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Chisels? Two Cherries?
Folks,
I DAGS and noticed a lot of you have purchased Two Cherries chisels. Do you still like them? I'm wanting to replace my Blue Chips with something that holds and edge longer, and $50 each for Sorby's is a bit tough for me to bite. Any other recommendations? Barry |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
I was steered to them by the FWW article that rated their steel very high. I
have a vendor in NYC that sells them so I checked them out. I've had mine for over a year now and I like them very much. I switched to them from Marples Blue handles also. Bernie "B a r r y" wrote in message ... Folks, I DAGS and noticed a lot of you have purchased Two Cherries chisels. Do you still like them? I'm wanting to replace my Blue Chips with something that holds and edge longer, and $50 each for Sorby's is a bit tough for me to bite. Any other recommendations? Barry |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
I like mine. They seem to keep their edge pretty well. My only complaint
is I got so used to the heavier Blue Chips, that these seem a bit light in comparison. Cheers, cc "B a r r y" wrote in message ... Folks, I DAGS and noticed a lot of you have purchased Two Cherries chisels. Do you still like them? I'm wanting to replace my Blue Chips with something that holds and edge longer, and $50 each for Sorby's is a bit tough for me to bite. Any other recommendations? Barry |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
They're a great tool. Hold an edge well, not much work to lap the back of
them. Only grief is the round handles (they'll roll around), but was a quick fix. Cheers, aw |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
"A Dubya" writes:
They're a great tool. Hold an edge well, not much work to lap the back of them. Only grief is the round handles (they'll roll around), but was a You can get them also with octagonal handles. BTW, they make (including carving chisels) about 1000 different ones... -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
"B a r r y" wrote in message ... Folks, I DAGS and noticed a lot of you have purchased Two Cherries chisels. Do you still like them? I'm wanting to replace my Blue Chips with something that holds and edge longer, and $50 each for Sorby's is a bit tough for me to bite. Any other recommendations? Barry Hirsch - same factory, different label (and handle) - much lower price... Cheers - Rob (who HAS a vested interest...) |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
....didn't know that. When the day comes to replace one, that's what I'll be
looking for. Thanks. Cheers, aw |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
B a r r y,
W h i c h e v e r y o u g o w i t h . C o n s i d e r s t r i p p i n g t h e s l i p p e r y l a c q u e r a n d r e c o a t i n g w i t h s h e l l a c . M u c h e a s i e r o n t h e h a n d s . O ' D e e n |
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Chisels? Two Cherries?
"B a r r y" wrote in message On 31 Mar 2004 14:41:01 -0800, (Patrick Olguin) wrote: B a r r y, W h i c h e v e r y o u g o w i t h . C o n s i d e r s t r i p p i n g t h e s l i p p e r y l a c q u e r a n d r e c o a t i n g w i t h s h e l l a c . M u c h e a s i e r o n t h e h a n d s . O ' D e e n T H A N K S ! I ' m l o o k i n g f o r w a r d t o h o l d i n g w o o d e n h a n d l e s i n s t e a d o f p l a s t i c. Barry L o l . D a m n y o u g u y s a r e f u n n y ! ( T h i s i s h a r d e r t h a n i t l o o k s ... and it cornfused the hell outts the speil checker) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 3/27/04 |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:51:10 -0500, "Robin Lee"
brought forth from the murky depths: Hirsch - same factory, different label (and handle) - much lower price... Rob (who HAS a vested interest...) I didn't think people WORE those any more, Rob. Speaking of which (No, not vests, chisels/gouges.) how are your palm tools? 57D06.01 My taste runs toward Pfeil (when discounted). --- In Christianity, neither morality nor religion comes into contact with reality at any point. --FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE --------------------------------------------------------------- - http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development - |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:51:10 -0500, "Robin Lee"
wrote: Rob (who HAS a vested interest...) Aren't you that guy who works fer Harbor Freight? G If you check your order system, I'll bet you can guess who _I_ am. Barry |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:51:10 -0500, "Robin Lee" brought forth from the murky depths: Hirsch - same factory, different label (and handle) - much lower price... Rob (who HAS a vested interest...) I didn't think people WORE those any more, Rob. Speaking of which (No, not vests, chisels/gouges.) how are your palm tools? 57D06.01 My taste runs toward Pfeil (when discounted). snip Larry - The set you mention are good tools, made in USA... The Pfeil set is better quality though - as is indicated by the price difference... Hard to advise which is best for you - both are worth the money! Cheers - Rob |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
"B a r r y" wrote in message ... On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:51:10 -0500, "Robin Lee" wrote: Rob (who HAS a vested interest...) Aren't you that guy who works fer Harbor Freight? G If you check your order system, I'll bet you can guess who _I_ am. Barry Possibly - if your address has the digits 1,3,4, in it ...then thanks for the order - it's leaving today!!! Cheers - Rob |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
Small Gloat,
bought a boxed set of six last week on ebay, like new never used $92.00 including shipping Big T "Bernie Hunt" wrote in message . net... I was steered to them by the FWW article that rated their steel very high. I have a vendor in NYC that sells them so I checked them out. I've had mine for over a year now and I like them very much. I switched to them from Marples Blue handles also. Bernie "B a r r y" wrote in message ... Folks, I DAGS and noticed a lot of you have purchased Two Cherries chisels. Do you still like them? I'm wanting to replace my Blue Chips with something that holds and edge longer, and $50 each for Sorby's is a bit tough for me to bite. Any other recommendations? Barry |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:42:47 -0500, "Robin Lee"
brought forth from the murky depths: Larry - The set you mention are good tools, made in USA... I'll give the 57D06.01 set a try. Now, what else can I order while my (short) crowbar is out...? The Pfeil set is better quality though - as is indicated by the price difference... I'll buy the individual Pfeils and try your set. My shoulders want me to work less overhead nowadays. --- In Christianity, neither morality nor religion comes into contact with reality at any point. --FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE --------------------------------------------------------------- - http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development - |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
Larry Jaques writes:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:51:10 -0500, "Robin Lee" brought forth from the murky depths: Hirsch - same factory, different label (and handle) - much lower price... Rob (who HAS a vested interest...) I didn't think people WORE those any more, Rob. Our british cousins do. (What we call a t-shirt, they call a vest, IIRC). scott |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
B a r r y wrote:
Folks, I DAGS and noticed a lot of you have purchased Two Cherries chisels. Do you still like them? I'm wanting to replace my Blue Chips with something that holds and edge longer, and $50 each for Sorby's is a bit tough for me to bite. Any other recommendations? Barry It's funny how we seem to view "foreiegn" tools as being better than local tools. In the USA chisels from Buck, Sears and the like are readily available and relatively cheap. Japanese, German, Austrian and Swiss however go for a more premium price and we seem to be willing to pay that premium price because "they must be better, they'r made in (fill in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan). While in Munich I made a run up to Dick's Fine Tools, in Metten, about 100 Km from Munich. Went specifically to get some of them "foreign" chisels" - specifically Two Cherries. Alas, he'd gotten heavy into Japanese gardening and he was only carrying Japanese woodworking tools. Bummer. Using my son, who spent a year in Germany ans speaks German, I asked if there was any place within a hundred kilometers that carried Two Cherries chisels. Was sent down the road to the local hardware/garden center store - a scaled back German version of our Borg. With my son asking, I soon found myself standing in front of a peg board full of Two Cherries chisels, each with a plastic end cap that had a loop for hanging from a peg board peg. They went from 2 mm up to maybe 36 mm, in 2 mm increments. Got the 18, 16, 14, 12, 10 and 8 mm for about $95 US. No locked glass case with special lighting, no hermetically controlled environment - they were just chisels hung on per board. No fancy box, no hand stitched leather roll - just chisels - with plastic end caps and a loop to hang them from. I looked for the locked glass case with the Buck Bros. and Sears chisels but there wasn't one. I made a finger jointed rack to hold the TCs and they're sitting in one of the doors of one of my wall hanging tool cabinets. They're well finished and very shiny. But it's been about three years since they went in their rack and I still haven't gotten around to actually using them. I use the Marples Blue Chips and the Bucks regularly and the butt chisels which I think are by Sorby sometimes. But the Zweis Kirchen (I think that's Two Cherries in German) chisels are being reserved for "house furniture" - if and when I ever get to building any of that stuff. On a related note, found a little cutlery shop in Austria, well off the beaten tourist trails, that carried Stubai carving chisels. The founder's great grand daughter helped me, brining out card board boxes of Stubai carving chisels and a separate box of octagonal handles. She knew her carving chisels, and, with her help over an hour or so, put together a selection for carving small stuff. Dropped close to $200 US but left with another fond memory of doing business with a place that had been there for over a hundred years and still a family run business. Now try and remember a store you've been to that has been in the same place for over 50 years. Then try and remember a business you've dealt with that was third generation, let alone fourth generation. Cheapest seldom means "best", or even "adequate". And "cheapest" is seldom sold by interesting people with a lot of knowledge about what they sell. I prefer 12 year old scotch - and "mom and pop stores". Unfortunately, while 12 year old scotch is easy to find, "mom and pop stores" are getting harder and harder to find. Sad. charlie b |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:45:37 -0800, charlie b
wrote: It's funny how we seem to view "foreiegn" tools as being better than local tools. In the USA chisels from Buck, Sears and the like are readily available and relatively cheap. Japanese, German, Austrian and Swiss however go for a more premium price and we seem to be willing to pay that premium price because "they must be better, they'r made in (fill in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan). Huh? G Current Buck Bros. and Sears chisels flat out suck for fine woodworking. I own some of them. My Marples Blue Chips are OK, but I prefer chiseling to resharpening. I've _actually used_ Two Cherries, Sorby, various Japanese, and some American made "Warranted steel" antique chisels that are far better tools than Buck or Sears, which is the real reason why they cost more. I've never even bothered to check where they were made. Check those glass cases for LN planes next time. When the USA makes a superior product, the rest of the world will pay the same premiums that we pay for imported goods. Barry |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
FWW #139 pp. 52-57 (December 1999) has a lab test on some bench
chisels, and they tested the Hirsch chisels with an octagonal handle. The octagonal-handled Hirshs rated better than the Two Cherries for toughness (a before/after edge retension measurement), and ranked right after the Japanese laminated-style chisels. The Marples blue chip were second-last. The article also states that the Hirsch and Two Cherries are manufactured in the same factory. I'd love to get a set of the Hirsh chisels from LV, but SWMBO would kill me... - Daniel (who hasn't built a single significant piece of furniture yet) "Robin Lee" wrote in message m... Hirsch - same factory, different label (and handle) - much lower price... Cheers - Rob (who HAS a vested interest...) |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:45:37 -0800, charlie b
brought forth from the murky depths: It's funny how we seem to view "foreiegn" tools as being better than local tools. In the USA chisels from Buck, Sears and the like are readily available and relatively cheap. Japanese, German, Austrian and Swiss however go for a more premium price and we seem to be willing to pay that premium price because "they must be better, they'r made in (fill in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan). If someone offered me one or a truckload of new Buck or Searz tools, I'd run away. I'd take a single Pfeil gouge over a complete set of Searz. I looked for the locked glass case with the Buck Bros. and Sears chisels but there wasn't one. Them Germans is smart, them is. ;) On a related note, found a little cutlery shop in Austria, well off the beaten tourist trails, that carried Stubai carving chisels. The founder's great grand daughter helped me, brining out card board boxes of Stubai carving chisels and a separate box of octagonal handles. She knew her carving chisels, and, with her help over an hour or so, put together a selection for carving small stuff. Dropped close to $200 US but left with another fond memory of doing business with a place that had been there for over a hundred years and still a family run business. That sounds wonderful and I'm jealous. I ordered the LV palm chisel set so I don't feel too bad about it. They're US-made, y'know. (I just found that out today.) I have only one Henry Taylor chisel and it is too brittle for my tastes. The old, old Bucks are great, and Pfeil (which I do own) and Stubai (which I don't yet own) feel great, too. I've seen the Ashley Isles gouges in the Rockler store in Sandy Eggo and they looked nice but I haven't tried them. I'm happy with most of my Marples gouges and Blue Chip chisels. And the urethane mallet is stories above the wooden mallets. My wrists like it much better, as they do the little bronze mallet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Scattered Showers My Ass! * Insightful Advertising Copy * --Noah * http://www.diversify.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
You could try the new lie nielsen A2 tool steel chisels. I don't think
they're even on the website yet but they've been offered for $200 for a set of five ranging from 1/8" to 3/4". Haven't seen anything on what the larger sizes will cost but I bet it will be a lot. "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:45:37 -0800, charlie b brought forth from the murky depths: It's funny how we seem to view "foreiegn" tools as being better than local tools. In the USA chisels from Buck, Sears and the like are readily available and relatively cheap. Japanese, German, Austrian and Swiss however go for a more premium price and we seem to be willing to pay that premium price because "they must be better, they'r made in (fill in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan). If someone offered me one or a truckload of new Buck or Searz tools, I'd run away. I'd take a single Pfeil gouge over a complete set of Searz. I looked for the locked glass case with the Buck Bros. and Sears chisels but there wasn't one. Them Germans is smart, them is. ;) On a related note, found a little cutlery shop in Austria, well off the beaten tourist trails, that carried Stubai carving chisels. The founder's great grand daughter helped me, brining out card board boxes of Stubai carving chisels and a separate box of octagonal handles. She knew her carving chisels, and, with her help over an hour or so, put together a selection for carving small stuff. Dropped close to $200 US but left with another fond memory of doing business with a place that had been there for over a hundred years and still a family run business. That sounds wonderful and I'm jealous. I ordered the LV palm chisel set so I don't feel too bad about it. They're US-made, y'know. (I just found that out today.) I have only one Henry Taylor chisel and it is too brittle for my tastes. The old, old Bucks are great, and Pfeil (which I do own) and Stubai (which I don't yet own) feel great, too. I've seen the Ashley Isles gouges in the Rockler store in Sandy Eggo and they looked nice but I haven't tried them. I'm happy with most of my Marples gouges and Blue Chip chisels. And the urethane mallet is stories above the wooden mallets. My wrists like it much better, as they do the little bronze mallet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Scattered Showers My Ass! * Insightful Advertising Copy * --Noah * http://www.diversify.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
Got mine last week. Great chisels. The only bad part is last week end
I was reminded of my dislike for round handles. Why did LN put round handles on an otherwise superb tool? RB Damned if i know wrote: You could try the new lie nielsen A2 tool steel chisels. I don't think they're even on the website yet but they've been offered for $200 for a set of five ranging from 1/8" to 3/4". Haven't seen anything on what the larger sizes will cost but I bet it will be a lot. "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:45:37 -0800, charlie b brought forth from the murky depths: It's funny how we seem to view "foreiegn" tools as being better than local tools. In the USA chisels from Buck, Sears and the like are readily available and relatively cheap. Japanese, German, Austrian and Swiss however go for a more premium price and we seem to be willing to pay that premium price because "they must be better, they'r made in (fill in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan). If someone offered me one or a truckload of new Buck or Searz tools, I'd run away. I'd take a single Pfeil gouge over a complete set of Searz. I looked for the locked glass case with the Buck Bros. and Sears chisels but there wasn't one. Them Germans is smart, them is. ;) On a related note, found a little cutlery shop in Austria, well off the beaten tourist trails, that carried Stubai carving chisels. The founder's great grand daughter helped me, brining out card board boxes of Stubai carving chisels and a separate box of octagonal handles. She knew her carving chisels, and, with her help over an hour or so, put together a selection for carving small stuff. Dropped close to $200 US but left with another fond memory of doing business with a place that had been there for over a hundred years and still a family run business. That sounds wonderful and I'm jealous. I ordered the LV palm chisel set so I don't feel too bad about it. They're US-made, y'know. (I just found that out today.) I have only one Henry Taylor chisel and it is too brittle for my tastes. The old, old Bucks are great, and Pfeil (which I do own) and Stubai (which I don't yet own) feel great, too. I've seen the Ashley Isles gouges in the Rockler store in Sandy Eggo and they looked nice but I haven't tried them. I'm happy with most of my Marples gouges and Blue Chip chisels. And the urethane mallet is stories above the wooden mallets. My wrists like it much better, as they do the little bronze mallet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Scattered Showers My Ass! * Insightful Advertising Copy * --Noah * http://www.diversify.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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I stand corrected the link is http://www.lie-nielsen.com/chisel.html and
they cost $250 "Damned if i know" wrote in message news:NJ6bc.9415$Pk3.7528@pd7tw1no... You could try the new lie nielsen A2 tool steel chisels. I don't think they're even on the website yet but they've been offered for $200 for a set of five ranging from 1/8" to 3/4". Haven't seen anything on what the larger sizes will cost but I bet it will be a lot. "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:45:37 -0800, charlie b brought forth from the murky depths: It's funny how we seem to view "foreiegn" tools as being better than local tools. In the USA chisels from Buck, Sears and the like are readily available and relatively cheap. Japanese, German, Austrian and Swiss however go for a more premium price and we seem to be willing to pay that premium price because "they must be better, they'r made in (fill in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan). If someone offered me one or a truckload of new Buck or Searz tools, I'd run away. I'd take a single Pfeil gouge over a complete set of Searz. I looked for the locked glass case with the Buck Bros. and Sears chisels but there wasn't one. Them Germans is smart, them is. ;) On a related note, found a little cutlery shop in Austria, well off the beaten tourist trails, that carried Stubai carving chisels. The founder's great grand daughter helped me, brining out card board boxes of Stubai carving chisels and a separate box of octagonal handles. She knew her carving chisels, and, with her help over an hour or so, put together a selection for carving small stuff. Dropped close to $200 US but left with another fond memory of doing business with a place that had been there for over a hundred years and still a family run business. That sounds wonderful and I'm jealous. I ordered the LV palm chisel set so I don't feel too bad about it. They're US-made, y'know. (I just found that out today.) I have only one Henry Taylor chisel and it is too brittle for my tastes. The old, old Bucks are great, and Pfeil (which I do own) and Stubai (which I don't yet own) feel great, too. I've seen the Ashley Isles gouges in the Rockler store in Sandy Eggo and they looked nice but I haven't tried them. I'm happy with most of my Marples gouges and Blue Chip chisels. And the urethane mallet is stories above the wooden mallets. My wrists like it much better, as they do the little bronze mallet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Scattered Showers My Ass! * Insightful Advertising Copy * --Noah * http://www.diversify.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
charlie b writes:
B a r r y wrote: [...] Marples Blue Chips and the Bucks regularly and the butt chisels which I think are by Sorby sometimes. But the Zweis Kirchen (I think that's Two Cherries in German) chisels are being reserved for "house In German they are just called "Kirschen" (Kirchen would be churches), the "Two" (wich would be "zwei") is silently dropped. [...] while 12 year old scotch is easy to find, "mom and pop stores" are getting harder and harder to find. Sad. Full Ack. -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 |
Chisels? Two Cherries?
B a r r y wrote in message . ..
Folks, I DAGS and noticed a lot of you have purchased Two Cherries chisels. Do you still like them? .... Yes, I like them a great deal. They are my most valued hand tools and I use them constantly. I also have an 8mm Hirsch mortising chisel that seems to be of similar good quality. Cheers, Nate wood page: http://home.earthlink.net/~nateperkins1/index.htm |
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