http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

I'd rather read his obituary.

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:30:26 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote:

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

I'd rather read his obituary.

You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?


He America's First Black President
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr.../bill-clinton/

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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:30:26 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote:

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

I'd rather read his obituary.

You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and Bush was
the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.

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On 7/25/2011 1:01 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:30:26 -0400,
wrote:

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

I'd rather read his obituary.

You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and Bush was
the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.


Have you already forgotten the peanut farmer???

Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet writes:
On 7/25/2011 1:01 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:30:26 -0400,
wrote:

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

I'd rather read his obituary.

You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and Bush was
the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.


Have you already forgotten the peanut farmer???

Considering Jimmy inheritied inflation from ford, and Reagon actively
prevented resolution of the Tehran hostage crisis, what did Jimmy do
that was so bad?

scott

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:57:56 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 7/25/2011 1:01 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:30:26 -0400,
wrote:

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

I'd rather read his obituary.

You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and Bush was
the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.


Have you already forgotten the peanut farmer???

Or "That depends what 'is' is, your honor." and "No, I did not have
sex with Monica Lewinsky, your honor." Clintoon?

Granted, Shrub was no peach, but have some sense of perspective!

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-- Fred Allen

Leon wrote:
On 7/25/2011 1:01 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:30:26 -0400,
wrote:

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

I'd rather read his obituary.

You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and
Bush was the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.


Have you already forgotten the peanut farmer???

No, I remember him very well. He was wishy-washy and ineffective but at
least he was a moral man (too moral). Bush was as close to a fascist as we
have had.

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"Leon" wrote in message
...


You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and Bush
was
the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.

Have you already forgotten the peanut farmer???

Refresh my memory, how many wars did he start?

"dadiOH" wrote in message ...


You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and Bush
was the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.

Bingo. Democrats (mostly) expected to be disappointed by a Republican
President, the surprise was all the Republicans who ended up feeling the
same way. As the late, great Wm. F. Buckley, Jr. said, whatever G.W. Bush
is, he isn't a conservative. Real conservatives believe in fiscal
responsibility on the part of govt. (the federal debt doubled on Bush's
watch), they believe in avoiding pointless military adventurism (any
explanations needed there?) and they believe in defending individual
liberties (rather than looking for reasons to ignore the Constitution).
When I think back to how I cheered Bush becoming President instead of Gore I
can only shake my head in disbelief.

DGDevin wrote:
"dadiOH" wrote in message ...


You'd be a liberal hate monger, right?

Actually, no. Been a moderate Republican for close to 60 years and
Bush was the worst I've seen Democrat or Republican.

Bingo. Democrats (mostly) expected to be disappointed by a Republican
President, the surprise was all the Republicans who ended up feeling
the same way. As the late, great Wm. F. Buckley, Jr. said, whatever
G.W. Bush is, he isn't a conservative. Real conservatives believe in
fiscal responsibility on the part of govt. (the federal debt doubled
on Bush's watch), they believe in avoiding pointless military
adventurism (any explanations needed there?) and they believe in
defending individual liberties (rather than looking for reasons to
ignore the Constitution).

They also believe that one of the functions of government should be to
provide a climate that enables people to help themselves, not just hand
stuff to them.

When I think back to how I cheered Bush
becoming President instead of Gore I can only shake my head in
disbelief.

It's OK, you were young and foolish

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"dadiOH" wrote:

I'd rather read his obituary.
-----------------------------
If you want an arguement, change the subject.

Lew

Max wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

A more interesting biography would be of his father, George H.W. Bush.

Bush Senior proved one could come to Texas with just a few million dollars
in his jeans and make it big.

On Jul 24, 10:22*pm, "Max" wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

This is probably the most honest bio I've read about George W. - a
spoiled brat who used and abused his father's position and money to
get himself into politics and high office. Sounds like something a
lot of people have done but will never admit it.

"Jimbo" wrote in message
...
On Jul 24, 10:22 pm, "Max" wrote:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

This is probably the most honest bio I've read about George W. - a
spoiled brat who used and abused his father's position and money to
get himself into politics and high office. Sounds like something a
lot of people have done but will never admit it.



Considering this was largely a propaganda piece with twisted selective
"facts" and heavy albeit sly editoralizing.......a honest bio is somewhere
beyond a reach. When things pretend to be a history they do all of us a
disservice......conclusions based on **** often simply result in more turds.



Rod

Rod & BJ Jacobson wrote:


Considering this was largely a propaganda piece with twisted selective
"facts" and heavy albeit sly editoralizing.......a honest bio is
somewhere beyond a reach. When things pretend to be a history they do
all of us a disservice......conclusions based on **** often simply
result in more turds.

I agree. For example, the piece mentioned, not for the first time, Dubya's
seeming ducking of his National Guard obligations. I have yet to see, in the
dozens of accounts I've read about this failure to participate, how his
actions deviated from the usual and accepted practice of the time.

In other words, was "everybody" doing what he did or did he really shirk his
obligations and was never called out?

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Rod & BJ Jacobson wrote:


Considering this was largely a propaganda piece with twisted selective
"facts" and heavy albeit sly editoralizing.......a honest bio is
somewhere beyond a reach. When things pretend to be a history they do
all of us a disservice......conclusions based on **** often simply
result in more turds.

I agree. For example, the piece mentioned, not for the first time, Dubya's
seeming ducking of his National Guard obligations. I have yet to see, in
the dozens of accounts I've read about this failure to participate, how
his actions deviated from the usual and accepted practice of the time.

In other words, was "everybody" doing what he did or did he really shirk
his obligations and was never called out?



I just love that excuse. Johnny does it so why can't I.
The first admonition from me when conducting a verbal reprimand was to warn
the employee that such excuses would not be tolerated.
"First of all, you're not "Johnny"'
"Secondly, I am not required to inform you of whatever disciplinary measure
I may or may not have taken with another employee.
"Third, you may not be aware of all the circumstances surrounding the
performance, or lack of, by another employee."

Max (but I don't think Bush was all that bad either) ;-)

On Jul 26, 11:12*am, "Max" wrote:


Max (but I don't think Bush was all that bad either) *;-)

He made a great puppet for the neocons.

Max wrote:

I agree. For example, the piece mentioned, not for the first time,
Dubya's seeming ducking of his National Guard obligations. I have
yet to see, in the dozens of accounts I've read about this failure
to participate, how his actions deviated from the usual and accepted
practice of the time. In other words, was "everybody" doing what he did
or did he really
shirk his obligations and was never called out?



I just love that excuse. Johnny does it so why can't I.
The first admonition from me when conducting a verbal reprimand was
to warn the employee that such excuses would not be tolerated.
"First of all, you're not "Johnny"'
"Secondly, I am not required to inform you of whatever disciplinary
measure I may or may not have taken with another employee.
"Third, you may not be aware of all the circumstances surrounding the
performance, or lack of, by another employee."


Good point. But there are two other, complimentary, points:

One: Courts have held that, in spite of written rules, a pattern of behavior
trumps the written rule. To punish someone for an infraction that is
universally ignored will not be sustained.

Two: We still don't know the circumstances. It could be Bush simply shirked
his duty and nobody bothered to sanction him. Or it could be he tried to
participate but the chain of command simply said "Go away. Quit bothering
us. We'll call you if we need you."

"HeyBub" writes:
Rod & BJ Jacobson wrote:


Considering this was largely a propaganda piece with twisted selective
"facts" and heavy albeit sly editoralizing.......a honest bio is
somewhere beyond a reach. When things pretend to be a history they do
all of us a disservice......conclusions based on **** often simply
result in more turds.

I agree. For example, the piece mentioned, not for the first time, Dubya's
seeming ducking of his National Guard obligations. I have yet to see, in the
dozens of accounts I've read about this failure to participate, how his
actions deviated from the usual and accepted practice of the time.

This is the "everyone else does it" argument. Doesn't make it right.

scott

Scott Lurndal wrote:

I agree. For example, the piece mentioned, not for the first time,
Dubya's seeming ducking of his National Guard obligations. I have
yet to see, in the dozens of accounts I've read about this failure
to participate, how his actions deviated from the usual and accepted
practice of the time.

This is the "everyone else does it" argument. Doesn't make it right.


In many cases, yes it does. The Uniform Commercial Code recognizes that the
"usual and accepted practices" of an industry have the force of law. The
Bible says "Fair weights and measures you shall have" but "fair" depends on
the community [in one community a "container" may be "heaping" and in
another community it will be "level"].

Methinks you may be painting with too broad a brush when you condemn the
excuse in its entirety.

On Jul 26, 3:47*am, "Rod & BJ Jacobson" wrote:
"Jimbo" wrote in message

...
On Jul 24, 10:22 pm, "Max" wrote:

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pr...george-w-bush/

This is probably the most honest bio I've read about George W. *- a
spoiled brat who used and abused his father's position and money to
get himself into politics and high office. *Sounds like something a
lot of people have done but will never admit it.

Considering this was largely a propaganda piece with twisted selective
"facts" and heavy albeit sly editoralizing.......a honest bio is somewhere
beyond a reach. When things pretend to be a history they do all of us a
disservice......conclusions based on **** often simply result in more turds.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Rod

Some examples might improve the credibility of your contribution
Otherwise, it is, like you suggest the bio is, just propaganda. Broad
strokes will do.

I did notice that it is very heavily biased towards the early years
and then fades as time moves on. I suppose it was this that
interested me as I, not being an American, didn't know much about his
earlier life.