7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
--
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but you can't make them THINK"
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evodawg wrote:
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
Take a look at Panasonic. Had mine for 8 years now with perhaps light
to medium use. Had the batteries rebuilt once a year ago. Still runs
better than I do.
satisfied customer,
j4

"evodawg" wrote in message
...
. Could someone offer a suggestion other then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...

Good choices, but I like my Panasonic.

evodawg wrote in
:

Could someone offer a suggestion other then PC? Thinking
Makita or Milwaukee...

I've got a Makita I just love. It was part of a combo pack, with drill,
impact driver, and flashlight. The set with the flashlight was 4 dollars
cheaper than the set without (go figure), so I got the flashlight.

The keyless chuck on the drill works exactly how one is supposed to work.
Place the bit in, and give it a spin, then several clicks. The drill bit
isn't moving.

Time of ownership: About a year, year and a half
Usage: light

Puckdropper
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reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

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evodawg wrote:
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was
finally stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some
reason. Anyway owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd
replace my stolen drill with another. Well not sure that was a good
idea knowing they had been bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't,
Ive had this 18 volt for about a month and the reverse has stopped
working. Thank goodness, it's working in the clockwise position. But
it's still not working. In the 7 years I had my other it only needed
batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other then PC? Thinking
Makita or Milwaukee...

Dunno if the new dewalts are like the old ones, but I keep hoping mine will
die so I have an excuse to get a new one with the three-speed gearbox
instead of two.

In article ,
says...

"evodawg" wrote in message
...
. Could someone offer a suggestion other then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...

Good choices, but I like my Panasonic.


nods I have a 9.6 and a 12 Volt Panasonic and they're both fantastic.
that 12V drill with 4 Ah NiMH batteries has more torque than some 24V
el-cheapo brands that I have had the misfortune to be handed to use.

The 9.6 is a beaut for working in confined spaces (although there's
smaller gear out now) and has the most delicate torque adjustment I have
_ever_ seen on any cordless drill. It still has much more torque than
the 11.2V Li-Ion Bosch driver I bought (but that one is much smaller).

I know a couple of builders who swear by their Metabos. I know a plumber
who said he had nothing but (battery) trouble with a Metabo. I only have
mains powered Metabos myself (top notch), but I won't vouch for the
cordless.

-P.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"evodawg" wrote in message
...

. Could someone offer a suggestion other then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...


Good choices, but I like my Panasonic.



I'll vote for the Panasonic as well. I've had the 19.2 volt for about 2
years with medium to heavy use. No problems other than its weight when
drywalling ceilings. It has plenty of torque and the batteries recharge
in about 20 minutes.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

On Jul 12, 7:41*am, "J. Clarke" wrote:
evodawg wrote:
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was
finally stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some
reason. Anyway owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd
replace my stolen drill with another. Well not sure that was a good
idea knowing they had been bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't,
Ive had this 18 volt for about a month and the reverse has stopped
working. Thank goodness, it's working in the clockwise position. But
it's still not working. In the 7 years I had my other it only needed
batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other then PC? Thinking
Makita or Milwaukee...

Dunno if the new dewalts are like the old ones, but I keep hoping mine will
die so I have an excuse to get a new one with the three-speed gearbox
instead of two.

I would go for Makita too. My wife got a combo pack for me 3-4 years
ago because my older Makita was "bound" to die some day. Not sure how
old the old one is but I bought it when local Builders Squares went
belly up so that puts in in the late 1990's. To paraphrase Mark Twain
"rumors of the old Makita's demise were greatly exaggerated. It looks
like an old, battered stockcar but its going strong. All are 14.4
but not hammer drills. The newer combo has the impact driver which
has been a good tool too.

RonB

"evodawg" wrote in message
...
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had
my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other
then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

I have owned Panasonic, DeWalt, Makita, and Bosch, in that order. The
Panasonic was probably the best although replacement batteries 12 years ago
were prohibitively expensive so I switched to DeWalt. No complaints there
either. I finally switched to Makita with the death for the second time of
the DeWalt batteries. The Makita is my current and I have the drill/driver
and impact driver set. This combination has worked well for the last 4.5
years although I had to replace one of the pair of batteries after 3 years.
Recently I some how received, for free, a Bosch 18 volt Lion Impact Driver
and while it is probably much stronger than my Makita 12 volt driver I
prefer the feel of the Makita. The Bosch seems to be made for smaller hands
as it does not afford a natural feeling to pull the trigger to full throttle
position without having to focus on that action. I prefer the chuck on the
Makita impact driver over the Bosch. I'll probably be giving both a good
workout/comparison this week while helping Swingman install kitchen cabinets
in a new home he has been building. We'll see which I end up reaching for
the most.

"evodawg" wrote in message
...
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had
my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other
then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

My most recent drill purchase was a Rigid lithium ion package. I've been
using Dewalts for 7-9 years, but the most recent one has problems.

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:07:40 GMT, "Lowell Holmes"
wrote:


"evodawg" wrote in message
...
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had
my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other
then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

My most recent drill purchase was a Rigid lithium ion package. I've been
using Dewalts for 7-9 years, but the most recent one has problems.

My most recent is a 12V Bosch Li-Ion drill to go with the impact and
regular driver. Last year I bought a couple of Dewalt 18V drills and
a 12V. I don't like the 12V much (hence the Bosch) but the 18V drills
are OK. BTW, I bought the second 18V because the batteries that came
with it were worth more than I paid for the drill. I also have an
older Makita 12V and PC 14.4V, but their batteries are starting to go
(replaced once).

evodawg wrote:
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...

I'm pretty happy with my 24v Firestorm. It's got all the power I ever
needs. I just wish it were a bit lighter ... or I was a bit younger.

Larry

I'm still out on the Lithium ion for shops. I had a '''skill''' wrench
that died and shorted. - I say shorted since the supply is opened and
not producing voltage. Might be just that lower cost brand or battery .


For me, consider the full use. I got a 1/2" instant stop hammer drill.
It drills and it hammer drills. Nice for a shop.

I wish it had gotten (or will) get a hammer drill that hammers only.
Then the SDS spade or points/chisels could be used when needed.
Seems more plumbing but there are other applications as well.

Martin

Lowell Holmes wrote:
"evodawg" wrote in message
...
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had
my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other
then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

My most recent drill purchase was a Rigid lithium ion package. I've been
using Dewalts for 7-9 years, but the most recent one has problems.

krw wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:07:40 GMT, "Lowell Holmes"
wrote:


"evodawg" wrote in message
...
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason.
Anyway owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my
stolen drill with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing
they had been bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18
volt for about a month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank
goodness, it's working in the clockwise position. But it's still not
working. In the 7 years I had my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other
then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

My most recent drill purchase was a Rigid lithium ion package. I've been
using Dewalts for 7-9 years, but the most recent one has problems.

My most recent is a 12V Bosch Li-Ion drill to go with the impact and
regular driver. Last year I bought a couple of Dewalt 18V drills and
a 12V. I don't like the 12V much (hence the Bosch) but the 18V drills
are OK. BTW, I bought the second 18V because the batteries that came
with it were worth more than I paid for the drill. I also have an
older Makita 12V and PC 14.4V, but their batteries are starting to go
(replaced once).
I checked most of what has been recommended here. Think I'll go for the
Makita. The Panasonic is really expensive and I didn't find the
hammer/drill driver combination. I have seen the Makita on job sites and
everyone that has one says nothing but great things about it. I do miss my
14.4 PC though. Hey you want to sell your old one? hahaha. I've had the
Dewalt 12 volt and didn't think highly of it. It was also stolen with my
14.4 PC but I didn't think it was that great a loss, batteries were going
anyway after a year of use.
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

evodawg wrote:

7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working in
the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I had
my other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other
then PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
After reading the responses here, think I'll go with the Makita. Panasonic
is a little pricey but I'm sure worth it. I see Makita's on job sites all
the time and everyone says nothing but good things about them. Someone
mentioned FireStorm, yeah right! I need this drill to work everyday. Not a
weekend warrior drill like the PC has turned into!

Thanks to all
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but you can't make them THINK"
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Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:32:55 -0700, evodawg
wrote:

krw wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:07:40 GMT, "Lowell Holmes"
wrote:


"evodawg" wrote in message
...
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason.
Anyway owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my
stolen drill with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing
they had been bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18
volt for about a month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank
goodness, it's working in the clockwise position. But it's still not
working. In the 7 years I had my
other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion other
then
PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/

My most recent drill purchase was a Rigid lithium ion package. I've been
using Dewalts for 7-9 years, but the most recent one has problems.

My most recent is a 12V Bosch Li-Ion drill to go with the impact and
regular driver. Last year I bought a couple of Dewalt 18V drills and
a 12V. I don't like the 12V much (hence the Bosch) but the 18V drills
are OK. BTW, I bought the second 18V because the batteries that came
with it were worth more than I paid for the drill. I also have an
older Makita 12V and PC 14.4V, but their batteries are starting to go
(replaced once).
I checked most of what has been recommended here. Think I'll go for the
Makita. The Panasonic is really expensive and I didn't find the
hammer/drill driver combination. I have seen the Makita on job sites and
everyone that has one says nothing but great things about it. I do miss my
14.4 PC though. Hey you want to sell your old one? hahaha. I've had the
Dewalt 12 volt and didn't think highly of it. It was also stolen with my
14.4 PC but I didn't think it was that great a loss, batteries were going
anyway after a year of use.

I also have a Dewalt 12V that I bought just to have a ligher drill.
18V drills are simply too heavy to work overhead, or under cabinets,
for long. I don't like it either, so I bought the Bosch. I'll likely
give the Dewalt to the kid since I have no use for Dewalt 12V
batteries now. The PC is just a spare now, so... I have a few other
Makita tools that use the stick batteries, so I'll keep them around
too.

evodawg wrote:
7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about a
month and the reverse has stopped working.

Porter-Cable was actually decent for a while after the takeover.
However, in the past year or so they decided to make it a higher-end
homeowner brand rather than a "pro" brand, so they introduced a bunch of
cheaper tools with a somewhat different colour scheme. Now DeWalt is
their only real higher-end branch.

As for drill/drivers, I like my Makitas a lot.

Chris

evodawg wrote:

evodawg wrote:

7 years with my 14.4 Hammer Drill/Driver using it everyday it was finally
stolen. I say that like I was due to part with it for some reason. Anyway
owning many PC tools mostly routers I figured I'd replace my stolen drill
with another. Well not sure that was a good idea knowing they had been
bought by Black & Decker. Well it wasn't, Ive had this 18 volt for about
a month and the reverse has stopped working. Thank goodness, it's working
in the clockwise position. But it's still not working. In the 7 years I
had my other it only needed batteries. Could someone offer a suggestion
other then PC? Thinking Makita or Milwaukee...
After reading the responses here, think I'll go with the Makita. Panasonic
is a little pricey but I'm sure worth it. I see Makita's on job sites all
the time and everyone says nothing but good things about them. Someone
mentioned FireStorm, yeah right! I need this drill to work everyday. Not a
weekend warrior drill like the PC has turned into!

Thanks to all
Ended up buying this one today. I brought my PC to factory fix it shop and I
won't get it back for 10 days. I have a large cabinet install job on Friday
and didn't think it would go over well asking the customer if I could use
his weekend warrior cordless.

http://alturl.com/i2n9


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but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
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evodawg wrote:

Ended up buying this one today. I brought my PC to factory fix it shop and I
won't get it back for 10 days. I have a large cabinet install job on Friday
and didn't think it would go over well asking the customer if I could use
his weekend warrior cordless.

http://alturl.com/i2n9

Do you actually use the hammer function? If not, often the ones without
it are lighter and smaller for the same torque.

Chris

Chris Friesen wrote:

evodawg wrote:

Ended up buying this one today. I brought my PC to factory fix it shop
and I won't get it back for 10 days. I have a large cabinet install job
on Friday and didn't think it would go over well asking the customer if I
could use his weekend warrior cordless.

http://alturl.com/i2n9

Do you actually use the hammer function? If not, often the ones without
it are lighter and smaller for the same torque.

Chris
Every now and then I need it. This is not the big hammer/driver. It's still
very light 3.8 pounds
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