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Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court
of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Lew |
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On Nov 24, 11:23*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Lew That scumbag won't do time. |
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On 11/24/2010 09:23 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Lew Takes decades to unmask the scumbags: http://politics.usnews.com/news/articles/2010/11/24/a-lonely-guilty-verdict-for-charlie-rangel.html |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message b.com... Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Lew He will have a sore hand after it is slapped. ww |
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On Nov 24, 11:04*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Nov 24, 11:23*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Lew That scumbag won't do time. I disagree. This was a *felony* conviction. He'll appeal, as he has the right to do, but from what coverage I've seen in Austin and DFW newspapers, he doesn't stand much chance of success. |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
b.com... Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Lew He's not in jail yet. -- If your name is No, I voted for you - more than once ... |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:23:04 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote: Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/0...cs-violations/ http://nlpc.org/stories/2010/08/02/r...ouse-committee And that's only two -recent- democrats. It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? -- Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills. -- Minna Thomas Antrim |
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On Nov 25, 9:29*am, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:23:04 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/0...arged-ethics-v... And that's only two -recent- democrats. It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? -- Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Minna Thomas Antrim Corruption and greed know no partisan affiliations. Neither does stupidity. |
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:29:17 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? Ah yes I want term limits, and an added retirement bit at a federal prison all expenses paid from any politcal contributions left over. Mark |
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Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine.
The actual quote reads: "The wheels of the Gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine". Good adaptation though. -Zz |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
b.com... Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Lew Texas has produced it's share of despicable politicians but Delay wins the prize. Max |
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On 11/25/2010 9:07 AM, Markem wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:29:17 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? Ah yes I want term limits, and an added retirement bit at a federal prison all expenses paid from any politcal contributions left over. Mark And I want "None Of The Above" as a choice on every ballot. |
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On 11/25/2010 9:14 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. The actual quote reads: "The wheels of the Gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine". Good adaptation though. -Zz They also often grind exceedingly dumb. |
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:05:50 -0700, "Max"
wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message eb.com... Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Texas has produced it's share of despicable politicians but Delay wins the prize. The idiot gets an "A" in Irony with the last sentence in this most quotable of statements: "This is an abuse of power. It's a miscarriage of justice, and I still maintain that I am innocent. The criminalization of politics undermines our very system and I'm very disappointed in the outcome." Gall, wot? -- Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills. -- Minna Thomas Antrim |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:05:50 -0700, "Max" wrote: "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message web.com... Tom "The Hammer" Delay was finally found guilty today in a Texas court of law today of money laundering ($190K) committed in 2002. Sometimes the wheels of justice grind slow, but they also grind fine. Texas has produced it's share of despicable politicians but Delay wins the prize. The idiot gets an "A" in Irony with the last sentence in this most quotable of statements: "This is an abuse of power. It's a miscarriage of justice, and I still maintain that I am innocent. The criminalization of politics undermines our very system and I'm very disappointed in the outcome." Gall, wot? Hey, didn't Caesar say "All Gall is divided into three parts: I, me and mine are always right"? If Delay gets hammertime behind the new perspective of bars is anyone taking odds on his repentant apology to the people whom elected him to an office of public trust? Regards, EH |
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"Just Wondering" wrote in message
... On 11/25/2010 9:07 AM, Markem wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:29:17 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? Ah yes I want term limits, and an added retirement bit at a federal prison all expenses paid from any politcal contributions left over. Mark And I want "None Of The Above" as a choice on every ballot. And 50+% of the total number of voters to win. None of this 47 to 33 and some leftovers and 47 wins. -- If your name is No, I voted for you - more than once ... |
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote in news:icnaua$7u5$1
@news.eternal-september.org: And 50+% of the total number of voters to win. None of this 47 to 33 and some leftovers and 47 wins. How about needing more than 1/3 of the total number of eligible voters? -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message ... "Just Wondering" wrote in message ... On 11/25/2010 9:07 AM, Markem wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:29:17 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? Ah yes I want term limits, and an added retirement bit at a federal prison all expenses paid from any politcal contributions left over. Mark And I want "None Of The Above" as a choice on every ballot. And 50+% of the total number of voters to win. None of this 47 to 33 and some leftovers and 47 wins. I think +50% of "Eligible" voters to win. If not enough voters show up the election is not counted and the person in office steps aside. |
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"Han" wrote in message ... "Lobby Dosser" wrote in news:icnaua$7u5$1 @news.eternal-september.org: And 50+% of the total number of voters to win. None of this 47 to 33 and some leftovers and 47 wins. How about needing more than 1/3 of the total number of eligible voters? -- Best regards Han email address is invalid Totally agree but I would like to see 50%. Seems the candidates don't recognise the fact that no shows are actually saying "no" to all involved. But then the politicians don't want that fact to come out in the open. |
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:40:30 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:
"This is an abuse of power. It's a miscarriage of justice, and I still maintain that I am innocent. The criminalization of politics undermines our very system and I'm very disappointed in the outcome." Gall, wot? I especially liked "criminalization of politics" :-). -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:16:37 -0600, "Leon" wrote:
"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message ... "Just Wondering" wrote in message ... On 11/25/2010 9:07 AM, Markem wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:29:17 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? Ah yes I want term limits, and an added retirement bit at a federal prison all expenses paid from any politcal contributions left over. Mark And I want "None Of The Above" as a choice on every ballot. And 50+% of the total number of voters to win. None of this 47 to 33 and some leftovers and 47 wins. I think +50% of "Eligible" voters to win. If not enough voters show up the election is not counted and the person in office steps aside. Who, do you propose, would fill his place? |
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wrote in message ... Who, do you propose, would fill his place? Simple answer, the person that is doing all the work now. The people that are actually making things work despite the elected officials desires. Except now he makes the decisions of what needs to be done instead of carrying out orders form a politician. He does so until some one is elected. I don't have all the answers and there are probably better solutions but the system is compromised and will never work for the people as a whole. |
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Silly argument.
OK next time I will flip a coin and vote for the horse's ass that it falls on. I can still bitch because the idiot system allows the BS to still happen no matter who I vote for. I played their game and voted religiously (there's the problem) for 35 years and it got me jerks that I voted for and jerks that I opposed. They have no responsibilty once they get voted in and they have no knowledge of affairs (except Clinton) before they get voted in. Vote "No" and follow your own advise. BTW: I don't vote in your country anyway so you are safe from my vote cancelling yours and a few others...LOL "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message b.com... Sitting back on ones hands and not participating in the voting process is not a viable option. IMHO, if you don't vote, don't bitch should apply. As the old saying goes, "There ain't no free lunch", especially when it comes to voting. Off the box. Lew |
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Well said.
If you never apply the stain you can't bitch about the colour (ooops. color) "Leon" wrote in message ... Do you actually think that voting for the lessor of two evils is better than not voting at all? You have 3 choices, play the game you cannot win, play the game and loose, or don't play the game. IMHO voting for some you you don't believe in sends the wrong message. IMHO, if you don't vote, don't bitch should apply. I think just the opposite, you vote, you don't bitch. Goes with the adage, you made your bed, now lay in it. |
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Why can't every issue have a referendum online. It can be done but somebody
wants to have the glory. "Leon" wrote in message ... Simple answer, the person that is doing all the work now. The people that are actually making things work despite the elected officials desires. Except now he makes the decisions of what needs to be done instead of carrying out orders form a politician. He does so until some one is elected. I don't have all the answers and there are probably better solutions but the system is compromised and will never work for the people as a whole. |
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On 11/26/10 1:39 PM, Josepi wrote:
Silly argument. OK next time I will flip a coin and vote for the horse's ass that it falls on. I can still bitch because the idiot system allows the BS to still happen no matter who I vote for. I played their game and voted religiously (there's the problem) for 35 years and it got me jerks that I voted for and jerks that I opposed. They have no responsibilty once they get voted in and they have no knowledge of affairs (except Clinton) before they get voted in. I voted for Rob Ford for Mayor, and little brother Doug for counselor. They are both honest and good fiscal conservatives with real business experience, not to mention real nice people. Not sure where you are in Canada, but there is change coming here, I'll bet my boots on it. -- Froz... The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance. |
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:11:00 -0600, "Leon" wrote:
wrote in message .. . Who, do you propose, would fill his place? Simple answer, the person that is doing all the work now. The people that are actually making things work despite the elected officials desires. Except now he makes the decisions of what needs to be done instead of carrying out orders form a politician. He does so until some one is elected. So you want a lifetime bureaucrat making the laws as well as enforcing them? Silly. I don't have all the answers and there are probably better solutions but the system is compromised and will never work for the people as a whole. The system of voting is not what's broken. ....and forcing people to do *anything* is NOT a solution. If they're too lazy to vote, personally, I don't want them to. ...and "early voting" just simplifies fraud. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/0...cs-violations/ http://nlpc.org/stories/2010/08/02/r...ouse-committee And that's only two -recent- democrats. It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? When it comes to corruption I don't see any difference between the parties. Whoever controls the committees that spend the money is targeted by special interests. So when the Dems controlled those committees for many long years, they got the bulk of indictments and convictions for corruption. When the Repubs controlled Congress it was their turn, can anyone say "Abramoff"? But in the cases you cite above please note there are no criminal charges involved. I don't doubt Rangel and Waters are bent, but they aren't in danger of being convicted of felonies, those are House ethics rules violations. DeLay, on the other hand, is now a convicted felon facing prison time--that's a significant difference. If we cast a wider net there is no problem finding Dem members of Congress convicted of felonies--Wm. Jefferson comes to mind--but the cases you mention don't qualify. |
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Josepi wrote: ...snipped... You have 3 choices, play the game you cannot win, play the game and loose, or don't play the game. I'm wondering, what is the difference between the 1st & 2nd choice there? -- Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. (Albert Einstein) Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
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In article ,
Josepi wrote: Why can't every issue have a referendum online. It can be done but somebody wants to have the glory. We might very well still have slavery in this country had a similar system been implemented instead of our republic. One of the most important reasons that our constitution has a bill of rights and created a representative form of government was to prevent (I believe de Tocqueville's phrase) a "tyranny of the majority." -- Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. (Albert Einstein) Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:40:30 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: "This is an abuse of power. It's a miscarriage of justice, and I still maintain that I am innocent. The criminalization of politics undermines our very system and I'm very disappointed in the outcome." Gall, wot? I especially liked "criminalization of politics" :-). I like castration of politicians better |
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"Leon" wrote in message .. .. Do you actually think that voting for the lessor of two evils is better than not voting at all? Yes. It's called damage control. Say you have a fire in your kitchen. Do you: A) Say "oh well, the damage is done so there is no need to put it out". B) Put the fire out knowing that the kitchen has sustained damage but at least you can save the rest of the house. There is a difference between having a reason and having and excuse. There are many reasons for not voting but very few excuses. If you can honestly say that you are incapable of making an informed, intelligent decision, that is an excuse. "I don't like either of them" is a reason, not an excuse. |
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In article , lcb11211
@swbell.dotnet says... wrote in message ... Who, do you propose, would fill his place? Simple answer, the person that is doing all the work now. The people that are actually making things work despite the elected officials desires. Except now he makes the decisions of what needs to be done instead of carrying out orders form a politician. He does so until some one is elected. I don't have all the answers and there are probably better solutions but the system is compromised and will never work for the people as a whole. A big problem with the current system is that nobody alive today had any real say in its creation, we inherited it and nobody ever asked us if we were cool with continuing it. |
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:19:21 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:40:30 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: "This is an abuse of power. It's a miscarriage of justice, and I still maintain that I am innocent. The criminalization of politics undermines our very system and I'm very disappointed in the outcome." Gall, wot? I especially liked "criminalization of politics" :-). Yeah, AS IF! -- Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences. It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is happening around him, for to live life well one must live life with awareness. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:40:33 -0800, "DGDevin"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/0...cs-violations/ http://nlpc.org/stories/2010/08/02/r...ouse-committee And that's only two -recent- democrats. It would appear that -all- our elected officials all wanton criminals, wouldn't it? When it comes to corruption I don't see any difference between the parties. Whoever controls the committees that spend the money is targeted by special interests. So when the Dems controlled those committees for many long years, they got the bulk of indictments and convictions for corruption. When the Repubs controlled Congress it was their turn, can anyone say "Abramoff"? But in the cases you cite above please note there are no criminal charges involved. I don't doubt Rangel and Waters are bent, but they aren't in danger of being convicted of felonies, those are House ethics rules violations. DeLay, on the other hand, is now a convicted felon facing prison time--that's a significant difference. If we cast a wider net there is no problem finding Dem members of Congress convicted of felonies--Wm. Jefferson comes to mind--but the cases you mention don't qualify. True. I forget how the meaning of "indictment" can vary so widely. AFAIC, all politicians are scum and are criminal elements. -- Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences. It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is happening around him, for to live life well one must live life with awareness. -- Louis L'Amour |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in
in.local: A big problem with the current system is that nobody alive today had any real say in its creation, we inherited it and nobody ever asked us if we were cool with continuing it. There are many problems wiith the current system, the biggest (IMNSHO) is the amount of money, much of it unaccounted for, that is involved. Elected persons should be accountable for performing for the best interests of the people (broad classification). The next biggest is (again IMNSHO) that candidates nowadays have to aim for the lowest common denominator, ie the most people who don't object. There is little if any room for the consideration of more than 2 viewpoints. Any 3rd of more viewpoint is immediately a "spoiler" for one or the other. That being said, the current system is constantly being revised (redistricting), and the elcting systems for at least US Senate and President has definitely changed (at least administratively). -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 11/26/2010 5:16 PM, Han wrote:
That being said, the current system is constantly being revised (redistricting), and the elcting systems for at least US Senate and President has definitely changed (at least administratively). Do not expect rational processes from an essentially dumbed down, ignorant electorate. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Larry W" wrote in message ... In article , Josepi wrote: ...snipped... You have 3 choices, play the game you cannot win, play the game and loose, or don't play the game. I'm wondering, what is the difference between the 1st & 2nd choice there? You see the point! Voting for either is a loosing proposition if you don't like either candidate. |
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"CW" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message .. . Do you actually think that voting for the lessor of two evils is better than not voting at all? Yes. It's called damage control. Say you have a fire in your kitchen. Do you: A) Say "oh well, the damage is done so there is no need to put it out". B) Put the fire out knowing that the kitchen has sustained damage but at least you can save the rest of the house. There is a difference between having a reason and having and excuse. There are many reasons for not voting but very few excuses. If you can honestly say that you are incapable of making an informed, intelligent decision, that is an excuse. "I don't like either of them" is a reason, not an excuse. This is assuming that the candidate and his short comings is as obvious as whether to put out a fire or not. Candidates are not as predictable as a fire. The trouble with voting for damage control is that the winner thinks you actually wanted him to win because of his policy, not because you wanted the other guy to not win. |
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