "hammer" while it's still liquid, or you can apply glue to the veneer and substrate, let dry, then iron on the veneer with a clothes iron set to 140 - 150 degrees. That same iron can be clamped upside and used like a hot plate to heat the glue in a soup can if you don't have a "proper" (i.e. $150) glue pot. *Other way is to mix the glue, let it sit for an hour, then nuke it in a microwave for 30 seconds to a minute, until a cooking thermometer reads 140 - 150 F (higher temps degrade collagen). Unflavored Knox gelatin is very similar to horse glue and handles the same. *Dunno if it's useful for veneering, but I tested it with a couple of blocks of scrap, and the joint couldn't be split with a hammer. Or just buy the synthetic stuff in a plastic bottle. Liquid hide glue? *Made viable at room temp by addition of urea, with only a negligible strength tradeoff _if_ it's fresh. *It's worthless after six months past packaging date. It's very convenient though before it expires. *I just wish that the local hardware store would keep their stock current--they have it in small sizes but the stock on the shelf is about two years out of date. * Woodcraft has it fresh but only in big bottles that I won't use up before it expires. The hot stuff lasts forever dry. Even mixed, unused glue can be stored for a long time in the refrigerator. Mold will ruin it, but I suspect preheating in a microwave kills any spores, same as microwaving a sponge sterilizes it. The jar I mixed up a month ago still hasn't transmogrified into something horrid and foul. |
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On 10/1/2011 8:54 AM, Sonny wrote:
I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, successfully. I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing the veneer on their faces. What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer application? I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate glue. The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. Base wood is solid maple and the veneer will be mahogany. Thanks. Sonny One of my favorites for wood veneers and laminating lately: http://www.woodcraft.com/Family/2005350/2005350.aspx Has less formaldehyde than most plastic resin glues. All you need is a measuring and some water. |
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Sonny wrote:
: I've repaired small veneer chips/missing pieces, using Titebond II, : successfully. I now have a old dresser project with 2 drawers missing : the veneer on their faces. : What type of glue is appropriate for larger sheets of veneer : application? I don't think typical yellow glue is the appropriate : glue. The drawer faces measure 42"W X 8"H. Base wood is solid maple : and the veneer will be mahogany. This is a good application for yellow glue, which can be applied, let dry, then will reactivate if you go over it with a clothes iron (forget the right temp range, fairly low). Or hide glue. There are several inexpensive books on veneering, any one of which will give details on hide glue. Do NOT use contact cement. -- Andy Barss |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:41:37 +0000, Andrew Barss wrote:
Or hide glue. There are several inexpensive books on veneering, any one of which will give details on hide glue. Unless you already have a glue pot, use the liquid hide glue. It's not worth using hot hide glue for one project. Take a look at: http://www.fullchisel.com/blog/?p=751 -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On 11/6/2011 11:39 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:41:37 +0000, Andrew Barss wrote: Or hide glue. There are several inexpensive books on veneering, any one of which will give details on hide glue. Unless you already have a glue pot, use the liquid hide glue. It's not worth using hot hide glue for one project. Take a look at: http://www.fullchisel.com/blog/?p=751 Stephens a really good guy, gracious, extremely knowledgeable about hand tools and glues, and willing to patiently explain his choices. He does mostly restoration projects and is a big proponent of hide glues, using the exclusively ... even Franklin's Liquid Hide Glue, in lieu of the real thing. Lately I've had the pleasure of visiting with him, one on one, in a couple of video "Hangouts" on Google+, very informative. (He was looking for a guinea pig to test his video camera out, and I was the lucky one in that regard, so I took full advantage of the opportunity) -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On Nov 6, 12:39*pm, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:41:37 +0000, Andrew Barss wrote: Or hide glue. *There are several inexpensive books on veneering, any one of which will give details on hide glue. Unless you already have a glue pot, use the liquid hide glue. *It's not worth using hot hide glue for one project. *Take a look at: http://www.fullchisel.com/blog/?p=751 Standard model "cheap" glue pot: http://www.spurlocktools.com/id57.htm $12.00 knockoff, 1000w, heats glue fast, although the thermostat is hard to fine set. Plug in, wait for the water temp to hit 160 and the glue 145, then unplug. The glue will stay hot enough for the next 15 minutes. Plug in again and repeat as needed. |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:02:29 -0800, Father Haskell wrote:
Standard model "cheap" glue pot: http://www.spurlocktools.com/id57.htm $12.00 knockoff, 1000w, heats glue fast, although the thermostat is hard to fine set. Plug in, wait for the water temp to hit 160 and the glue 145, then unplug. Actually, I tend to go with the liquid stuff any time I don't need the extra strength of a high grade hot glue. Which certainly is the case for veneering. While there are cheap alternatives to a glue pot that work well, including the one you show, there's still the problem of the glue gelling too quickly if the shop and/or the wood is cool. Yes, one can solve that problem with a little urea, but that starts to resemble the liquid stuff anyway so why bother. Everybody has there own preferences and the hot hide glue certainly is more traditional. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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What Glue For Veneer?
Unibond 800 is made for veneer. It dries rock hard (so no veneer creep
at the seams) and is not water based (so the veneer doesn't get all curly on you when you apply the glue to the back of the veneer. http://www.vacupress.com/veneerglue.htm It's a two part glue so you will need to measure and mix carefully. It doesn't smell too bad, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have good air exhaust to keep from breathing it for too long. Mitch |
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What Glue For Veneer?
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:22:11 -0800, MB wrote:
Unibond 800 is made for veneer. But it requires pressure. In fact the web site says it's designed for use with a vacuum press. With hide glue, hot or liquid, all you need is a veneer hammer, and some folks make do with a roller. How about the ability to do curved surfaces without either a press or a form? A cinch with hide glue because of its quick grab. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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