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Bill	October 10th 09 07:53 AM

SketchUp Question

I've been experimenting for a few hours...I learned the answer to why we
want to make "Components"--as was suggested the other day. Otherwise the
pieces are difficult to select or take apart, for instance! As components,
pieces move easily.

Here is my question:

I made a bookshelf side (component) with some hidden dados cut for shelves.
I entered the depth manually.

Then I made a shelf (component).

Then by working from various orientations, I was able to move a shelf into
the bookshelf side.

However, I was just "eye-balling" it. I couldn't really tell "how far" in
the shelf was into the dado.

Is there a way to get a "perfect fit into the dado? The advantage to this
would be that you could messure the size of
the pieces after you build/design a project. Is there better way to
approach this with SketchUp?

In general, I'm really just learning to assemble components. Suggestions
welcome, of course.

Thank you,
Bill

Tanus

October 10th 09 12:59 PM

SketchUp Question

Bill wrote:
I've been experimenting for a few hours...I learned the answer to why we
want to make "Components"--as was suggested the other day. Otherwise the
pieces are difficult to select or take apart, for instance! As components,
pieces move easily.

Here is my question:

I made a bookshelf side (component) with some hidden dados cut for shelves.
I entered the depth manually.

Then I made a shelf (component).

Then by working from various orientations, I was able to move a shelf into
the bookshelf side.

However, I was just "eye-balling" it. I couldn't really tell "how far" in
the shelf was into the dado.

Is there a way to get a "perfect fit into the dado? The advantage to this
would be that you could messure the size of
the pieces after you build/design a project. Is there better way to
approach this with SketchUp?

In general, I'm really just learning to assemble components. Suggestions
welcome, of course.

Thank you,
Bill

If the dado is not blind on both ends, there is an easy way to get
perfect alignment. If it is blind on both ends, you need X-ray view.

Pan or rotate your view (not the piece) so that you can see the
not-blind end of the dado as well as the other end of the dado. Make
sure the shelf is in the same view. With the Move tool, click on the
corner of the shelf that will be snugging into the furthest reach of the
dado. (You'll get a purple dot with the message "Endpoint in Component")

With the Move tool, move that point close to the end of the dado (the
hidden end). You are again looking for "Endpoint in Component" to
confirm that you've wedded the pieces properly. Likely you won't on
first pass, and you may have to pan, rotate, or zoom to ensure that
they're lined up perfectly.

You have to futz with the views a lot the first few times to get it
right. After that, it gets a bit easier.

If you really can't get a view that works, switch to X-ray or wireframe
(ViewFacestyleX-Ray) and follow the same steps.

Tanus

Swingman

October 10th 09 01:12 PM

SketchUp Question

Bill wrote:

Is there a way to get a "perfect fit into the dado? The advantage to this
would be that you could messure the size of
the pieces after you build/design a project. Is there better way to
approach this with SketchUp?

Many ways to do it, but one of the easiest is to to use "xray" view and
the Move tool to move the shelf into the hidden dado using the
appropriate corner/"inference" point.

To learn more about SU's "inference engine", which is extremely helpful
in placing components in a model:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFfmIgJqlIw

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Leon[_6_]

October 10th 09 01:17 PM

SketchUp Question

"Bill" wrote in message
...

I've been experimenting for a few hours...I learned the answer to why we
want to make "Components"--as was suggested the other day. Otherwise the
pieces are difficult to select or take apart, for instance! As
components, pieces move easily.

Here is my question:

I made a bookshelf side (component) with some hidden dados cut for
shelves. I entered the depth manually.

Then I made a shelf (component).

Then by working from various orientations, I was able to move a shelf into
the bookshelf side.

However, I was just "eye-balling" it. I couldn't really tell "how far" in
the shelf was into the dado.

Is there a way to get a "perfect fit into the dado? The advantage to this
would be that you could messure the size of
the pieces after you build/design a project. Is there better way to
approach this with SketchUp?

In general, I'm really just learning to assemble components. Suggestions
welcome, of course.

Bill I posted a link to a a Beginners Sketchup tutorial. I learned from it!
Some times things have to be done differently.

Something you might try as illustraded in the video. Draw your sides with
the dado's and convert into components. Then instead of drawing a shelf
"out side the box" Start drawing the shelf using the inner dado corners
as the limits/length and thickness of the shelf using the rectangle command.
Basically start the rectangle in the top corner bottom of a dado and end in
the opposite bottom corner of the dado. This should give you a rectangle
the corect length inside the dado's. Then push that long narrow rectangle
to the depth that you want or to an inferance point. AND then convert that
shelf into a component.

Leon[_6_]

October 10th 09 01:22 PM

SketchUp Question

"Leon" wrote in message
...

"

Bill I posted a link to a a Beginners Sketchup tutorial. I learned from
it!
Some times things have to be done differently.

Something you might try as illustraded in the video. Draw your sides with
the dado's and convert into components. Then instead of drawing a shelf
"out side the box" Start drawing the shelf using the inner dado corners
as the limits/length and thickness of the shelf using the rectangle
command. Basically start the rectangle in the top corner bottom of a dado
and end in the opposite bottom corner of the dado. This should give you a
rectangle the corect length inside the dado's. Then push that long narrow
rectangle to the depth that you want or to an inferance point. AND then
convert that shelf into a component.

An additional note, you mentioned hidden dado's. If you are using stopped
dados condiser using the method mentioned above from the back side where the
dado actually exits/starts. If stopped on both front and back use the
method above but turn on x-ray so that you can see the bottoms of the dado's
and draw the rectangle.

Bill	October 10th 09 07:35 PM

SketchUp Question

Leon, Tanus, and Swingman,

Thank you for your SketchUp tips! I'll try them during this evening's
practice session!
I haven't tried the X-Ray view yet.

Thanks,
Bill

"Leon" wrote in message
...

"Leon" wrote in message
...

"

Bill I posted a link to a a Beginners Sketchup tutorial. I learned from
it!
Some times things have to be done differently.

Something you might try as illustraded in the video. Draw your sides
with the dado's and convert into components. Then instead of drawing a
shelf "out side the box" Start drawing the shelf using the inner dado
corners as the limits/length and thickness of the shelf using the
rectangle command. Basically start the rectangle in the top corner bottom
of a dado and end in the opposite bottom corner of the dado. This should
give you a rectangle the corect length inside the dado's. Then push that
long narrow rectangle to the depth that you want or to an inferance
point. AND then convert that shelf into a component.

An additional note, you mentioned hidden dado's. If you are using stopped
dados condiser using the method mentioned above from the back side where
the dado actually exits/starts. If stopped on both front and back use
the method above but turn on x-ray so that you can see the bottoms of the
dado's and draw the rectangle.

Bill	October 11th 09 08:57 AM

SketchUp Question

Swingman

December 29th 09 02:38 PM