Does anyone have this DVD and is it as great a resource as Taunton Press
keeps pushing? Its expensive at 149.00 but looks like its full of great
info. My kids keep asking me what I want for Christmas and I tell them what
I need they can't afford and not to worry about it. This might be a good
alternative for them, at 75.00 each I wouldn't be breaking their bank!

Thanks
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This might be a good
alternative for them, at 75.00 each I wouldn't be breaking their bank!


I think it would be better than the $5 a month to have an online
account and have to search the website which only has some of the old
articles. I haven't seen the actual disk and how well it is organized
but in concept it seems like the way to go. The only real problem I
see is when 2011 comes around, it is another $149 just to get the last
years update. If they said $149 buy in and $20 a year to keep updated,
I would buy it now.

I had the same idea as a gift from my kids... but that means I have to
hand each of them $75 and that is why I am still on the fence.
Somebody elses money? Yep, I would ask for it.

Rich,

I have the Pop Woodworking DVDs (well not all of them, just a couple
of years).
I found that they are great, but I keep misplacing them. I have the
hard copies
- i.e. the magazines - in storage so I keep just pulling things out
from there.

I can read magazines everywhere, including the smallest room in the
house, if you
get by drift, and in bed before I nod off. DVDs don't do that.

I guess if you had a Kindle or iPad, you could get a e-copy of them.
That would
change things up a bit as to where you can read them.

If you already have a collection of Fine Woodworking, you probably
could pass
on the DVD. On the other hand, if you don't have the magazines and you
can't think of
spending $149 on some neat new tool (I can offer up some ideas), then
go ahead.

I'd wager, that you will probably only view it about 3 or 4 times a
year.

A better bet, to me that is even cheaper, is to sign up for Tauton's
paid access to
their website. ALL of the DVD content is on-line and it's great! I use
it about 10 or
so times a year and it's cheaper than the $149 for the DVD.

MJ

On 12/9/2010 1:26 PM, wrote:

A better bet, to me that is even cheaper, is to sign up for Tauton's
paid access to
their website. ALL of the DVD content is on-line and it's great! I use
it about 10 or
so times a year and it's cheaper than the $149 for the DVD.

Bingo! I do same for both FWW and FHB, can pick and choose what I want
or absolutely need at the time, and can access and read it any where I
can get a wifi/3G connection via laptop or smartphone, or download to same.

I see the value of having the data backed up on a hard disk for future
ease of access, but the fact that most of what's on the dvd is not what
I want or need at any given time makes that option not cost effective.

YMMV ...


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In article ,
Rich wrote:

Does anyone have this DVD and is it as great a resource as Taunton Press
keeps pushing? Its expensive at 149.00 but looks like its full of great
info. My kids keep asking me what I want for Christmas and I tell them what
I need they can't afford and not to worry about it. This might be a good
alternative for them, at 75.00 each I wouldn't be breaking their bank!


Unless they have changed what they offer in it, I ended up passing on
this when they started up with it because it does not have the complete
magazine (covers, etc) just the articles, and at the time was similar
cost to getting a set of the magazine back to issue 1 was (though I
didn't actually do that, and actually stopped subscribing a few years
later, though I have my shelf of FWWs - it's just not growing anymore.)

Plenty of decent, useful real tools or stock you could have them get at
or below that budget point, IMHO.

--
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A better bet, to me that is even cheaper, is to sign up for Tauton's
paid access to their website. ALL of the DVD content is on-line and it's great! I use
it about 10 or so times a year and it's cheaper than the $149 for the DVD.

And to boot, the online membership ($15/yr I think) also gets you
access to all the other magazines (Fine Cooking, Fine Gardening, &tc.)

-Zz

On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 11:26:00 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Rich,

I have the Pop Woodworking DVDs (well not all of them, just a couple
of years).
I found that they are great, but I keep misplacing them. I have the
hard copies
- i.e. the magazines - in storage so I keep just pulling things out
from there.

Why don't you get a larger hard drive and copy the DVDs to it right
after you find 'em, MJ?

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:06:00 -0500, Ecnerwal
wrote:

In article ,
Rich wrote:

Does anyone have this DVD and is it as great a resource as Taunton Press
keeps pushing? Its expensive at 149.00 but looks like its full of great
info. My kids keep asking me what I want for Christmas and I tell them what
I need they can't afford and not to worry about it. This might be a good
alternative for them, at 75.00 each I wouldn't be breaking their bank!

Unless they have changed what they offer in it, I ended up passing on
this when they started up with it because it does not have the complete
magazine (covers, etc) just the articles, and at the time was similar
cost to getting a set of the magazine back to issue 1 was (though I
didn't actually do that, and actually stopped subscribing a few years
later, though I have my shelf of FWWs - it's just not growing anymore.)

Plenty of decent, useful real tools or stock you could have them get at
or below that budget point, IMHO.

Since I've always made my own tools/jigs/etc., I would miss all the
ads they didn't put in the DVD version. Other mags do that and it's
great. It's fun to look back a decade or two and see how tools and
prices have changed, too. Taunton didn't save it. sigh

--
Invest in America: Buy a CONgresscritter today!

Why don't you get a larger hard drive and copy the DVDs to it right
after you find 'em, MJ?


Good idea. It's on the list of things to do, soon. I have some
spare external drives around that helps.

My computer is an iMac and it is not easy putting in a new drive. On
a Dell, I can do it almost blindfolded, but Apple buries the drive
under layers that have to be lifted carefully.

No need to fight the Mac/PC fight here. I use both and have
both. I just prefer my Macs for everyday.


MJ

wrote:
Why don't you get a larger hard drive and copy the DVDs to it right
after you find 'em, MJ?


Good idea. It's on the list of things to do, soon. I have some
spare external drives around that helps.

My computer is an iMac and it is not easy putting in a new drive. On
a Dell, I can do it almost blindfolded, but Apple buries the drive
under layers that have to be lifted carefully.

No need to fight the Mac/PC fight here. I use both and have
both. I just prefer my Macs for everyday.


MJ

use an external disk connected via usb or firewire. i have a cheap 2tb
external for backups and large storage. i've changed the dvd drive in my
imac and the disk is easier, but it took 2 of us 2 hours to change out the
dvd, and you need a bunch of specialized tools.

And to boot, the online membership ($15/yr I think) also gets you
access to all the other magazines (Fine Cooking, Fine Gardening, &tc.)

-Zz

$4.99 per month and their search is pretty flaky. I can never easily
find what I want. Just last week I was looking for an article from
July this year "the woodworkers guide to photography". I tried every
version of that exact statement and snippets of it and never found the
article. I finally searched on the july/august 2010 and found one
article from that month, then it had a link at the bottom of the page
to the photography articel. There is no TOC from past versions or any
good organization of the data.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:23:44 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:


Why don't you get a larger hard drive and copy the DVDs to it right
after you find 'em, MJ?


Good idea. It's on the list of things to do, soon. I have some
spare external drives around that helps.

My computer is an iMac and it is not easy putting in a new drive. On
a Dell, I can do it almost blindfolded, but Apple buries the drive
under layers that have to be lifted carefully.

No need to fight the Mac/PC fight here. I use both and have
both. I just prefer my Macs for everyday.

WHAT? I've only worked once with a Mac (ca 1997) and installed a
modem. I plugged it in and it found it without trouble. I thought
the OSes got better with age and version changes. Condolences.

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Invest in America: Buy a CONgresscritter today!

WHAT? *I've only worked once with a Mac (ca 1997) and installed a
modem. *I plugged it in and it found it without trouble. I *thought
the OSes got better with age and version changes. *Condolences.

Not an OS problem, hardware design. Apple never imagined, at
the time I bought this particular iMac, that users would want
to swap out the HD.

I have never, ever had a OS failure with ANY of my Macs going about
to the first one I owned in 1984.

MJ

chaniarts wrote:

wrote:
Why don't you get a larger hard drive and copy the DVDs to it right
after you find 'em, MJ?


Good idea. It's on the list of things to do, soon. I have some
spare external drives around that helps.

My computer is an iMac and it is not easy putting in a new drive. On
a Dell, I can do it almost blindfolded, but Apple buries the drive
under layers that have to be lifted carefully.

No need to fight the Mac/PC fight here. I use both and have
both. I just prefer my Macs for everyday.


MJ

use an external disk connected via usb or firewire. i have a cheap 2tb
external for backups and large storage. i've changed the dvd drive in my
imac and the disk is easier, but it took 2 of us 2 hours to change out the
dvd, and you need a bunch of specialized tools.

The older plastic cased Imacs are pretty easy to get into. A Spud Wrench
which is not a wrench at all and a special torx wrench is all you need.
$5.00 at a good electronics store. Ive taken apart my share of Imac because
of their bad designed charger plug....Here's a good resource for opening an
Imac... I haven't tried to open one of the newer metal cased Imacs, but I'm
sure it can be done without to much trouble.

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/I...h-1-42-GHz-DC-
In-Board/726/1

http://tiny.cc/sxs5o

I would do what was suggested earlier and get an external USB hard drive.

But I will stick with my Linux OS for everyday use and have an Imac to fall
back on when I really need an alternative.
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but you can't make them THINK"

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On 2010-12-10 17:48:37 -0500, Larry Jaques
said:

WHAT? I've only worked once with a Mac (ca 1997) and installed a
modem. I plugged it in and it found it without trouble. I thought
the OSes got better with age and version changes. Condolences.

It's not a system or plug-and-play issue; it's the physical design of
the computer. The iMac is really designed to meet the needs of a
specific market segment: the user who just wants a computer and doesn't
care or need much (if any) extensibilty. Memory upgrades (IIRC) are
fairly painless once you crack the case*; there just isn't any space
designed into the unit for another drive bay. If you need more drive
space, is simple enough to add a external drive or four.

If you need that kind of extensibilty, you buy a Mac Pro. That case is
designed to accept four hard drives and two optical drives. The drive
carriers are included. You can buy bare drives (no extra ribbon cables
needed...). BFD -- that'll save a buck or two right there. Accepts up
to 32 gigs** of memory, too, last I checked.

*Speaking of "cracking the case," that takes us back to the days of the
original Mac, Mac Plus, and Fat Mac, when a Torx fastener was a real
rarity and you also needed a special tool to separate the case
halves... history repeats itself in the iPods. The batteries ARE
replacable, but it's a real bitch to do. Of course, in comparison to
the early Macs, iPods are commodity electronics: easy and cheap to
replace.

**My first Mac was tricked out with a whole 2 MEGS of memory, and a
whopping big 50 Meg drive!

How is a spud wrench not a wrench? The one in my tool box looks like a
wrench and acts like a wrench.



"Rich" wrote in message
...

A Spud Wrench
which is not a wrench at all

CW wrote:

How is a spud wrench not a wrench? The one in my tool box looks like a
wrench and acts like a wrench.



"Rich" wrote in message
...

A Spud Wrench
which is not a wrench at all
In this instance its a prying tool to split the case of a laptop. Guess its
a Spudder Tool and not a spud wrench. Believe me I know what a spud wrench
is when it comes to plumbing.
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but you can't make them THINK"

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In article ,
says...

CW wrote:

How is a spud wrench not a wrench? The one in my tool box looks like a
wrench and acts like a wrench.



"Rich" wrote in message
...

A Spud Wrench
which is not a wrench at all
In this instance its a prying tool to split the case of a laptop. Guess its
a Spudder Tool and not a spud wrench. Believe me I know what a spud wrench
is when it comes to plumbing.

Are you talking about a _spudger_? Which is intended to be used in
dealing with tightly packed wiring in punchblocks but which is also used
in electronics for many other purposes, such as splitting the cases of
laptops?

J. Clarke wrote:

In article ,
says...

CW wrote:

How is a spud wrench not a wrench? The one in my tool box looks like a
wrench and acts like a wrench.



"Rich" wrote in message
...

A Spud Wrench
which is not a wrench at all
In this instance its a prying tool to split the case of a laptop. Guess
its a Spudder Tool and not a spud wrench. Believe me I know what a spud
wrench is when it comes to plumbing.

Are you talking about a _spudger_? Which is intended to be used in
dealing with tightly packed wiring in punchblocks but which is also used
in electronics for many other purposes, such as splitting the cases of
laptops?
yes, I have to apologize for my misuse of the word. You are right its a
spudger not spud or spuder. Thanks for clearing that up.
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but you can't make them THINK"

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