So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

Ed

Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

What's the target use?

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Pneumatic. Avoid battery versions like the plague. Senco is my choice
and what you see in a lot of pro cabinet shops. Porter Cable is
prolific but loud and lousy once you use something nicer like the
Senco.

Let the flames begin...

On Oct 15, 5:06*pm, "Ed Edelenbos" wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. *Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: *I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) *Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. *So many options.

Ed

Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the
options
out there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the
expense? (note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth)
Gas powered (i.e Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric,
pneumatic. So many options.

If you've got a compressor go pneumatic. The ones I've got from
Harbor Freight work fine and they're cheap. How long they'll continue
to do so I have no idea.


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Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

Ed



For occasional use take a look at Harbor Freight's:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46309

It ain't pretty but the price is right.

I bought their 1/4" crown stapler about three years ago and it hasn't
given me one bit of problems. I've used their framing nailer without
any problems as well.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

"dpb" wrote in message ...
Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered
(i.e Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many
options.

What's the target use?

--

Small work, basically holding joints while glue sets.

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered
(i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

I started off with a Porter Cable FN250B. Figured it gave me the greatest
length of nails for what I figured I'd be nailing. But, it all depends on
what you're going to use it for.

J. Clarke wrote:
Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the
options
out there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the
expense? (note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth)
Gas powered (i.e Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric,
pneumatic. So many options.

If you've got a compressor go pneumatic. The ones I've got from
Harbor Freight work fine and they're cheap. How long they'll continue
to do so I have no idea.



The advantage to the HF units is that they are easily replaced if they
do fail and don't cost an arm and leg. Besides they really are good
units. Mine is a name brand reman.

Dave N

Ed Edelenbos wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ...
Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered
(i.e Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many
options.
What's the target use?

--

Small work, basically holding joints while glue sets.



All right your name is really Norm isn't it!!!!

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered
(i.e Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many
options.

Ed


Maybe not done to death, since it seems to rise up periodically, but
certainly discussed enough to simply take a look at some of those previous
discussions.

--

-Mike-

On Oct 15, 8:06*pm, "Ed Edelenbos" wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. *Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: *I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) *Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. *So many options.

Ed

Will a 23 gauge do? If so, Craftsman sells one, which is really a
Nikle, and it is great for small jobs. You can hardly see the nail's
head so I leave them in after the glue dries.
The 18 gauge units are all over the place and an off-shore cheapo will
do just fine. Keep it lubed and they will last and last.
I find that I am either reaching for my 16 gauge Paslode to really
HOLD something or my little 23 gauge to sortakinda inconspicuously
hold something. 23 gauge nailers rule!

You need a brad nailer, finish nailer and a
staple gun in my opinion.

If you are not in a rush, the Christmas season
is approaching and all the air gun folks will
be running "combo" specials where you can get
a compressor and a nailer or two for a decent
price.

I have even seen them offer three nail guns
together and no compressor.

Several folks on the list either swear at or
swear by the infamous Harbor Freight line of
nail guns. Put your money down and take your
chances.

I started with Porter Cable about 10 years
ago and I still have all the same guns.

http://www.deltaportercable.com/Prod...4272.4601.4603

There are SEVERAL companies that offer the very same products,
so pick a favorite. I think most of them are made in the same
plant in China.

Pay particular attention to "who's" fastners the gun will use.
Many of the guns do not do well with "other folks" fastners.

I would buy a framing nailer ONLY if you really need one,
not if you just think you might use it on occasion.
It's rarely used in my place.



Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

Ed

On Oct 16, 10:38*am, Pat Barber wrote:


I would buy a framing nailer ONLY if you really need one,

Framing nailers only work right if you chase the nail home with a
hammer. The pneumatic ones just don't 'suck' a joint tight enough for
my liking.

Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

Ed


I use a pneumatic Bostitch brad nailer/stapler. Works fine.

Chris

Robatoy wrote:
On Oct 15, 8:06 pm, "Ed Edelenbos" wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

Ed

Will a 23 gauge do? If so, Craftsman sells one, which is really a
Nikle, and it is great for small jobs. You can hardly see the nail's
head so I leave them in after the glue dries.
The 18 gauge units are all over the place and an off-shore cheapo will
do just fine. Keep it lubed and they will last and last.
I find that I am either reaching for my 16 gauge Paslode to really
HOLD something or my little 23 gauge to sortakinda inconspicuously
hold something. 23 gauge nailers rule.

But you have to give it a good whack with a milled head 28 oz. framing
hammer to make sure the brads are set.

pants on fire,
j4

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:06:01 -0400, "Ed Edelenbos"
wrote:

So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many options.

Ed

If I were you, I'd go to a local multi line store, get a three or four
year old catalog and ask to see the service parts available for the
equivalent older model you would be looking for today. If they are
"discontinued" you might want to move on from that manufacturer.

The practice seems to be when the Taiwanese broker moves from one
mainland supplier to another usually when a model changes slightly, to
get a few pennies savings, they ask the old guy for a "calculated
lifetime supply of service parts". He'll sell you any stock he has on
hand, but with regard to the rest, you'll get the Mandarin version of
"up yours"

Frank

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas powered
(i.e Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. So many
options.

One low cost option used by many people in my area is the Grizzly nail guns.
I remember when they were about half the price they are now.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/cate...spx?key=285010

On Oct 16, 12:25*pm, jo4hn wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Oct 15, 8:06 pm, "Ed Edelenbos" wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. *Of all the options out
there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the expense?
(note: *I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) *Gas powered (i.e
Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic. *So many options.

Ed

Will a 23 gauge do? If so, Craftsman sells one, which is really a
Nikle, and it is great for small jobs. You can hardly see the nail's
head so I leave them in after the glue dries.
The 18 gauge units are all over the place and an off-shore cheapo will
do just fine. Keep it lubed and they will last and last.
I find that I am either reaching for my 16 gauge Paslode to really
HOLD something or my little 23 gauge to sortakinda inconspicuously
hold something. 23 gauge nailers rule.

But you have to give it a good whack with a milled head 28 oz. framing
hammer to make sure the brads are set.

* * * * pants on fire,
* * * * j4

The "BRADS??"....LMAO

The old 22 oz Plumb hammer huh ???

The small compressors don't the have
the balls to do that. You need serious
air when doing framing.

Those twin hotdog compressors turned
Waaaaay up will indeed drive a 3.5"
nail all the way home.




Robatoy wrote:
On Oct 16, 10:38 am, Pat Barber wrote:

I would buy a framing nailer ONLY if you really need one,

Framing nailers only work right if you chase the nail home with a
hammer. The pneumatic ones just don't 'suck' a joint tight enough for
my liking.

"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
news
Ed Edelenbos wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ...
Ed Edelenbos wrote:
So I'm considering a simple brad nailer type gun. Of all the options
out there, what's not worth the trouble, and what's not worth the
expense? (note: I'm an advanced novice for whatever that's worth) Gas
powered (i.e Pasload), plug in electric, battery electric, pneumatic.
So many options.
What's the target use?

--

Small work, basically holding joints while glue sets.

All right your name is really Norm isn't it!!!!

LOL! It works for him. There are times I'd like something quick and easy
to either; a) leave the clamps hung up where they are, or b) be able to tack
it so it'll stay aligned 'til I can get the clamps on. I don't have a
compressor so I'll be starting from scratch if I go that way.

Ed

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in
:


LOL! It works for him. There are times I'd like something quick and
easy to either; a) leave the clamps hung up where they are, or b) be
able to tack it so it'll stay aligned 'til I can get the clamps on. I
don't have a compressor so I'll be starting from scratch if I go that
way.

Ed


There are several combo kits available with nailer and compressor. I
haven't tried any of them personally, but as you're starting from scratch
it might be a good way to go.

The included compressor will probably be a low CFM model, good for nailer
and blow gun use but not for much else. Most air tools I've seen start at
4 SCFM @ 90 psi and go up from there.

Puckdropper
--
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
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"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in
:


LOL! It works for him. There are times I'd like something quick and
easy to either; a) leave the clamps hung up where they are, or b) be
able to tack it so it'll stay aligned 'til I can get the clamps on. I
don't have a compressor so I'll be starting from scratch if I go that
way.

Ed


There are several combo kits available with nailer and compressor. I
haven't tried any of them personally, but as you're starting from scratch
it might be a good way to go.

The included compressor will probably be a low CFM model, good for nailer
and blow gun use but not for much else. Most air tools I've seen start at
4 SCFM @ 90 psi and go up from there.

Puckdropper

Thanks. Now I'll have to look up a primer on compressors. It'd be nice if
it would be enough for a small airbrush.

Ed

I just threw a Porter Cable oil-free compressor
in the dumpster. I had it for for 5 years and it
was used VERY lightly. The motor went out and
the replacement cost was $120 for a compressor
that cost $150.

My next portable is going to be a oil type
such as
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Prod...roductID=11517
or even a
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-MAC700-...4528558&sr=8-1

but it will have lubrication.

Ed Edelenbos wrote:

Thanks. Now I'll have to look up a primer on compressors. It'd be nice
if it would be enough for a small airbrush.

Ed

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:50:30 GMT, Pat Barber
wrote:

I've had one that's like the Porter Cable in the link for over 40
years and have painted a couple of houses, cars, run nailers and it is
still going strong. It gets lots of use!! Once I let it run out of
oil and it siezed up but with the addition of oil and a bit of force,
it runs and this happened about 25 years ago.

The Makita looks like a direct drive and IMHO, this type of compressor
will wear out prematurely as it runs at the motor speed and uses a
smaller piston. (Mine came from Sears back when they made quality
stuff.)

Hope this helps.

I just threw a Porter Cable oil-free compressor
in the dumpster. I had it for for 5 years and it
was used VERY lightly. The motor went out and
the replacement cost was $120 for a compressor
that cost $150.

My next portable is going to be a oil type
such as
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Prod...roductID=11517
or even a
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-MAC700-...4528558&sr=8-1

but it will have lubrication.

Ed Edelenbos wrote:

Thanks. Now I'll have to look up a primer on compressors. It'd be nice
if it would be enough for a small airbrush.

Ed

In article Wp4Lk.82688$Mh5.21795@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, says...
I just threw a Porter Cable oil-free compressor
in the dumpster. I had it for for 5 years and it
was used VERY lightly. The motor went out and
the replacement cost was $120 for a compressor
that cost $150.

I was looking at several the other day to replace my 6gal PC pancake
(getting too small and *way* too noisy). I'm looking for something
I can easily power off a 120V 20A circuit and be somewhat quiet
(thus an induction motor). I was trying to find the motor type on a
Dewalt D55168 that looked sorta interesting. They want $518 for a
pump on a compressor that goes for $370 at the local Lowes. It
still looks interesting, though I still can't find the motor type.

My next portable is going to be a oil type
such as
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Prod...roductID=11517

Interesting. Something to consider.

or even a
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-MAC700-...4528558&sr=8-1

Too small for my uses.

I also sorta liked a PC upright, though it wasn't built as well as
the Dewalt and a bit more expensive ($400). It does have an
induction motor.
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Prod...ctDetail.aspx?
ProductID=11525


but it will have lubrication.

Ed Edelenbos wrote:

Thanks. Now I'll have to look up a primer on compressors. It'd be nice
if it would be enough for a small airbrush.

Ed


--
Keith