How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because NJ is just too cold. I need to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? Space is at a premium. I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

If you can make room for it, look for a 55 gal drum stove kit (you provide
the drum) it burns wood scraps, only runs when you want and in a small space
could throw more heat then you loose.

AndrewV
"KIMOSABE" wrote in message
...
My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because NJ is just too cold. I need to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? Space is at a premium. I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

KIMOSABE wrote:
....
I may be asking for the impossible.
....
I'd start w/ some insulation -- whether it's solid foam on the
walls/ceiling if there's not stud space or whatever you need to do.
Then, at least you're not just trying to heat the whole eastern seaboard.

Then, a reasonably small propane or other heater (preferably vented,
outside air if this is a wood shop and particularly if use volatile
finishes) will be all needed.

--

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

"AndrewV" wrote

If you can make room for it, look for a 55 gal drum stove kit (you provide
the drum) it burns wood scraps, only runs when you want and in a small
space could throw more heat then you loose.

I did that in my last shop. They 55 gallon drums were too big. But a friend
was able to get me two 30 gallon drums. They worked just fine. It was a
double barrel stove. That thing put out so much heat that you could use the
shop for a sauna if you wanted to.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

KIMOSABE wrote:
My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because NJ is just too cold. I need to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? Space is at a premium. I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

In the past the "Modine Hot Dawg" heater have had some good reports in
this news group. They come in both natural gas and propane models. The
HD-30 which is rated for a 1 - 1.5 car garage would be more than enough
and runs about $500. See:

http://www.gas-space-heater.com/modine-hot-dawg.html

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

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"KIMOSABE" wrote in message
...
My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because NJ is just too cold. I need to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? Space is at a premium. I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

more puppies? one can never have too many puppies, at least until they grow
up.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

I have two kerosene heaters.

This type is good for long, sustained, even heat.
It'll have you shedding layers in no time.
http://www.yourheater.com/dh2304.jpg

This type is good for heating a place up, right quick.
But it's noisy, so it's not too good for sustained heating,
and you wouldn't want to have anything set in front of it accidentally.
http://www.yourheater.com/images/DFA45-2004.jpg


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first insulate the shop ,then buy an infered heating element for a twenty lb
propane tank.With this you will be able to work in short sleves even in the
coldest day.



Len


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Infered.... hee hee. Without implying anything, I inferred he meant
infrared.

jc



"Len" wrote in message
...
first insulate the shop ,then buy an infered heating element for a twenty
lb propane tank.With this you will be able to work in short sleves even in
the coldest day.



Len

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How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

"KIMOSABE" wrote in message
...
My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because NJ is just too cold. I need to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? Space is at a premium. I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Insulating would probably be cheaper than burnings tons of fuel.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

Subject

Insulate first.

Without it, it's like pushing on a rope.

Lew

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

KIMOSABE wrote:
My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because NJ is just too cold. I need
to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that
was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? Space is at a premium. I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

For a rough estimate of how much heater you need you might want to run
the calculator at
http://www.heater-store.com/heater_calculator_info.htm. Note that
with good insulation you need a _lot_ less heat.

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on 11/19/2008 4:14 PM Lew Hodgett said the following:
Subject

Insulate first.

Without it, it's like pushing on a rope.

Lew




Said George Burns when asked if still had sex.

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Thanks for everything.

I got the message = insulate. OK, I will.

I know those barrel heaters are great, but I just don't have the room
to consider even a small one. For space/cost/btu's, the heater I've
ordered the propane unit suggested by Len. I never saw one of these
before.
http://www.heatershop.com/propane_infrared_heaters.html

As to pushing on a rope, someone once asked Bob Hope if there was sex
after seventy. He said yes, and that he particularly enjoyed the one
in the spring.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

KIMOSABE wrote:
Thanks for everything.

I got the message = insulate. OK, I will.

I know those barrel heaters are great, but I just don't have the room
to consider even a small one. For space/cost/btu's, the heater I've
ordered the propane unit suggested by Len. I never saw one of these
before.
http://www.heatershop.com/propane_infrared_heaters.html

As to pushing on a rope, someone once asked Bob Hope if there was sex
after seventy. He said yes, and that he particularly enjoyed the one
in the spring.

This type of heater works well to provide heat. Moisture is a byproduct
of combustion. With an unvented heater you may run into
condensation/rust problems. Be on the lookout for it.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:25:14 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

KIMOSABE wrote:
My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because NJ is just too cold. I need
to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that
was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? Space is at a premium. I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

For a rough estimate of how much heater you need you might want to run
the calculator at
http://www.heater-store.com/heater_calculator_info.htm. Note that
with good insulation you need a _lot_ less heat.

--

Evan a little bit of insulation makes a big difference ;-)

I had an outside shop (electronics in those days, not woodwoorking)
that was 8x10 with insulated walls and ceiling and very little
leakage. I used a 1250 watt electric heater (with a wall thermostat)
and was comfortable when the outside temperature was 30 degrees (a
little better than the calculator indicates).

John

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

"KIMOSABE" wrote in message
...
Thanks for everything.

I got the message = insulate. OK, I will.

I know those barrel heaters are great, but I just don't have the room
to consider even a small one. For space/cost/btu's, the heater I've
ordered the propane unit suggested by Len. I never saw one of these
before.
http://www.heatershop.com/propane_infrared_heaters.html

As to pushing on a rope, someone once asked Bob Hope if there was sex
after seventy. He said yes, and that he particularly enjoyed the one
in the spring.

I used a similar heater in a 16x24 uninsulated shop (in Arkansas) and it was
more than warm enough when the temps were in the 20's

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

INSULATE
I use those interlocking rubber mats and noted it helps keep my feet
from freezing (concrete floor) in addition to the comfort when
standing.
Those circular kerosene heaters (http://www.yourheater.com/dh2304.jpg)
do all right but send most heat directly UP over themselves. I use one
in my basement and can operate it for 24 hours on a fill and keep the
basement at 66 when the outside temps are dropping below thirty.

In my insulated garage, I can get by with a little ceramic heater or
one of those electric heaters that have the "ribbons" of metal and a
little fan to keep the chill off.

I'm not too sure I would want one of those Propane infrared heaters
with all the saw dust generated on a good day and that MODINE HOT DAWG
HD30 - $479.00 thing would buy you a lot of insulation.

You may be able to rent a construction heater and try it out before
plopping down the $279 or so plus the cost of the propane and tank
(another $50?) - again, that would buy a lot of fiberglass bats.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

Hi,

I've got about what you do, 12' x 24' metal storage building, with an
overhead door, two windows, a hand door, and lots of leaks.
And I live in Minnesota, where it does get cold.

I haven't found a way to insulate the shed without building a wall
inside the existing walls, which looks like more $$ and time than I
want to put in.

So, on the advice from a friend I bought 4 infra red heat lamps (think
chicken brooder heating) with porcelain sockets. I put two at the
bench and two at the lathe, and I use a small radiant propane heater
(about 14000 butu) on top of a 20# propane cylinder (called a fish
house heater, before fish houses got to be traveling living rooms) to
put heat where I need it.

And I invested in a pair of flannel lined jeans ($50) and insulated
shoes from LL Bean ($70) and a stocking cap. Add a chore jacket, a
sweatshirt and gloves, and I can be reasonably comfortable working out
there in 25 degree weather (ambient is about 40 inside) if the sun is
shining, and 30 degree weather if not. Oh, I found some of those
interlocking rubber mats for kids to play on and put them on the floor
where I usually stand ($20). Obviously I am happier working with
tools with wooden handles when it's cold.

Any gluing or finishing or working with water ends up being done in
my attached garage which stays at about 50 degrees.

Shirt sleeves? No, but for a minimum of effort and fuss I have a
reasonable heating system so that I only have to concede 2 months a
year to winter. Fair compromise.

I thought about a wood stove, but it bothered me to have something
that hot in the way, and to bank up the fire and leave it unattended
at the end of the day.

Old Guy




On Nov 19, 11:38*am, KIMOSABE wrote:
My home shop is squeezed into a 9 x 16 wood shed.

I can't do much in the winter because *NJ is just too cold. *I need to
heat it up now and then and am looking for suggestions. *I tried a
small 1500 btu Pelonis electric/fan heater the other day and that was
about as effective as puppies' breath.

So, any thoughts? *Space is at a premium. *I'm stepping around and
over stuff as it is now.

I'd consider some sort of propane or kerosene heater provided it
wasn't a space hog or just too much of a fire or carbon monoxide
hazard.

I may be asking for the impossible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

"Hoosierpopi" wrote in message
...
INSULATE

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but one of the primary products
of combustion is water. Not sure how many pounds of water per pound of fuel.
But all of it will recondense when the temperature again drops.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

MikeWhy wrote:
"Hoosierpopi" wrote in message
...
INSULATE

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but one of the primary
products of combustion is water. Not sure how many pounds of water per
pound of fuel. But all of it will recondense when the temperature again
drops.


Not all combustion, correct?
Gasoline and Propane yes, wood no?


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-MIKE- wrote:
MikeWhy wrote:

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but one of the primary
products of combustion is water. Not sure how many pounds of water per

Not all combustion, correct?

Correct, pure carbon would not produce water as a product of combustion.

Gasoline and Propane yes, wood no?

Wood, yes. There is hydrogen in that there cellulose and one
of the products of combution of wood is H2O. Maybe not as much
as propane or other hydrocarbons, but still some.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

Wood, yes. There is hydrogen in that there cellulose and one
of the products of combution of wood is H2O. Maybe not as much
as propane or other hydrocarbons, but still some.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.


Cool.
Learn something new everyday.


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-MIKE- wrote:
MikeWhy wrote:
"Hoosierpopi" wrote in message
...
INSULATE

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but one of the primary
products of combustion is water. Not sure how many pounds of water
per pound of fuel. But all of it will recondense when the
temperature again drops.


Not all combustion, correct?
Gasoline and Propane yes, wood no?

Cellulose C6 H10 O5

Lignin is not clearly defined chemically but it also contains a great
deal of hydrogen.

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How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

dpb wrote:
wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
MikeWhy wrote:
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but one of the
primary
products of combustion is water. Not sure how many pounds of
water
per

Not all combustion, correct?

Correct, pure carbon would not produce water as a product of
combustion. ...

Problem is, of course, there's really no source of pure carbon as a
fuel. Eastern coals have roughly 5% or so H in an ultimate analysis
plus that in the 2-3% moisture; western coals are somewhat higher.
H
normally doesn't show up in the analyses as generally one sees the
proximate analysis, not an ultimate so the moisture content is all
that's reported on that basis (but the elemental H is additional to
H20 in an ultimate analysis so it's not a double-accounting).

Coke and charcoal come pretty close, with up to 95 percent carbon
content.

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Old Guy wrote in news:94b756e4-11c1-4930-a5fe-
:

Hi,

I've got about what you do, 12' x 24' metal storage building, with an
overhead door, two windows, a hand door, and lots of leaks.
And I live in Minnesota, where it does get cold.

I haven't found a way to insulate the shed without building a wall
inside the existing walls, which looks like more $$ and time than I
want to put in.
*snip*
Old Guy


Just a thought... Have you looked in to a spray foam insulation? It has to
be applied professionally, and will take a little space, but it's better
than building 2x4 stud walls so you can install bat insulation.

Puckdropper
--
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

Just a thought... Have you looked in to a spray foam insulation? It has to
be applied professionally, and will take a little space, but it's better
than building 2x4 stud walls so you can install bat insulation.

Puckdropper

Have you seen the silver backed rolls of insulation that are always
against metal roofs in big corrugated steel buildings?
I can't remember where, but I saw that stuff being installed once with
built in adhesive. They pealed off a backing and stuck it up, straight
on the roofing. The adhesive was super-duty, like that rubber
self-sealing window flashing. It would stick to anything and everything,
and would not come loose.



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J. Clarke wrote:
dpb wrote:
wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
MikeWhy wrote:
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but one of the
primary
products of combustion is water. Not sure how many pounds of
water
per
Not all combustion, correct?
Correct, pure carbon would not produce water as a product of
combustion. ...
Problem is, of course, there's really no source of pure carbon as a
fuel. Eastern coals have roughly 5% or so H in an ultimate analysis
plus that in the 2-3% moisture; western coals are somewhat higher.
H
normally doesn't show up in the analyses as generally one sees the
proximate analysis, not an ultimate so the moisture content is all
that's reported on that basis (but the elemental H is additional to
H20 in an ultimate analysis so it's not a double-accounting).

Coke and charcoal come pretty close, with up to 95 percent carbon
content.

Don't have an ultimate analysis handy, but 100 - 95 is pretty close to 5 :)

Not too many use either for space heating, though, which was the general
subject. Anyway, was just noting there's H pretty much everywhere, even
in nonhydrogenous fuels unless special care made to remove it.

--

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Stuart wrote:
In article ,
dpb wrote:
Problem is, of course, there's really no source of pure carbon as a
fuel.

Coke?

For space heating?

--

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Old Guy wrote:
Hi,

I've got about what you do, 12' x 24' metal storage building, with an
overhead door, two windows, a hand door, and lots of leaks.
And I live in Minnesota, where it does get cold.

I haven't found a way to insulate the shed without building a wall
inside the existing walls, which looks like more $$ and time than I
want to put in.


Rigid foam panels glued on with construction adhesive, the kind that
comes in caulking gun size?

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Stuart wrote:
In article ,
dpb wrote:
Coke?

For space heating?

It is a source of almost pure Carbon for use as a fuel :-)

Actually, one of my daughters is a blacksmith and uses Coke for her forge
- place can get pretty warm.

Secondary effect :)

It's probably the most common use for coke, of course...good friend has
been plant engineer for one or more foundries for years. One of his
horror stories is the new furnace dedication of a Japanese owned
facility -- the religious leader picked up a big handful of sea salt and
before John could stop him, having no idea what was coming, tossed it in
the hot vessel! Needless to say, the Cl and other nasties caused so
much contamination in what was to be a very specialized high-purity
stainless forge they had to completely gut the lining and redo it -- at
the cost of something like $10M.

--

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dpb wrote:
Stuart wrote:
In article ,
dpb wrote:
Problem is, of course, there's really no source of pure carbon as
a
fuel.

Coke?

For space heating?

Usually overkill for the purpose. Charcoal on the other hand has at
various times and in various places been plentiful--it's a byproduct
of pine-tar extraction for example, which led to it being something of
a glut on the market in Scandinavia at one time. After a while they
ran out of pine trees though . . .

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"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote

Just a thought... Have you looked in to a spray foam insulation? It has
to
be applied professionally, and will take a little space, but it's better
than building 2x4 stud walls so you can install bat insulation.

Actually, there is a amatuer version of the spray foam insulation. I seem
to have misplaced the link. It comes in cardboard boxes. Each box covers so
many square feet. There is some kind of nozzle/applicator that you hook up
to it. The chemical reaction moves the foam into the space and expands it.
One time application, of course! There is no way to use part of a box.

I am certain, though it is probably a very good product, that is expensive.

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dpb wrote:
Stuart wrote:

In article ,
dpb wrote:

Problem is, of course, there's really no source of pure carbon as a
fuel.


Coke?


For space heating?


Snort enough of it and you won't care how cold it is? ;-)

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

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The price I paid for the infrared propane heater was $49.
http://www.heatershop.com/propane_infrared_heaters.html

Thanks for all for the good advice and for alerting me to the moisture
problem. I think I'll start by leaving the double doors open for an
hour or two after closing down work.

I haven't taken a close look at it yet, but the easiest way to
insulate for me will be to use the firm pink foam stuff with the shiny
silver backing from Home Depot.

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

Hi all,

Thanks for the ideas about insulating my cold storage shop.

Maybe some folks have used some of this stuff and have been happy with
it. I have serious reservations about the various suggestions.

I looked at the spray stuff, and don't like the results. The final
surface is rough, and will collect dust, no matter what i do. And it
is soft, so any impact will make it look worse. But worst of all,
even if there is goop mixed in the insulation to make it not
flammable, if some of my wood stock burns next to it it gives off a
witch's brew of fumes. I've been in a gas chamber twice in the
military, I don't want to repeat the experience in my shop.

There's the same set of problems with adhering foam panels, even with
a foil facing. They give off some stuff that you don't want to
breathe when there's a fire. And adhering 1/2" sheetrock to them
(which is the standard for protection) could be done, but the panels
would NEVER be in alignment.

I think the foil faced bubble insulation is less noxiious, but I still
have soft walls. (Not ready for a padded cell....yet).

If someone has some experience they can offer, I'd appreciate any and
all stories.

Old Guy



On Nov 21, 4:17*pm, Doug Winterburn wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Hi,

I've got about what you do, 12' x 24' metal storage building, with an
overhead door, two windows, a hand door, and lots of leaks.
And I live in Minnesota, where it does get cold.

I haven't found a way to insulate the shed without building a wall
inside the existing walls, which looks like more $$ and time than I
want to put in.

Rigid foam panels glued on with construction adhesive, the kind that
comes in caulking gun size?

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

"Old Guy" wrote in message

There's the same set of problems with adhering foam panels, even with
a foil facing. They give off some stuff that you don't want to
breathe when there's a fire.

************************************************** **********

You mean if your shop is on fire you're going to stand inside and watch it?
Head down wind and inhale the aroma?

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dpb wrote:
KIMOSABE wrote:
....
I may be asking for the impossible.
....
I'd start w/ some insulation -- whether it's solid foam on the
walls/ceiling if there's not stud space or whatever you need to do.
Then, at least you're not just trying to heat the whole eastern seaboard.

Then, a reasonably small propane or other heater (preferably vented,
outside air if this is a wood shop and particularly if use volatile
finishes) will be all needed.

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That's what I did with my 10x10 shed/shop. I insulated the sides with
fibreglass and the ceiling with foam. Nothing in the floor and that's
proving to be an issue.

I run a kerosene heater all winter for heat and it's good til about -15
C (5 F). Or it was last winter without insulation. I expect better
results this year. I was in the shop all day today with outside temps ~
- 10 C (14 F) and I was too hot.

YMMV

Tanus

How to heat a 9 x 16 uninsulated shed? Suggestions sought.
 

In my reading round. I discovered the notion of carrying the walls down with
a flared "skirt" of concrete sheeting, lined with rigid foam and buried a
foot or so into the ground. This is the new thinking in Scandanavian
building, apparently.

The skirting traps geothermal heat and directs it upwards, and all things
being equal this raises the cold weather building temperature by around 16
degrees.. (presume F, not C)

That's a pretty compelling argument, don'tya think?

I suspect that wooden floors would be better than concrete, but that might
just be "common sense" kicking in where it shouldn't (like "heavier objects
obviously hit the ground before lighter objects" type common sense,)