I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder

On Dec 1, 8:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

Remove the baseplate and make your own out of 1/4" plywood. Use the
baseplate as a template for the hole locations.


-Kevin

"Dick Snyder" wrote
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as
the trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router
table with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on
three scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a
wheel. Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit
with some kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardwa.../dp/B00004T7P1

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wrote in message
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On Dec 1, 8:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making
for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a
book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as
the
trammel.

Remove the baseplate and make your own out of 1/4" plywood. Use the
baseplate as a template for the hole locations.


-Kevin

Thanks Kevin. That can work. I have some 1/8" and 1/4" tempered hardboard
(Masonite) that is nice and slippery. I will try that.

Dick

"Swingman" wrote in message
news


"Dick Snyder" wrote
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making
for my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a
book called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that
suggests a couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as
the trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router
table with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on
three scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come
a wheel. Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router
bit with some kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not
tried either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would
check with this group to see what you would recommend.

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardwa.../dp/B00004T7P1

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

No bandsaw yet unfortunately...... :-(

"Swingman" wrote in message
news


"Dick Snyder" wrote
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making
for my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a
book called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that
suggests a couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as
the trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router
table with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on
three scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come
a wheel. Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router
bit with some kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not
tried either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would
check with this group to see what you would recommend.

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardwa.../dp/B00004T7P1

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

I just followed your link. The device you referred to is a hole cutter that
goes into a drill press. I do have a drill press but I have not had great
luck with a hole cutter in thick hard wood like the 3/4" oak I am using for
this toy.

I just followed your link. The device you referred to is a hole cutter that
goes into a drill press. I do have a drill press but I have not had great
luck with a hole cutter in thick hard wood like the 3/4" oak I am using for
this toy.


I think it was a brainfart. I giggled for a a couple minutes when I
opened that link.
I thought, "I'd like like to see that thing installed on a bandsaw." :-)

Anyway.....
Is 5-1/2" negotiable?
You'd be surprised what you might have laying around the shop that is
close to that diameter that you could use as a template for a bearing
guide bit in the router table.


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"Swingman" wrote:

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

Make that a drill press and slow as you go.

My former landlord did it every day with an old Craftsman drill press
in 11 ply Birch ply stock.

Clamp blanks to D/P table, make sure bit is sharp and go S-L-O-W.


Have fun.

Lew

"Dick Snyder" wrote in message
...
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as
the trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router
table with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on
three scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a
wheel. Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit
with some kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder
Near perfect (close enough for a toy wheel) results can be achieved by
taking a compass and drawing out your wheel or wheels. Using what ever saw
is handy try to cut the wheel out as close to the lines as possible, the
wheel does not have to be round at this point just no square edges, 12 or
more edges are preferable. Drill a 1/4 inch in the center of the wheel and
place a #2 Phillips head screw driver through it, I like to do 4 or more
wheels at one time. Now place the wheels on a belt sander so that the
wheels are upright and the screwdriver is perpendicular to the direction of
the moving belt, warning they will move quickly at this point, now turn the
screwdriver at an angle to the direction of the belt until the wheels are
spinning at a speed that is comfortable to you. Sand wheels until the are
round then turn the whole set 180 degrees and do it again. You will have a
near round wheel with sanded edges and a slight crown, I did them this way
before the fly cutter and the band saw came into my life and still do them
this way to clean up the edges. The spinning wheels do get hot so do not
let them come into contact with the plastic screwdriver head, they will not
get to hot for you to hold with your thumb or fingers just warm so be
careful. You can use a drum sander to do this but I find the belt sander a
lot easier.

"Swingman" wrote

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardwa.../dp/B00004T7P1


Uhhhhhh.........., Swingman, could you post a picture of that thing
installed on a bandsaw?

And maybe a video on its safe operation??

(It might work better on a drill press)

Dick Snyder wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder


Or you can buy a 5 1/2" hole saw. I have used sweet sawdust's sanding
method with success. I also have mounted a cut out wheel on a carriage
bolt of appropriate size. Thread a nut down and tighten on the wheel.
Mount it in a drill press, spin slowly, and hold a rasp or sandpaper to
it.
sweet jo4hn

"Dick Snyder" wrote

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardwa.../dp/B00004T7P1

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

I just followed your link. The device you referred to is a hole cutter
that goes into a drill press. I do have a drill press but I have not had
great luck with a hole cutter in thick hard wood like the 3/4" oak I am
using for this toy.

Yeah, that would be kind of hard to use on a bandsaw! Sorry about that ... I
certainly meant drill press. Been doing that too much lately.

I've not any trouble using my General fly cutter in oak. The trick is a
combination of DP speed and sharpness of the tool. Since my shop is no
longer on the premises, I can't run out and look, but if it becomes
something you are forced to consider, I do have the settings marked down, so
just holler back.

Good luck ...

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Lee Michaels" wrote
"Swingman" wrote

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardwa.../dp/B00004T7P1


Uhhhhhh.........., Swingman, could you post a picture of that thing
installed on a bandsaw?

And maybe a video on its safe operation??

(It might work better on a drill press)

Jeeezzzus ... you guys sound like SWMBO!!

Hey, it's taken 60+ years, but there is finally some fallibility creeping
in.

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

In article ,
Dick Snyder wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

...snipped...
.... Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.


Believe it or not there is a simply made jig for the tablesaw that will
create perfect circles. You can find several examples by googling
for "table saw circle cutting jig" or something similar. Here's one
with some nice pictures I just found:

http://metalcast.boorman.us/circles.html

--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

"Larry W" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dick Snyder wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

...snipped...
.... Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.


Believe it or not there is a simply made jig for the tablesaw that will
create perfect circles. You can find several examples by googling
for "table saw circle cutting jig" or something similar. Here's one
with some nice pictures I just found:

http://metalcast.boorman.us/circles.html

--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

I'll be darned. That gets the prize for the most unique solution to my
problem. Well, I have been given lots of options by the group as usual. I
will report back after I do the wheels today to let everyone know what
worked best.

On Dec 1, 5:49*pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory *baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder

How about making a template and using a bearing guide?
I've done it a lot..works great

i82much wrote:
On Dec 1, 5:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder

How about making a template and using a bearing guide?
I've done it a lot..works great

I have used a router on a table to cut circles. However be very careful
on how you feed it into the bit. I was not thinking once and never did
find the top piece of the bit. At least it did not hit anything valuable.

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:49:48 GMT, "Dick Snyder"
wrote:

Dick..
A] Nothing is perfect, even when I do it.. ;-]

B] I had to cut several 6" circles a few years back.. about 3/4" larger than
my fly-cutter would go..
I ended up fastening a piece of pegboard, about 6" x 12" to my router, using the
existing holes in the base plate and using one of the holes in the peg board for
the pivot point.. worked great for me but might not fit your application..

I've seen folks use the Dremel routing jig for that too, but I don't think you
want to try that with 3/4" stock.. lol

Another old trick is to cut them oversize on the band saw and make a simple jig
on a disk sander to both round and size them.. Sort of a V-block with stops..

I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder



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"Dick Snyder" wrote:

I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

I made the adjustable trammel described in Hynton's _Router Magic_ and
the latest edition of the book you have. It is a tear-drop shaped
replacement for your router base, which has a t-groove to accept a
stick containing the trammel point. It would have no problem with your
task. You would need to tack or double-stick tape your workpiece to a
waste backer board, but it should work well.
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You just need the "correct jig"

http://www.woodcraft.com/product.asp...&FamilyID=3582

Dick Snyder wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel.

"i82much" wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 5:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as
the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router
table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a
wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with
some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder

How about making a template and using a bearing guide?
I've done it a lot..works great

The template idea had occurred to me but I would still be left with the
problem of how to make a perfect template.

"Pat Barber" wrote in message
...
You just need the "correct jig"

http://www.woodcraft.com/product.asp...&FamilyID=3582

Dick Snyder wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making
for my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel.

Huh. It figures that you could buy a jig for this!

"Larry W" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dick Snyder wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

...snipped...
.... Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.


Believe it or not there is a simply made jig for the tablesaw that will
create perfect circles. You can find several examples by googling
for "table saw circle cutting jig" or something similar. Here's one
with some nice pictures I just found:

http://metalcast.boorman.us/circles.html

--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

Thanks all for your help. This group is the greatest! I went with the
tablesaw jig. You have to make a LOT of passes to get a very round circle
but it does work. If I were to do this again, I would probably go with one
of the router ideas but for 4 wheels, it isn't that big a deal. I have saved
all of your ideas for the future in case I go heavy into the circle making
business!!

"Dick Snyder" wrote in message
all of your ideas for the future in case I go heavy into the circle making
business!!

Thinking of going into the Merry-Go-Round business?

On Dec 1, 8:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder


you can also make a crosscut sled for a table saw (a useful item
anyway). Then, drill a hole through the center of your stock, and
screw it into the sled 5.5 inshed from the blade. Take the corners off
first, and then crefully rotate the stock. I've seen it done in a
video, but I forget where.
You can either make the rest of the wheels that way, or you can use
the wheel as a template for a flush trim router bit (use double-stick
tape)
You can also make a blank out of masonite
shelly

You have a year or two on me, but my standard disclaimer is now, its
not my fault if you didn't understand what I thought I meant to say.

Mike M


On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:30:13 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

"Lee Michaels" wrote
"Swingman" wrote

If you have a bandsaw, a fly cutter will do the trick:

http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardwa.../dp/B00004T7P1


Uhhhhhh.........., Swingman, could you post a picture of that thing
installed on a bandsaw?

And maybe a video on its safe operation??

(It might work better on a drill press)

Jeeezzzus ... you guys sound like SWMBO!!

Hey, it's taken 60+ years, but there is finally some fallibility creeping
in.

REAL MEN Do it on a router table.


Cut four square blanks 5-5/8 on TS
Drill pivot holes in centers of each
Scribe Circle 5-5/8 circumference on each face
Cut / remove waste Jigsaw / Sander
Mount Pivot Pin in Miter Bar
Mount Mitre Bar w/pin in Router table (You must be able to "lock" the
bar in place)
Mount best router bit
Mount first blank and, with mitre bar loose, rotate piece to find a
good starting place for cut
Repeat with each blank until you find place the works for largest
dimension on any blank.
Fix pivot point/mitre bar at that location
Cut all four blanks
Adjust pivot point
Cut all four blanks
Adjust pivot point
Cut all four blanks
Replace router bit with small sanding drum
Adjust pivot point
Sand all four blanks

If you want bottoms of wheels rounded, switch from straight bit to
cove bit after initial sizing and mount each finished "wheel" in drill
press and finish sand them there.



Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

"Hoosierpopi" bragged

REAL MEN Do it on a router table.


You must have one of those aircraft carrier router tables.

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:12:27 -0800 (PST), Hoosierpopi
wrote:

REAL MEN Do it on a router table.

REAL men use their teeth and intimidate the wood into being round..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:31:21 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:12:27 -0800 (PST), Hoosierpopi
wrote:

REAL MEN Do it on a router table.


Real men probably don't feel the need to brag about where they do it.
g


....I'm with you, man...buy the hole saw, get perfect circles, save
mucho time.

cg

"Charlie Groh" wrote:

...I'm with you, man...buy the hole saw, get perfect circles, save
mucho time.

Price out a 5-1/2" hole saw and then a fly cutter.

Might make a different suggestion.

Lew

Price out a 5-1/2" hole saw and then a fly cutter.

Might make a different suggestion.

Lew


Or a Woodpecker.
We were living in the house we were finishing, and we hadn't sided the
gable ends, one of which was the extension of our bedroom wall. I was
awakened to the sound of a mini jackhammer on the outside of the house.
By the time I threw on some clothes and wandered outside, the little guy
was finishing up his own access hole into the attic.

I climbed over the scaffolding and saw a perfect circle cut into the
sheathing.
And I mean perfect, I got a tape and measured it... remarkably accurate.

So, I tacked up some sheet metal over the hole to keep him out.
Next morning, about 6am.... BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!


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On Dec 1, 8:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder

OK, I tried it out.
Make a crosscut sled for your table saw, if you don't already have
one. Cut your stock to size, and drill axle holes in the center. Make
sure you have some bolts the same exact diameter as the holes.

Take a piece of 3/8 plywood, and countersink a bolt through it, so
that you can bold the wheel to the plywood, and wtill have it turn
freely. (I did this to avoid drilling holes in the sled.)

Cut the plywood so that the countersunk bolt is exactly 5.5 inches
from the blade. use a clamp to hold the position of the plywood, for
the next wheel.

First, used the sled to take off the corners of the wheel. As it
rounds out, start spinning the wheel. Hold the wheel securely, and
don't try to take off too mych at once (move the sled so that a little
of the wheel is done at one time.

I did it for a round clock, it worked like a charm. Of course, ruined
the piece trying to use a roundover bit on the front. I may try to use
the table saw for that as well!

good luck

shelly

Or a Woodpecker.




Now, if you can only get him in your tool drawer . . .

On Dec 3, 10:19*pm, wrote:
On Dec 1, 8:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:


" I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak"

"Cut the plywood so that the countersunk bolt is exactly 5.5 inches
from the blade." shelly

Shelly, Shell, Shelly,

2.75" from the blade! And, watch your fingers!

wrote:
Or a Woodpecker.



Now, if you can only get him in your tool drawer . . .


I wouldn't want a woodpecker in my drawers. I'm just sayin'...


Too........many........jokes.........can't........ .compute...........



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On Dec 4, 10:19 am, Hoosierpopi wrote:
On Dec 3, 10:19 pm, wrote:

On Dec 1, 8:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:

" I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak"

"Cut the plywood so that the countersunk bolt is exactly 5.5 inches
from the blade." shelly

Shelly, Shell, Shelly,

2.75" from the blade! And, watch your fingers!

point take (I'm an idiot sometimes)

I stood on the side of the saw, kept one hand on the bolt, and turned
from the other side. I've learned respect for a TS the hard way.

shelly

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:04:28 +0000, MIKE- wrote
(in article ):

Price out a 5-1/2" hole saw and then a fly cutter.

Might make a different suggestion.

Lew


Or a Woodpecker.
We were living in the house we were finishing, and we hadn't sided the
gable ends, one of which was the extension of our bedroom wall. I was
awakened to the sound of a mini jackhammer on the outside of the house.
By the time I threw on some clothes and wandered outside, the little guy
was finishing up his own access hole into the attic.

I climbed over the scaffolding and saw a perfect circle cut into the
sheathing.
And I mean perfect, I got a tape and measured it... remarkably accurate.

So, I tacked up some sheet metal over the hole to keep him out.
Next morning, about 6am.... BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!-BAM!


I'm wondering if there's a market for a little trammel/harness with
micrometer adjustment so this can be exploited properly.
An on/off switch incorporating a rectal electrode would be essential, and
maybe with frequency modulation we could persuade the little fellah to work
on variable speeds. Different beak profiles.. hmmm....

After use he could plugged into a charger unit full of chocolate-coated ants
or pizza or whatever, ready for the next day.

I don't see any problems with any of that. None at all...

wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 8:49 pm, "Dick Snyder" wrote:
I need to cut four 5 1/2" wheels out of 3/4" oak for a toy I am making
for
my grandson. The size is too small for a router and trammel. I have a
book
called Woodworking with the Router by Hylton and Matlock that suggests a
couple of ways to do this.

1. Drive a pivot hole in the factory baseplate and use the baseplate as
the
trammel.

2. Do it on a router table. Affix a piece of scrap wood to the router
table
with a hole in it for the bit to come through. Install a pivot on three
scrap wood and drill a hole in the piece of wood that will be come a
wheel.
Place the blank over the pivot and turn it against the router bit with
some
kind of pusher to keep your fingers clear.

I kind of hate to drill a hole in my router baseplate but I have not
tried
either method. Before I launch off into something I thought I would check
with this group to see what you would recommend.

TIA.

Dick Snyder


you can also make a crosscut sled for a table saw (a useful item
anyway). Then, drill a hole through the center of your stock, and
screw it into the sled 5.5 inshed from the blade. Take the corners off
first, and then crefully rotate the stock. I've seen it done in a
video, but I forget where.
You can either make the rest of the wheels that way, or you can use
the wheel as a template for a flush trim router bit (use double-stick
tape)
You can also make a blank out of masonite
shelly

I have a cross cut sled already but didn't want to make holes in it so I
essentially made a second one based on this idea as reported earlier by
Larry W

http://metalcast.boorman.us/circles.html

This cross cut sled has a number of holes in it so you can make different
diameter circles. That is what I ended up using to do the wheels. Lots of
passes but they came out fine.

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
...
"Charlie Groh" wrote:

...I'm with you, man...buy the hole saw, get perfect circles, save
mucho time.

Price out a 5-1/2" hole saw and then a fly cutter.

Might make a different suggestion.

Lew




I was in Lowes recently and took a look at hole saws even though I went with
the approach mentioned at this website. Those hole saws are VERY expensive.

http://metalcast.boorman.us/circles.html