when to use OSB
It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. |
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coloradotrout wrote:
It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. I'm not sure it's worth the savings. I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased. I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again. Keep in mind that, in general, one side grips and one side slips, by design. It's not something I'd want to be sliding hands or edges of plywood across, on the grip side. It also splinters and chips very easily, so depending on manufacture and cutting blade, can be downright nasty to handle on a cut edge. For your purpose, I think melamine would be better. It's smooth and clean and sheets would slide across very easily, and not mark or scratch against it. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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coloradotrout wrote:
It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I inherited a pile of OSB cut-offs when I moved into my current shop. I use it for decks on light-duty pallets, and I've used strips to sticker rough-sawn wood. It hasn't been a suitable material for anything else I've done. I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. It's cheap, but not very durable. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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Morris Dovey wrote in :
coloradotrout wrote: It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I inherited a pile of OSB cut-offs when I moved into my current shop. I use it for decks on light-duty pallets, and I've used strips to sticker rough-sawn wood. It hasn't been a suitable material for anything else I've done. I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. It's cheap, but not very durable. At work, OSB stands for Obscenely Swelling Board. It's OK for some interior uses, but not as good as ply for holding fasteners. Any application that might even think about getting wet is out of the question. Unless you're talking about Advantec - now THAT's good stuff. |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:12:56 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: coloradotrout wrote: It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. I'm not sure it's worth the savings. I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased. I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again. Keep in mind that, in general, one side grips and one side slips, by design. It's not something I'd want to be sliding hands or edges of plywood across, on the grip side. It also splinters and chips very easily, so depending on manufacture and cutting blade, can be downright nasty to handle on a cut edge. For your purpose, I think melamine would be better. It's smooth and clean and sheets would slide across very easily, and not mark or scratch against it. I'd agree. My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER. I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything. |
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"coloradotrout" wrote in message ... It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? Never have, never will. |
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-MIKE- wrote:
I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased. I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again. On reason I don't use it for construction is that it does NOT hold screws or nails over time very well ... -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Sep 23, 9:39*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:12:56 -0500, -MIKE- wrote: coloradotrout wrote: It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. *At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. I'm not sure it's worth the savings. I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased. I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again.. Keep in mind that, in general, one side grips and one side slips, by design. It's not something I'd want to be sliding hands or edges of plywood across, on the grip side. It also splinters and chips very easily, so depending on manufacture and cutting blade, can be downright nasty to handle on a cut edge. For your purpose, I think melamine would be better. It's smooth and clean and sheets would slide across very easily, and not mark or scratch against it. *I'd agree. My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER. I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything. We build shipping crates from it all the time. And we also use it for vacuum pressing cauls. And we've even used a little bit as door panels after we ran it through the widebelt. Funky looking stuff once it's sanded smooth and finished with some amber shellac. That was just for kicks though. JP |
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coloradotrout | 2009-09-23 | 11:38:43 AM wrote:
It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. There's a cedar-only lumber yard in Dallas that panelled their office in OSB. It's ... unique. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX USA |
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coloradotrout wrote:
It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. When my brother built his shop back in the 80s he used OSB for panelling in the cabinet doors. It looked pretty good. Bill |
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I've used it for shop/garage shelving.
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Jay Pique wrote:
coloradotrout wrote: It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER. I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything. We build shipping crates from it all the time. And we also use it for vacuum pressing cauls. And we've even used a little bit as door panels after we ran it through the widebelt. Funky looking stuff once it's sanded smooth and finished with some amber shellac. That was just for kicks though. When my son was in high school and working at Macy Dept Store, he called me one day and said they were tossing out 5 perfectly nice packing boxes about 3'x3'x12", and thought I should come get them. He said there has got to be some use, perhaps build a cat house for a feral cat community living under my shed. They were made of flake board, the stuff used for roofing today... I built a two story condo, insulated for the cats, and with no finish at all, they have survived 7 years outside though harsh Pittsburgh weather. I thought it would last because I knew a guy that built a cottage on an island in the the river, sided with untreated flake board. It lasted 20 years before a flood swept the damn thing away. The stuff is far more durable than people make out. You can't leave it contact the ground, or it will swell and rot. It can handle a ton of weather as long as it can dry out, but thats true of any wood, other than pressure treated stuff. Go to my web page, (http://jbstein.com) and in the photo gallery, under cats, the 4th picture has the cat house I made just by screwing two packing boxes together. Thing is still in perfect shape, still outside, 12 months a year for 7 or so years.... Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ http://jbstein.com |
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"Jack Stein" wrote in message
... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? |
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"LDosser" wrote in message ... "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
... "LDosser" wrote in message ... "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? |
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LDosser wrote:
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "LDosser" wrote in message ... "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Make it in China? -- Froz... |
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"LDosser" wrote in message ... "Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "LDosser" wrote in message ... "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction. Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I guess that means they are straight) ;) The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are big presses at work. |
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"FrozenNorth" wrote in message
... LDosser wrote: "Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "LDosser" wrote in message ... "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Make it in China? Ah, so! |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
"LDosser" wrote in message ... "Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "LDosser" wrote in message ... "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction. Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I guess that means they are straight) ;) The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are big presses at work. It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's stronger in one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the panels. |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:34:42 -0700, "LDosser"
wrote: "Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? It's oriented flat. no strands renning surface to surface |
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J. Clarke wrote:
http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction. Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I guess that means they are straight) ;) The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are big presses at work. It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's stronger in one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the panels. I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's rears or not. :-) The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want to call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same direction on each layer they glue down, or "ply." And it's not stronger in any direction. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Sep 29, 9:31*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
J. Clarke wrote: http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. *Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. *But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction. Each of those chunks all lay flat. *That is their orintation. *(I guess that means they are straight) *;) The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are big presses at work. It's more than just "oriented flat". *It's designed so that it's stronger in one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the panels. I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's rears or not. *:-) The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want to call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same direction on each layer they glue down, or "ply." And it's not stronger in any direction. Dunno' about that.... http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis as compared to the narrow axis." .... or any number of other sources. |
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Neil Brooks wrote:
On Sep 29, 9:31 pm, -MIKE- wrote: J. Clarke wrote: http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction. Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I guess that means they are straight) ;) The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are big presses at work. It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's stronger in one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the panels. I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's rears or not. :-) The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want to call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same direction on each layer they glue down, or "ply." And it's not stronger in any direction. Dunno' about that.... http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis as compared to the narrow axis." ... or any number of other sources. I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made, the strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer. Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything dealing with evolving technology. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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-MIKE- wrote:
Neil Brooks wrote: On Sep 29, 9:31 pm, -MIKE- wrote: J. Clarke wrote: http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong. OK, then How do they orient it? Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction. Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I guess that means they are straight) ;) The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are big presses at work. It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's stronger in one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the panels. I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's rears or not. :-) The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want to call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same direction on each layer they glue down, or "ply." And it's not stronger in any direction. Dunno' about that.... http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis as compared to the narrow axis." ... or any number of other sources. I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made, the strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer. Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything dealing with evolving technology. It's an engineered product--the strands have whatever orientation give it the properties that the engineer wants it to have. If they went north/south, east/west every other layer, whichever orientation was on the faces that's the orientation of the stronger axis. |
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On Sep 30, 10:39*am, Jack Stein wrote:
*Of course, there is waterproof, and then there is waterproof... No there isn't. It is either waterproof or it isn't. |
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LDosser wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote in message Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? I dunno, I always called it flake board or wafer board, and had the same question you do. I assume it's supposed to all go in one direction, but sure doesn't seem to do that, does it? Anyway, the stuff is pretty good for it's intended purposes. Of interest to me, someone who normally hates this stuff, I found it OK for doors on my TS bench... surprises the heck out of me. Even more surprising is in this very thread, someone else said/did the same thing... Also, I learned long long ago the stuff is more durable in weather than most people think, just keep it off the ground. I think lots of people think of particle board, designed for indoor use like counter tops as so on, that stuff gets wet, it immediately swells and falls apart. If glue is not waterproof, it can't get wet. Wood is waterproof, so if you have a wood product, with waterproof glue, you should be OK. Of course, there is waterproof, and then there is waterproof... -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ http://jbstein.com |
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I've mainly used it for sheathing and covered it with 30# felt and
siding. Have used it in the shop instead of Sheet Rock as it is better to fasten stuff to. Just finished a small chicken coop made of the stuff (primed and painted inside and out!) and a re-enforcing beam some 18' long to tie the two walls of my shop and support the (metal - 5V Crimp) roof. There i ran a 2x10 bottom cord from wall to wall and cut and nailed and glued triangular sections to the rafters above it and itself, then ran another 2x10 nailed and glued and bolted to it like a sandwich and "sandwiched" the rafters above as well. I hope it will tie the tow walls together nicely and will try removing (it was a pole barn I expanded) one of the poles that I, now, feel is "in the way." I think it's best not exposed to the weather as wet, it swells. Notwithstanding some of the comments I read replying to this post. At Lowes here in NC, its $5.65 a board and a bit cheaper at the local materials outlet. |
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Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?
"adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;" The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined up). http://www.google.com/search?q=defin...ient=firefox-a |
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LDosser wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote in message ... snip Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? The interior ply are oriented with each ply at a right angle to the next. It's only the outer two surfaces that are random. -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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J. Clarke wrote:
And it's not stronger in any direction. Dunno' about that.... http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis as compared to the narrow axis." ... or any number of other sources. I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made, the strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer. Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything dealing with evolving technology. It's an engineered product--the strands have whatever orientation give it the properties that the engineer wants it to have. If they went north/south, east/west every other layer, whichever orientation was on the faces that's the orientation of the stronger axis. I was thinking that it would make sense to have it stronger in the lengthwise direction, since in its intended application, the width is supported by trusses and studs. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Hoosierpopi wrote:
Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;" The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined up). http://www.google.com/search?q=defin...ient=firefox-a Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes? They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips. I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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I wasn't going to tell anybody but I think I have to get it off my
chest. I needed a real workbench and I had to use what I had laying around, and that was some rough cut white oak two by fours and three OSB former shelf-boards boards. I laminated the three shelf boards together with yellow glue, then used the oak for the frame and to band the edges. I figured "This will last me a couple years and then I'll build a real one." Got it mostly sanded down, finished it will Waterlox and put a coat of Johnson's wax on the top. A friend gave me a couple of old quick release vises. Put some drop-down wheels on it so I could shove it around the shop when I had to. (That's pretty much required in that little shop.) Almost five years later the top is still so flat that I can barely get a dollar bill underneath the middle of a straightedge across it the long way, the dog holes haven't crumbled, and it still serves as a clamping machine and assembly table. It's not especially long or wide but it's got a lot of mass. I've decided to hold off on the new bench till I find something about this one that I don't like. I put a couple drawers in the center frame. I've grown very attached to it. On Sep 23, 11:38*am, coloradotrout wrote: It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof sheathing. When do you use it around the shop? I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. *At $6 a sheet, seems OSB would server the purpose. |
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-MIKE- wrote:
J. Clarke wrote: And it's not stronger in any direction. Dunno' about that.... http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis as compared to the narrow axis." ... or any number of other sources. I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made, the strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer. Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything dealing with evolving technology. It's an engineered product--the strands have whatever orientation give it the properties that the engineer wants it to have. If they went north/south, east/west every other layer, whichever orientation was on the faces that's the orientation of the stronger axis. I was thinking that it would make sense to have it stronger in the lengthwise direction, since in its intended application, the width is supported by trusses and studs. If it's OSB intended for roof sheathing then that is in fact how it's made. If it's for wall sheathing then the strength might go the other way. There will be a marking on the faces that shows the direction of the strength axis. |
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"-MIKE-" wrote in message
... Hoosierpopi wrote: Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;" The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined up). http://www.google.com/search?q=defin...ient=firefox-a Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes? They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips. I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction. Magnets. :) |
when to use OSB
"LDosser" wrote in message ... "-MIKE-" wrote in message ... Hoosierpopi wrote: Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;" The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined up). http://www.google.com/search?q=defin...ient=firefox-a Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes? They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips. I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction. Magnets. :) wood magnets? try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriente...#Manufacturing |
when to use OSB
"charlie" wrote in message
... "LDosser" wrote in message ... "-MIKE-" wrote in message ... Hoosierpopi wrote: Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;" The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined up). http://www.google.com/search?q=defin...ient=firefox-a Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes? They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips. I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction. Magnets. :) wood magnets? try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriente...#Manufacturing Nothing in that about magnets. :( |
when to use OSB
J. Clarke wrote:
-MIKE- wrote: I was thinking that it would make sense to have it stronger in the lengthwise direction, since in its intended application, the width is supported by trusses and studs. If it's OSB intended for roof sheathing then that is in fact how it's made. If it's for wall sheathing then the strength might go the other way. There will be a marking on the faces that shows the direction of the strength axis. I was thinking roof or floor. There isn't really much strength need for wall sheathing, other than what it takes to help square the wall, and that's in a different direction altogether. :-) There are home builders who will use rigid polystyrene sheets for sheathing, and just use a half sheet of ply/OSB on the corners. please. If you're a thief, why waste your time with a door, when all you need is a cordless reciprocating saw to cut a man sized hole in the freakin wall? -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
when to use OSB
Jack I think you get indoor use strand with deck board and roof and siding
mixed up. There is outdoor water proof glue. It makes for a heavier board and is more expensive. Some builders cheap out. A big builder in San Jose area was caught a few years after he completed a housing tract. I think insurance paid and he continues to pay high insurance. The other one on rood decking - use stainless staples. If you use normal steel they will rust out and shingles will blow or fall off. Martin Jack Stein wrote: LDosser wrote: "Jack Stein" wrote in message Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother. http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? I dunno, I always called it flake board or wafer board, and had the same question you do. I assume it's supposed to all go in one direction, but sure doesn't seem to do that, does it? Anyway, the stuff is pretty good for it's intended purposes. Of interest to me, someone who normally hates this stuff, I found it OK for doors on my TS bench... surprises the heck out of me. Even more surprising is in this very thread, someone else said/did the same thing... Also, I learned long long ago the stuff is more durable in weather than most people think, just keep it off the ground. I think lots of people think of particle board, designed for indoor use like counter tops as so on, that stuff gets wet, it immediately swells and falls apart. If glue is not waterproof, it can't get wet. Wood is waterproof, so if you have a wood product, with waterproof glue, you should be OK. Of course, there is waterproof, and then there is waterproof... |
when to use OSB
Hoosierpopi wrote:
Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't? The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on another. "Randomly oriented" Ya gotta love it:-) Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness... -- Jack Got Change: General Motors ====== Government Motors! http://jbstein.com |
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