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Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too.
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html |
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John Grossbohlin wrote:
Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Does look like the sort of thing a "safety engineer" who's never actually _used_ one might come up with. |
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On 2009-05-15, John Grossbohlin wrote:
Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Other than being a really crappy drawing, what's yer point? nb |
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Adjusting that fence is going to be a stretch.
Art "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html |
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"Artemus" wrote in message ... Adjusting that fence is going to be a stretch. Art "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Yeah.... you'd probably get your tie stuck in the blade.... |
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"Artemus" wrote Adjusting that fence is going to be a stretch. Art Imagine using that thing with an outfeed table. |
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John Grossbohlin wrote:
Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Typical of something only the Government could come up with. Kinda reminds me of Air Force One fly over. Can't even get a simple picture of a table saw right and they're going to run health care, God help us! -- "You can lead them to LINUX but you can't make them THINK" Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586 Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/ |
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On 5/14/2009 6:06 PM John Grossbohlin spake thus:
Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Hey, dontcha know, it's one of them new back-secured fence units. Requires a 2nd worker to adjust the rip fence safely from the back. -- Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism |
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On Thu, 14 May 2009 21:06:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote: Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. My saw looked a little like that yesterday when I put the blade on backwards. Mike O. |
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On May 14, 10:30*pm, evodawg wrote:
John Grossbohlin wrote: Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...ntation/slide0... Typical of something only the Government could come up with. Kinda reminds me of Air Force One fly over. Can't even get a simple picture of a table saw right and they're going to run health care, God help us! Hmmmmmm.. That's been up there since DateTime: 2005/07/28. (Which means it was commissioned likely a couple of years prior. Artwork $ 5.00 Silliness factor $ 10.00 Failed attempt to politicize this out of sheer desperation? Priceless |
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Looks like the saw you get back after loaning it to or letting your friend
use it "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html |
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"Mike O." wrote:
My saw looked a little like that yesterday when I put the blade on backwards. That was also my first impression. Took a 2nd look to realize what was really happening. Lew |
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"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Another fine example of the government being "way in over it's head". |
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"notbob" wrote in message ... On 2009-05-15, John Grossbohlin wrote: Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Other than being a really crappy drawing, what's yer point? nb Ummmm did you notice that the fence controls are mounted on the back side of the saw? I don't know what kind of saw you have but mine has the fence control/clamping lever on the same side as the hand wheel blade control, the front side. |
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"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html If you think that is funny, click the next button. the next actual photo shows a guy cutting a thin piece of wood. The describes the what is going on in the picture, With the hand-fed table saws, the operator adjusts the height and angle of the blade. |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... It is going to be one of those days, Swingman, how did your eggs crack open this morning? If you think that is funny, click the next button. the next actual photo shows a guy cutting a thin piece of wood. The describes the what is going on in the picture, With the hand-fed table saws, the operator adjusts the height and angle of the blade. Translated and or should'a typed, If you think that is funny click the next button. The next actual photo shows a guy cutting a thin piece of wood. The description below the picture states, With the hand-fed table saws, the operator adjusts the height and angle of the blade. This time, I am going to use the excuse that I stared at the government site too long and it affected my ability to convey a message. ;~) |
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"Artemus" wrote in message ... Adjusting that fence is going to be a stretch. Art "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Ahhh, but it is much safer indeed, since with the lock down lever at the other end of the table, there is no way you can accidentally bump it with your hip as you move a piece of stock through the saw. Ingenious... -- -Mike- |
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On May 15, 8:49*am, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Ahhh, but it is much safer indeed, since with the lock down lever at the other end of the table, there is no way you can accidentally bump it with your hip as you move a piece of stock through the saw. *Ingenious... It makes way more sense with the fence adjustment in the back. I'm around back of the machine collecting the miss-cut piece before I realize it's miss-cut. How can you know it's miss-cut until _afterward_? That means on the backside of the machine. So I'm standing there at the back of the machine - often wishing I could make the adjustment for the next miss-cut from back there - I make a mental note of the amount to miss-cut for the next time, walk around to the front of the machine, forget the amount to miss-cut, and frequently why I'm walking around the machine in circles, then wander off to the refrigerator. Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? R |
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"RicodJour" wrote Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? Kolbalt? The Lowes brand has a big, expensive rolling, stainless steel tool chest. It has a stereo system and refrigerator built into it. |
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On May 15, 9:44*am, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: "RicodJour" wrote *Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? Kolbalt? *The Lowes brand has a big, expensive rolling, stainless steel tool chest. *It has a stereo system and refrigerator built into it. I saw that the other day! When it has a built in TV, a composting toilet, and a blacklight velvet Elvis, I'm buying it. R |
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On May 15, 9:44*am, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: "RicodJour" wrote *Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? Kolbalt? *The Lowes brand has a big, expensive rolling, stainless steel tool chest. *It has a stereo system and refrigerator built into it. Cool. All you need now is a mirror, some razor blades, a bong and you're ready to rebuild that 1956 Renault Dauphine. Nothing is too obscure on the Wreck. |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? Kolbalt? The Lowes brand has a big, expensive rolling, stainless steel tool chest. It has a stereo system and refrigerator built into it. Had a customer show me his. He was so proud of it. I asked why there isn't anything in it except beer. Hasn't got around to it yet. This guy is about as handy as his wife. I bought a special drill bit for his job and charged him for it. Then gave it to him and said, "now you have something to put in that big tool box". He didn't get the fact I was dissing him in my own way. -- "You can lead them to LINUX but you can't make them THINK" Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586 Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/ |
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:59:23 -0500, "Leon"
wrote: "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message om... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html If you think that is funny, click the next button. the next actual photo shows a guy cutting a thin piece of wood. The describes the what is going on in the picture, With the hand-fed table saws, the operator adjusts the height and angle of the blade. And the 3rd photo show a guy making a miter cut at some angle. I'm having a hard time seeing a miter gauge in the photo. Surely he's not making the cut free hand. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein |
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"Tom Veatch" wrote And the 3rd photo show a guy making a miter cut at some angle. I'm having a hard time seeing a miter gauge in the photo. Surely he's not making the cut free hand. Holding it in his hands would be the neander approach. |
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On May 15, 9:53*am, evodawg wrote:
Lee Michaels wrote: "RicodJour" wrote *Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? Kolbalt? *The Lowes brand has a big, expensive rolling, stainless steel tool chest. *It has a stereo system and refrigerator built into it. Had a customer show me his. He was so proud of it. I asked why there isn't anything in it except beer. Hasn't got around to it yet. This guy is about as handy as his wife. I bought a special drill bit for his job and charged him for it. Then gave it to him and said, "now you have something to put in that big tool box". He didn't get the fact I was dissing him in my own way. When you return to see complete Lie-Neilsen and Bridge City Tool Works sets in there, he'll be dissing you in his own way. ;) R |
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RicodJour wrote:
On May 15, 9:53 am, evodawg wrote: Lee Michaels wrote: "RicodJour" wrote Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? Kolbalt? The Lowes brand has a big, expensive rolling, stainless steel tool chest. It has a stereo system and refrigerator built into it. Had a customer show me his. He was so proud of it. I asked why there isn't anything in it except beer. Hasn't got around to it yet. This guy is about as handy as his wife. I bought a special drill bit for his job and charged him for it. Then gave it to him and said, "now you have something to put in that big tool box". He didn't get the fact I was dissing him in my own way. When you return to see complete Lie-Neilsen and Bridge City Tool Works sets in there, he'll be dissing you in his own way. ;) ROFL!! -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Very smart design! all the kickbacks get thrown away from you.
of course, changing the angle wasn't very well thought out... "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html |
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"John Grossbohlin" wrote:
Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Slide 20 was interesting. I never liked ripping on my RAS, but maybe I was doing it wrong. According to OSHA, the RAS is designed to cut DOWN on the wood, both in crosscut and rip cuts. All this time I had been pushing the wood into the blade, and having to use hold-downs, pawls, etc, to keep the blade from lifting the stock as it cut up. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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Leon wrote:
"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html If you think that is funny, click the next button. the next actual photo shows a guy cutting a thin piece of wood. The describes the what is going on in the picture, With the hand-fed table saws, the operator adjusts the height and angle of the blade. Picture 10 looks kinda scary to me. |
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And the 3rd photo show a guy making a miter cut at some angle. I'm
having a hard time seeing a miter gauge in the photo. Surely he's not making the cut free hand. Tom Veatch It's there. I thought so, too. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Joe wrote:
Very smart design! all the kickbacks get thrown away from you. "Self-feeding." -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message m... Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html Another fine example of the government being "way in over it's head". It was amusing, in a sad kind of way, to look through that site... quite a number of the captions, images and prescribed practices made me think they'd never actually used tools. John |
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:10:18 GMT, Nova wrote:
My saw looked a little like that yesterday when I put the blade on backwards. Mike O. How'd you move the height adjustment wheel to the back of the saw? ;-) -- If you take the four bolts off a UNI and turn the top 180, it would look just like that! ;-) Mike O. |
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RicodJour wrote:
On May 15, 9:53Â*am, evodawg wrote: Lee Michaels wrote: "RicodJour" wrote Come to think of it, does anyone have plans for installing a refrigerator in a table saw base? Kolbalt? Â*The Lowes brand has a big, expensive rolling, stainless steel tool chest. Â*It has a stereo system and refrigerator built into it. Had a customer show me his. He was so proud of it. I asked why there isn't anything in it except beer. Hasn't got around to it yet. This guy is about as handy as his wife. I bought a special drill bit for his job and charged him for it. Then gave it to him and said, "now you have something to put in that big tool box". He didn't get the fact I was dissing him in my own way. When you return to see complete Lie-Neilsen and Bridge City Tool Works sets in there, he'll be dissing you in his own way. ;) R Not likely, mention that name and he'd think you were talking about some new German or Scandinavian Beer. But nice try anyway. ;P -- "You can lead them to LINUX but you can't make them THINK" Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586 Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/ |
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On Thu, 14 May 2009 21:06:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote: Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html OSHA is a mess. |
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Phisherman wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2009 21:06:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin" wrote: Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html OSHA is a mess. But people still think government is the answer for all our problems. The same kind of bureaucrats running OSHA are going to be running your health care if that goes through. They are already running two of the US car companies doing such brilliant things as cutting Chrysler's ad budget in 1/2 and shutting down 1000's of dealerships, many of which have been quite profitable while leaving a number that were doing poorly open. Why is it with so many examples of screwing things up so badly are people so @#$%'d willing to turn even more responsibility over to them? -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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"Phisherman" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2009 21:06:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin" wrote: Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html OSHA is a mess. The only thing I ever learned from OSHA is "Don't drink the whiteout." P D Q |
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
Phisherman wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009 21:06:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin" wrote: Look at the drawing of this saw carefully... posted ABPW too. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/wood...n/slide01.html OSHA is a mess. But people still think government is the answer for all our problems. The same kind of bureaucrats running OSHA are going to be running your health care if that goes through. They are already running two of the US car companies doing such brilliant things as cutting Chrysler's ad budget in 1/2 and shutting down 1000's of dealerships, many of which have been quite profitable while leaving a number that were doing poorly open. Why is it with so many examples of screwing things up so badly are people so @#$%'d willing to turn even more responsibility over to them? Good point. Chrysler was doing so well before government stepped in and forced them to take taxpayer money. If the feds had only kept their money rather than forcing it on Chrysler, Chrysler would be thriving by now. I don't like the idea of gov't running businesses, but if they are going to provide capital, it should not be to prop up the status quo that put the company in need of that gov't money. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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"alexy" wrote:
If the feds had only kept their money rather than forcing it on Chrysler, Chrysler would be thriving by now. Think if you dig a little deeper you will find Nardelli was brought in to be the front man for a hedge fund whose primary goal was to get the credit arm of Chrysler and unload or bleed dry the manufacturing side of Chrysler, then write it off. Lew |
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