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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
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For benchtop planers the 735 is the gold standard (IMNSHO). I am no
fan of Dewalt generally but on this unit they nailed it.


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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


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On Feb 9, 10:35*am, "CC" wrote:
I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


I bought the 22-580 and I am very pleased with it. The lock-down anti-
snipe feature works well and the unit has tons of power (for a
'portable'). The dust chute is very effective as well. With a fresh
set of properly sharpened blades, and on the 'finish' setting, bird's-
eye maple came out pretty smooth.
It is too heavy to be called portable, really, so if you're thinking
of stashing it under the work-bench and casually flipping it on
top...think again.
The limited experience I have had with the DeWalt at a buddy's shop,
it worked fine, but nothing stood out as desirable over the 580.
I would buy the Delta again.

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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


I've seen the DeWalt 735's at Lowe's for about $650, so if you've got one
around it might be worth a look.

I'm planning on buying the 735 when I get a planer, but a dust collector
w/ cyclone and high CFM air compressor will probably come first.

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That's good news. I haven't had a chance to try that unit and I like
to see Delta is making good stuff.


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On Feb 9, 10:35*am, "CC" wrote:

I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


I bought the 22-580 and I am very pleased with it. The lock-down anti-
snipe feature works well and the unit has tons of power (for a
'portable'). The dust chute is very effective as well. With a fresh
set of properly sharpened blades, and on the 'finish' setting, bird's-
eye maple came out pretty smooth.
It is too heavy to be called portable, really, so if you're thinking
of stashing it under the work-bench and casually flipping it on
top...think again.
The limited experience I have had with the DeWalt at a buddy's shop,
it worked fine, but nothing stood out as desirable over the 580.
I would buy the Delta again.

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CC wrote:
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comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735

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Looks like if you decide on the Delta to go ahead and do so would be
wise -- it seems to be discontinued w/ only the TP305 on the current PC
web site. Which seems to be a step backwards as it is listed as
12-1/2", not 13".

I really don't have any recommendations on the portables; I'm still
using the old Rockwell Delta Model 13...(and _STILL_ kicking myself I
didn't buy the PM 180 from my buddy in Lynchburg when we moved up to the
big boy years ago--but $800 seemed like a lot of $$$ back then!).

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Why not go ahead and get the real thing for
a couple hundred more ???

Those lunch bucket planers do a neat job
but are not built for the long haul.

I have both and when you step up to the
cast iron, you don't ever wonder why you
spent the extra money.

Delta,Powermatic,Jet and Grizzly all have
very similar products. I think most of them
are built in the same plant in China.


CC wrote:
I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC

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On Feb 9, 10:35*am, "CC" wrote:
I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


Do yourself a favor and buy a DeWalt DW733. Only two knives, but the
knives on the 733 can be sharpened. On the 735 they can't.

There's a new one for sale right now on eBay.

I've had this model for a long time now and I love it.
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It is too heavy to be called portable, really, so if you're thinking
of stashing it under the work-bench and casually flipping it on
top...think again.


It's about 90lbs. Not impossible to move, but not something you'd do
"casually".

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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC



Something to think about, That is a LOT of money for a lunch box planer,
the DeWalt.. For $300 more you can get a Grizzley 15" stationary planer,
built in mobility, and under mount motor shipped for free and that planer
would probably be the only planer you will ever need to buy.

http://grizzley.com/products/15-Planer/G0453




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On Feb 9, 10:35 am, "CC" wrote:
I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


I bought the 22-580 and I am very pleased with it. The lock-down anti-
snipe feature works well and the unit has tons of power (for a
'portable'). The dust chute is very effective as well. With a fresh
set of properly sharpened blades, and on the 'finish' setting, bird's-
eye maple came out pretty smooth.
It is too heavy to be called portable, really, so if you're thinking
of stashing it under the work-bench and casually flipping it on
top...think again.
The limited experience I have had with the DeWalt at a buddy's shop,
it worked fine, but nothing stood out as desirable over the 580.
I would buy the Delta again.

my 2 cents worth.

For the price, I'd rather have the Delta, but not if it's not going to
hold up
How long have you had yours? and how well has it held up.
I had really thought about the Delta, but had read a lot recent of
reviews
saying the machine was not holding up very well over a year of use
There were problems with the DeWalt when it first came out but the
newer
writings I found on it indicates their problems have been fixed.
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Why not go ahead and get the real thing for
a couple hundred more ???

Those lunch bucket planers do a neat job
but are not built for the long haul.

I have both and when you step up to the
cast iron, you don't ever wonder why you
spent the extra money.

Delta,Powermatic,Jet and Grizzly all have
very similar products. I think most of them
are built in the same plant in China.


I'd love to be able to get one of the floor units,
but the cost of them is beyond me. The DeWalt
will be the max I can go and am more comfortable with
the price of the Delta. I do want something better than
the Ryobi and Ridgid TP1300
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CC wrote:
I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


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On Feb 9, 10:35 am, "CC" wrote:
I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


Do yourself a favor and buy a DeWalt DW733. Only two knives, but the
knives on the 733 can be sharpened. On the 735 they can't.

There's a new one for sale right now on eBay.

I've had this model for a long time now and I love it.

Thanks Gus,
I was watching a Delta on ebay but it went over what I
wanted to spend on a used one. I'll watch that one for a bit
to see how far it goes up, but am not sure if I want that model
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"CC" wrote in message
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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC



Something to think about, That is a LOT of money for a lunch box
planer, the DeWalt.. For $300 more you can get a Grizzley 15"
stationary planer, built in mobility, and under mount motor shipped
for free and that planer would probably be the only planer you will
ever need to buy.

http://grizzley.com/products/15-Planer/G0453


Thanks Leon, I looked at the grizzleys and would love one, but it is
beyond
what I can spend, The DeWalt is right at that point too, and is
stretching it a little
but I am worried about how the Delta is holding up over time for
people
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I bought a Delta 22-580 in June of '04. I'm on my third set of double sided
knives. No complaints and no problems..

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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC



Something to think about, That is a LOT of money for a lunch box planer,
the DeWalt.. For $300 more you can get a Grizzley 15" stationary planer,
built in mobility, and under mount motor shipped for free and that
planer would probably be the only planer you will ever need to buy.

http://grizzley.com/products/15-Planer/G0453


Thanks Leon, I looked at the grizzleys and would love one, but it is
beyond
what I can spend, The DeWalt is right at that point too, and is stretching
it a little
but I am worried about how the Delta is holding up over time for people
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Thanks Jim,
that is great to hear, I had really wanted to get the Delta, as it was
right
in my price range. but hadn't heard too much about how it was holding
up,
other than old reviews,
CC


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I bought a Delta 22-580 in June of '04. I'm on my third set of
double sided knives. No complaints and no problems..

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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is
$650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing
really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


Something to think about, That is a LOT of money for a lunch box
planer, the DeWalt.. For $300 more you can get a Grizzley 15"
stationary planer, built in mobility, and under mount motor
shipped for free and that planer would probably be the only planer
you will ever need to buy.

http://grizzley.com/products/15-Planer/G0453


Thanks Leon, I looked at the grizzleys and would love one, but it
is beyond
what I can spend, The DeWalt is right at that point too, and is
stretching it a little
but I am worried about how the Delta is holding up over time for
people
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I got the Delta about 3 years ago, and have used it quite a lot over
the past 2 years. I reversed the blades once, not hard, and it does a
good job. It needs a good vacuuming now and then, as excess shavings
can plug the speed selector. The "funnell" that collects to the dust
collector works "OK", but not 100%. I have it mounted on a dedicated
table as I don't consider it portable. I would buy another one if
needed.

Hope this helps.....
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I just bought the Ridgid R4330 on sale 200 off. Ran about 20 feet of board
through it seems nice so far



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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC



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I have both the Delta DC-380 15"
and the 22-560 12 1/2" planer.

The 22-560 has just about wore out the
rollers. They can not be replaced since
the planer is out of production.

It has seen a several thousand linear feet
of lumber. It has a very clean cut but
it's still a fairly light weight planer.

If you can't afford the 15" Grizzly,
get the better version of the Delta in
my opinion.


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I'd love to be able to get one of the floor units,
but the cost of them is beyond me. The DeWalt
will be the max I can go and am more comfortable with
the price of the Delta. I do want something better than
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LOL, did you think that there could possibly be any other out come after
only 20'? Get back with us after say a few thousand linear feet.

Now having said all that I originally bought a Ryobi AP10 planer in 1989
IIRC, it was the first of it's kind. I finally retired it 3 years ago and
got a 15" stationary Delta. If I were to buy a portable again, I'd get the
one you bought. You simply can't beat the warranty.




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I am getting ready to buy a new planer, first one
Have been looking at all the reviews I can find
along with Google searches and would like any
comments from the group about the Delta
22-580 and the DeWalt 735
The Delta I can find for $475 with shipping and the DeWalt is $650
shipping extra.The Delta seems to have problems with wearing really
fast, The DeWalt seems to have it's problems fixed. or at
least from what I am reading now, Both seem work well
Is the DeWalt worth the extra money, and is it hold up
better than the Delta
Any thoughts appreciated
CC


I see the Dewalt DW735 reconditioned on Tool King fairly often for
around $440. Last time I almost bit it was $435 with $9 shipping. I do
see that it is out of stock at the moment.

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Do yourself a favor and buy a DeWalt DW733. Only two knives, but the
knives on the 733 can be sharpened. On the 735 they can't.

There's a new one for sale right now on eBay.

I've had this model for a long time now and I love it.

Thanks Gus,
I was watching a Delta on ebay but it went over what I
wanted to spend on a used one. I'll watch that one for a bit
to see how far it goes up, but am not sure if I want that model
CC


I bought the 733 floor model at Woodcraft when the 735 came out, for
about 250. I have no idea how many board feet I've run through it any
more but I've had both sets of blades sharpened and had to bring it in
for repair once. Found out I've got an authorized shop here in town and
they found a loose connection in the motor assembly, resoldered it(!)
and charged me fifty bucks.

I love this little planer, plastic vacuum port and all.
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that is great to hear, I had really wanted to get the Delta, as it was
right
in my price range. but hadn't heard too much about how it was holding up,
other than old reviews,
CC


You might want to look at http://toolcritic.com/12-13in-planers.html.

From this it looks like the Dewalt comes in first, which most here
seemed to recommend as well. The Delta came in I think 8th. My guess
is they are both very close because everyone here seems to like what
they have.

Myself, I don't own a planer but a few months ago I was perusing Craigs
list locally and their was a 20" Northsomething industrial planer with a
5 hp 220 motor, 5 years old for $1000... I wanted it but didn't go for
it and it has been bothering me ever since...The same place had other
stuff for sale so obviously they were going out of business...

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Myself, I don't own a planer but a few months ago I was perusing Craigs
list locally and their was a 20" Northsomething industrial planer with a 5
hp 220 motor, 5 years old for $1000... I wanted it but didn't go for it
and it has been bothering me ever since...The same place had other stuff
for sale so obviously they were going out of business...



Probably Northfield.
http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com...erSurfacer.pdf


Their cheap No.2, 18" surfacer goes for over $16,000.00. the current next
size up is 25" and for about $25,000.00.

I think their stuff is built to last forever in a factory setting.

http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com...elist-2007.pdf


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CC wrote:


Myself, I don't own a planer but a few months ago I was perusing Craigs
list locally and their was a 20" Northsomething industrial planer with a 5
hp 220 motor, 5 years old for $1000... ...


Probably Northfield.
http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com...erSurfacer.pdf


Their cheap No.2, 18" surfacer goes for over $16,000.00. the current next
size up is 25" and for about $25,000.00.

....

For the price I seriously doubt it was Northfield. More likely one of
the North State something like

http://www.leneavesupply.com/Machinery/NorthState/P04027.aspx

would be my guess.

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CC wrote:


Myself, I don't own a planer but a few months ago I was perusing Craigs
list locally and their was a 20" Northsomething industrial planer with a
5 hp 220 motor, 5 years old for $1000... ...


Probably Northfield.
http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com...erSurfacer.pdf


Their cheap No.2, 18" surfacer goes for over $16,000.00. the current
next size up is 25" and for about $25,000.00.

...

For the price I seriously doubt it was Northfield. More likely one of the
North State something like

http://www.leneavesupply.com/Machinery/NorthState/P04027.aspx

would be my guess.



For Jack's sake I hope you are right. LOL


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Myself, I don't own a planer but a few months ago I was perusing Craigs
list locally and their was a 20" Northsomething industrial planer with a
5 hp 220 motor, 5 years old for $1000... ...


Probably Northfield.
http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com...erSurfacer.pdf


Their cheap No.2, 18" surfacer goes for over $16,000.00. the current
next size up is 25" and for about $25,000.00.


For the price I seriously doubt it was Northfield. More likely one of the
North State something like


http://www.leneavesupply.com/Machinery/NorthState/P04027.aspx
would be my guess.


For Jack's sake I hope you are right. LOL


Leon had me in a panic for a sec. but I recall looking up the price and
it was no where near the price of a Northfield... I think it was around
$5000 new, but thats a vague recollection. It did look a lot like the
Northstate 20" planer so my guess is thats exactly what it was. It
looked like a great planer to me, but like so many great deals, I just
let it go bye...instead of buy... I think it weighed over 400 lbs so it
would have been tough getting it on and off my truck in one piece...
yeah, thats why I passed it up.

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looked like a great planer to me, but like so many great deals, I just
let it go bye...instead of buy... I think it weighed over 400 lbs so it
would have been tough getting it on and off my truck in one piece...
yeah, thats why I passed it up.


I hear ya'... (or, maybe is more apropos)

I posted in another similar thread not long ago of the chance years ago
to pick up the Powermatic Model 180 18" planer for $800 from shop when
upgraded and have been kicking self/regretting decision ever since...

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