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Francis
 
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Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a wood
floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't know how
you call that in english, but the floor is made with little strip of
wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is a square
like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor that will give
him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of bee wax, so will a
product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day finish unless I sand
and varnish it?

THank you.
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Francis asks:

I don't know how
you call that in english, but the floor is made with little strip of
wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is a square
like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor that will give
him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of bee wax, so will a
product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day finish unless I sand
and varnish it?


More like a 1-1/2 day finish if more than one person walks on it. Beeswax is
not a finish for furniture and is even less so for a floor.

Sounds like a parquet floor. I've got one of the recent types in this room, and
cannot think of any wood flooring I hate more.

Charlie Self
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with your vast knowledge and expertise, enlighten us all as to why you
haven't replace the floor you HATE so much, good-cheer Charlie.

Should I mention to the folks here what a jerk you were this morning on
another NG? Maybe I shouldn't. ok..I'll be quiet.

dave

Charlie Self wrote:

Francis asks:


I don't know how
you call that in english, but the floor is made with little strip of
wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is a square
like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor that will give
him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of bee wax, so will a
product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day finish unless I sand
and varnish it?



More like a 1-1/2 day finish if more than one person walks on it. Beeswax is
not a finish for furniture and is even less so for a floor.

Sounds like a parquet floor. I've got one of the recent types in this room, and
cannot think of any wood flooring I hate more.

Charlie Self
"Health food makes me sick." Calvin Trillin

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html


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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:21:19 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote:

Should I mention to the folks here what a jerk you were this morning on
another NG? Maybe I shouldn't. ok..I'll be quiet.


You mean the comment (directed at you), "Are you naturally thick or
did you work hard for many years to stunt your level of intelligence?"

Oh, no hang on a minute - that wasn't Charlie, it was just another
random Usenaut who had encountered BAD and accurately summed him up in
moments.

Dave, you were being a jark (again) and several people called you on
it. Have you ever though there might be a pattern emerging ?

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:22:32 +0000, Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:21:19 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote:

Should I mention to the folks here what a jerk you were this morning on
another NG? Maybe I shouldn't. ok..I'll be quiet.


You mean the comment (directed at you), "Are you naturally thick or
did you work hard for many years to stunt your level of intelligence?"

Oh, no hang on a minute - that wasn't Charlie, it was just another
random Usenaut who had encountered BAD and accurately summed him up in
moments.

Dave, you were being a jark (again) and several people called you on
it. Have you ever though there might be a pattern emerging ?




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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:21:19 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote:

Should I mention to the folks here what a jerk you were this morning on
another NG? Maybe I shouldn't. ok..I'll be quiet.



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Did that. Trouble is, he keeps posting and others keep repeating. On the
digital photo NG he accused me of often jumping on him, and of using a lot of
profanity directed at him. I hadn't seen one of his posts in months here, and I
won't see them anywhere now. For every good line he comes up with, he comes up
with a dozen that would aggravate Mother Teresa.

Charlie Self
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SO there is no way to restore wood parquet floor without sanding and
varnish?

Francis wrote:
Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a wood
floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't know how
you call that in english, but the floor is made with little strip of
wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is a square
like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor that will give
him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of bee wax, so will a
product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day finish unless I sand
and varnish it?

THank you.

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Luigi Zanasi
 
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:07:01 -0500, Francis
scribbled:

Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...


Better to use a paint stripper first. A sander is likely to remove too
much wood.

Sers-toi de décapant à peinture en premier, ta sableuse (ponceuse en
France) risque d'enlever trop de bois.

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a wood
floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't know how
you call that in english, but the floor is made with little strip of
wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is a square
like patern.


Ça s'appelle du "parquet" en anglais, du moins en Amérique du Nord.
:-) (Note to Anglophones: parquet generally means hardwood floor in
French.)

SO I will like to put something on the floor that will give
him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of bee wax, so will a
product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day finish unless I sand
and varnish it?


Il n'y a rien d'autre à faire, il faut sabler et vernir. La cire ne
fera que rendre le plancher glissant pour quelques jours, jusqu'à ce
qu'il soit lavé. Je ne sais pas si c'est disponible en France, mais je
me suis servi d'un produit "Varathane" qui permet d'ajouter quelques
couches de vernis sans sabler. Les résultats ne sont pas parfaits,
mais pour une petite surface, ça pourrait aller.

http://www.flecto.com/product.asp?fr...ct_id=72&SBL=1

There is nothing else to do, you need to sand and varnish. Wax will
only make to floor slippery for a few days until the next time you
wash it. I don't know if it's available in France, but I have used a
Varathane product that allows adding a few coats of finish without
sanding. The results were not perfect, but are OK for a small area.

Luigi
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:07:01 -0500, Francis wrote:

Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a wood
floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't know how
you call that in english, but the floor is made with little strip of
wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is a square
like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor that will give
him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of bee wax, so will a
product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day finish unless I sand
and varnish it?

THank you.


You don't have to sand it absolutely... you can clean it up with a good brush, an abrasive powder cleaner, and a lot of
work!! I did that myself and the floor came out beautiful! Sometimes sanding will remove the darker patina color on
the high spots and leave dark lines at the wood joints... can look really bad... It depends on your floor! (I did mine
25 years ago and it needs re-doing in some spots now.

But you DO have to put a floor quality plastic finish... forget the wax alone.

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I restored mine this last summer. Is 3/8" red oak. Sunshine had caused
numerous bleached areas. I used an orbital floor sander to sand down. The
big flat rectangular type. Ouch, is a lot more work than a drum sander, but
since the floor was soooo thin..... Ended up beautifull though. I would
definitely sand if you have sun bleached ares on the floor. You will want
to even out the color. Hard to do otherwise.

John V


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Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a wood
floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't know how
you call that in english, but the floor is made with little strip of
wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is a square
like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor that will give
him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of bee wax, so will a
product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day finish unless I sand
and varnish it?

THank you.





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Fransis,

This is what I did for an oak floor that was about 12' x 15'. It had
areas where the finish was entirely worn off plus it had some scratches;

Gave it a good scrubbing with Spic-N-Span.
Went over the entire floor with a large 3M pad. This was to get of all
the grime, dirt, and general corruption the cleaning didn't get.
Wiped the floor with paint thinner.
Put small dabs of artist's Raw Sienna oil paint straight from the tube
onto a rag with some paint thinner in it and "stained' the bare spots
and scratches.
Let it dry for a couple days and put a coat of poly on it. My wife was
very pleased.

Lucky for me, Raw Sienna was a perfect match, but if it hadn't been I
would have mixed other oil colors with it on a piece of aluminum foil
and then picked it up with my rag to apply it.

Stewart



Francis wrote:

Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a
wood floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't
know how you call that in english, but the floor is made with little
strip of wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is
a square like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor
that will give him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of
bee wax, so will a product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day
finish unless I sand and varnish it?

THank you.



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Fransis,

This is what I did for an oak floor that was about 12' x 15'. It had
areas where the finish was entirely worn off plus it had some scratches;

Gave it a good scrubbing with Spic-N-Span.
Went over the entire floor with a large 3M pad. This was to get of all
the grime, dirt, and general corruption the cleaning didn't get.
Wiped the floor with paint thinner.
Put small dabs of artist's Raw Sienna oil paint straight from the tube
onto a rag with some paint thinner in it and "stained' the bare spots
and scratches.
Let it dry for a couple days and put a coat of poly on it. My wife was
very pleased.

Lucky for me, Raw Sienna was a perfect match, but if it hadn't been I
would have mixed other oil colors with it on a piece of aluminum foil
and then picked it up with my rag to apply it.

Stewart


Francis wrote:

Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a
wood floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't
know how you call that in english, but the floor is made with little
strip of wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is
a square like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor
that will give him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of
bee wax, so will a product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day
finish unless I sand and varnish it?

THank you.



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Francis
 
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Thanks to all for your great answer.

Stewart Schooley wrote:
Fransis,

This is what I did for an oak floor that was about 12' x 15'. It had
areas where the finish was entirely worn off plus it had some scratches;

Gave it a good scrubbing with Spic-N-Span.
Went over the entire floor with a large 3M pad. This was to get of all
the grime, dirt, and general corruption the cleaning didn't get.
Wiped the floor with paint thinner.
Put small dabs of artist's Raw Sienna oil paint straight from the tube
onto a rag with some paint thinner in it and "stained' the bare spots
and scratches.
Let it dry for a couple days and put a coat of poly on it. My wife was
very pleased.

Lucky for me, Raw Sienna was a perfect match, but if it hadn't been I
would have mixed other oil colors with it on a piece of aluminum foil
and then picked it up with my rag to apply it.

Stewart


Francis wrote:

Hi all, I just begin to read your group, I do like to work on wood
project, well will love to start a wood project, this summer I should
remove paint of some old furniture, so I'l need an orbital sander ...

Anyway, my true question is, we just buy our first house, I have a
wood floor in it, which was burn by the sun in the kitchen. I don't
know how you call that in english, but the floor is made with little
strip of wood, maybe a little less then 5 inch long and the patern is
a square like patern. SO I will like to put something on the floor
that will give him is life back, I don't want to sand it. I heard of
bee wax, so will a product do a good job or will I only get a 5 day
finish unless I sand and varnish it?

THank you.




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