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Hello,
I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. There's a new channel called Create, which happens to be channel 223 on Charter Cable in CT. Peter. |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0400, Peter Bogiatzidis wrote:
I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. I watched it exactly two times. The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. That may have been a misleading sample, but if not I can't imagine anyone on this group getting much out of it. Even a newbie. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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Create is a good channel that has been around for a few years. We
used to get it at our last location before we moved. We are pressing the local rural cable provider to add it. It has a little of everything for the woodworker, crafter, cooking, travel, garden, etc crew. |
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Create is PBS.
Peter Bogiatzidis wrote: Hello, I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. There's a new channel called Create, which happens to be channel 223 on Charter Cable in CT. Peter. |
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Larry Blanchard writes:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0400, Peter Bogiatzidis wrote: I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. I watched it exactly two times. The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. Yeah, like the sanding show. Never even mentioned cabinet scrapers, files or rasps. I like the magazine, but the show is a bit too basic. scott |
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I have to disagree. What may seem simple, and easily done with
modern power tools is a challenge with hand tools. How many of us can take a tree branch, and create a 24" x 2" x 4" board, just using hand tools? Another area which I keep forgetting, is that carpenters 200 years ago were still pretty clever guys. I am challenged by the show to try new techniques, such as sliding dovetails, or a round ball in a socket. |
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On Oct 14, 3:18*pm, (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
Larry Blanchard writes: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0400, Peter Bogiatzidis wrote: I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. I watched it exactly two times. *The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. Yeah, like the sanding show. * Never even mentioned cabinet scrapers, files or rasps. I like the magazine, but the show is a bit too basic. scott You got cable in your cave? |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:21:24 -0700, rich wrote:
I have to disagree. What may seem simple, and easily done with modern power tools is a challenge with hand tools. How many of us can take a tree branch, and create a 24" x 2" x 4" board, just using hand tools? They did this on the show? If so, I rest my case :-). If not, what relevance does it have? -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On Oct 14, 3:09*pm, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:21:24 -0700, rich wrote: * *I have to disagree. *What may seem simple, and easily done with modern power tools is a challenge with hand tools. *How many of us can take a tree branch, and create a 24" x 2" x 4" board, just using hand tools? They did this on the show? *If so, I rest my case :-). If not, what relevance does it have? -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw Of course not! It's an example of a challenge to a student prior to the use of power tools. To get that board corectly dimensioned, flat on all faces, and all at right angles, using only hand tools is quite an accomplishment. The show demonstrates other techniques, that can be applied to your own projects. I suggest you turn off your power tools one day, and see if you can produce a board, as noted above, from a branch. |
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rich wrote:
I suggest you turn off your power tools one day, and see if you can produce a board, as noted above, from a branch. Why? If the Egyptians had a crane and jackhammers, they would've used them. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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-MIKE- wrote:
rich wrote: I suggest you turn off your power tools one day, and see if you can produce a board, as noted above, from a branch. Why? Did you see the movie Karate Kid ("Wipe-on..., Wipe-off..."). Because it may lead you to new skills! : ) If the Egyptians had a crane and jackhammers, they would've used them. :-) |
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Bill wrote:
Did you see the movie Karate Kid ("Wipe-on..., Wipe-off..."). Because it may lead you to new skills! : ) LMAO! That cracked me up for some reason. Yeah, I don't remember that. Was that in the deleted scenes on the DVD or something? -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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-MIKE- wrote:
rich wrote: I suggest you turn off your power tools one day, and see if you can produce a board, as noted above, from a branch. Why? If the Egyptians had a crane and jackhammers, they would've used them. :-) Further, how many home shops have a froe and a drawknife and a seasoned tree branch? Try that with green wood and you're mainly going to learn why you don't want to work with green wood. |
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-MIKE- wrote:
Bill wrote: Did you see the movie Karate Kid ("Wipe-on..., Wipe-off..."). Because it may lead you to new skills! : ) LMAO! That cracked me up for some reason. Yeah, I don't remember that. Was that in the deleted scenes on the DVD or something? Maybe you remember "wax on, wax off". It was reinforced later in the movie when Miyagi showed _why_ "wax on, wax off". |
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J. Clarke wrote:
-MIKE- wrote: Bill wrote: Did you see the movie Karate Kid ("Wipe-on..., Wipe-off..."). Because it may lead you to new skills! : ) LMAO! That cracked me up for some reason. Yeah, I don't remember that. Was that in the deleted scenes on the DVD or something? Maybe you remember "wax on, wax off". It was reinforced later in the movie when Miyagi showed _why_ "wax on, wax off". I was picturing Billy Mays as Mr. Miyagi doing an infomercial in Japan. "A stain confronts you, it is the enemy. An enemy deserves no mercy. Just wipe on and wipe off to kick that stain's ass with the amazing Whammy Chammy!" -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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-MIKE- wrote:
rich wrote: I suggest you turn off your power tools one day, and see if you can produce a board, as noted above, from a branch. Why? If the Egyptians had a crane and jackhammers, they would've used them. :-) Maybe they did, and Jimmy Hoffa took 'em to the same place he took Saddam's WMDs... :-) -- See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad! To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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"J. Clarke" writes:
-MIKE- wrote: rich wrote: I suggest you turn off your power tools one day, and see if you can produce a board, as noted above, from a branch. Why? If the Egyptians had a crane and jackhammers, they would've used them. :-) Further, how many home shops have a froe and a drawknife and a seasoned tree branch? Try that with green wood and you're mainly going to learn why you don't want to work with green wood. Many, if not most, homes with fireplaces will have seasoned wood available. A froe may not be necessary, a drawknife is nice, but a scrub plane or frame/bow saw can be used in a pinch. I've built many a box from seasoned firewood (mainly Almond). Almond also makes nice handles for socket chisels. So does the Olive I scavenged from the neighbors tree when it came down. I've also scavenged apple (enough for a small shaker table), sycamore (nice quarter sawn curls) and live oak (some qs, some ugly). I think learning woodworking _should_ start with making an S4S board from a chunk of firewood; hand or power tools doesn't really matter, the process is fundamentally the same. scott |
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rich wrote:
I have to disagree. What may seem simple, and easily done with modern power tools is a challenge with hand tools. How many of us can take a tree branch, and create a 24" x 2" x 4" board, just using hand tools? Another area which I keep forgetting, is that carpenters 200 years ago were still pretty clever guys. I am challenged by the show to try new techniques, such as sliding dovetails, or a round ball in a socket. Are you confusing the "Woodsmith Shop" with the "Woodwright's Shop"? The former is the show mentioned in the topic for this thread. The later does use neander methods. |
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On Oct 13, 11:29*am, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0400, Peter Bogiatzidis wrote: I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. I watched it exactly two times. *The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. That may have been a misleading sample, but if not I can't imagine anyone on this group getting much out of it. *Even a newbie. I hope you are wrong. Obviously there are a lot of seasoned woodworkers within this group. However, I'm sure there are several levels of newbies that use this resource too, some just getting their feet wet. For folks who are just starting the craft, groups like this and programs like Woodsmith, Norm, etc are great for motivation as well as information. Ron |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:32:18 -0700, Dan Coby wrote:
rich wrote: I have to disagree. What may seem simple, and easily done with modern power tools is a challenge with hand tools. How many of us can take a tree branch, and create a 24" x 2" x 4" board, just using hand tools? Another area which I keep forgetting, is that carpenters 200 years ago were still pretty clever guys. I am challenged by the show to try new techniques, such as sliding dovetails, or a round ball in a socket. Are you confusing the "Woodsmith Shop" with the "Woodwright's Shop"? The former is the show mentioned in the topic for this thread. The later does use neander methods. Our TV listings gave it as the "Wood Shop" in fine print. I thought it might be the Woodwright's shop. That's how come I tuned in the 1st time :-). The 2nd was just to confirm the level of the show. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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Dan Coby wrote in
m: *snip* I do agree that the few Woodsmith Shows that I have watched have been extremely basic. It's very basic material mixed in with 11 minutes of filler. This for a 22 minute show! There needs to be less "round table" introduction and more content. Puckdropper -- "The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on rec.woodworking To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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On Oct 13, 11:29*am, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0400, Peter Bogiatzidis wrote: I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. I watched it exactly two times. *The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. That may have been a misleading sample, but if not I can't imagine anyone on this group getting much out of it. *Even a newbie. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw I have seen it. The episodes I have seen are basic stuff. But I consider that to be good...the hobby needs introductory stuff as well as advanced info. And God knows that television in general needs more instructional/do- it-yourself shows to replace the reality crapola and sports that floods the airwaves. I hope the show is successful and will encourage more shows of the same type at all skill levels. TMT |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote: I watched it exactly two times. The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. What it really does is show how well the NYW is written, the excellent camera work it has, and what talent Norm possesses not only as a wood butcher but also as an instructor. Simply put, the NYW is light years ahead of it's competitors IMHO. YMMV. Lew |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... On Oct 13, 11:29 am, Larry Blanchard wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:32:07 -0400, Peter Bogiatzidis wrote: I recently caught the tail end of an episode of the Woodsmith Shop at a friend's house and thought that others here might be interested. I watched it exactly two times. The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. That may have been a misleading sample, but if not I can't imagine anyone on this group getting much out of it. Even a newbie. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw I have seen it. The episodes I have seen are basic stuff. But I consider that to be good...the hobby needs introductory stuff as well as advanced info. Agreed, I try to record them and watch them, most I immediatly discard but I have kept a couple. As for making Norm look like a guru, yeah, he has had 21 years of practice. I recall he to was pretty basic and elementry by today's standards when he used his ShopSmith to cut up lumber. And God knows that television in general needs more instructional/do- it-yourself shows to replace the reality crapola and sports that floods the airwaves. Yeah, unless the instructional show involves a hot melt glue gun or beads of any kind. I hope the show is successful and will encourage more shows of the same type at all skill levels. I can see it progressing just like TYW did. They have the know how to produce very nice furniture. |
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To All, I really screwed up! Woodsmith vs Woodwright! I was arguing
in favor of the Woodwright, most of you were referring to Woodsmith. Like arguing a band saw vs French Toast. I stand by my statements regarding the use of basic hand tools as a skill builder, and for pleasure. That said, I use the full range of power tools whenever needed. When I run across a show that is too basic, I don't watch. Or too silly. Each to their own skill level. |
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In article , lewhodgett2
@verizon.net says... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote: I watched it exactly two times. The stuff that was covered was so basic it made Nahm look like a guru. What it really does is show how well the NYW is written, the excellent camera work it has, and what talent Norm possesses not only as a wood butcher but also as an instructor. Simply put, the NYW is light years ahead of it's competitors IMHO. YMMV. Lew I don't know what Normie's schedule is for next year, but a very good sign: This morning I was driving to work and was about a block past the NYW when I saw a "XXXX Forest Products" delivery truck heading the other way. There's no recording schedule on the New Yankee web site, but I hope they are going to produce some new episodes and not just repeat old ones. (I can't remember what XXXX is, but they're a hardwood supplier that has been mentioned in the credits on the NYW or TOH or both.) Yeah, I know where the top secret location is, and have threatened to reveal it if not bribed with an autographed brad nailer or something of equivalent value... -- John |
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"John Santos" wrote in message . .. In article , lewhodgett2 @verizon.net says... I don't know what Normie's schedule is for next year, but a very good sign: This morning I was driving to work and was about a block past the NYW when I saw a "XXXX Forest Products" delivery truck heading the other way. There's no recording schedule on the New Yankee web site, but I hope they are going to produce some new episodes and not just repeat old ones. (I can't remember what XXXX is, but they're a hardwood supplier that has been mentioned in the credits on the NYW or TOH or both.) NYW is done. Are you under the impression that XXX forest Products exists only for NYW? Were the other cars that you saw a good sign also. ;!) Yeah, I know where the top secret location is, and have threatened to reveal it if not bribed with an autographed brad nailer or something of equivalent value... I think every one knows where the NYW location is. Google Earth reveals it. |
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