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j.duprie
 
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Default Machining Delrin with woodworking tools?

HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


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"j.duprie" wrote in message ...
HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


I've heard of Delrin being used to fabricate gears. What are you doing with it?
In what form are you obtaining it? sheets? Where do you get it?
Thanks,

Myx


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j.duprie
 
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I'm making hubs to mount a drum to a rotating shaft - part of something
called a plankton wheel. I'm getting the Delrin from McMaster-Carr in a 3"
thick X 9" diameter disk. Pretty much all I have to do is machine in somw
screw holes to mount the drum, a hole for the shaft (1"), and a hole to pin
the hub toi the shaft. Should be pretty simple, but doing it in stainless
will cost be about $1,000, and it will be exposed to seawater, so Delrin it
is (ata cost of about $40 and a couple hours shop time...)

--JD


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"j.duprie" wrote in message

...
HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better

material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it

before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW

plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


I've heard of Delrin being used to fabricate gears. What are you doing

with it?
In what form are you obtaining it? sheets? Where do you get it?
Thanks,

Myx




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John Crea
 
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You might also want to machine in a keyway to prevent spinning on the
shaft - unless you want it to spin on the shaft vbg!!!

John

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:11:17 -0500, "j.duprie"
wrote:

I'm making hubs to mount a drum to a rotating shaft - part of something
called a plankton wheel. I'm getting the Delrin from McMaster-Carr in a 3"
thick X 9" diameter disk. Pretty much all I have to do is machine in somw
screw holes to mount the drum, a hole for the shaft (1"), and a hole to pin
the hub toi the shaft. Should be pretty simple, but doing it in stainless
will cost be about $1,000, and it will be exposed to seawater, so Delrin it
is (ata cost of about $40 and a couple hours shop time...)

--JD


"Myxylplyk" wrote in message
ink.net...

"j.duprie" wrote in message

...
HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better

material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it

before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW

plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


I've heard of Delrin being used to fabricate gears. What are you doing

with it?
In what form are you obtaining it? sheets? Where do you get it?
Thanks,

Myx






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John Crea writes:

You might also want to machine in a keyway to prevent spinning on the
shaft - unless you want it to spin on the shaft vbg!!!


.... in that case it would be an axle...

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I've decided against a keytway because I don't think the delrin will hold
up. Instead there will be a through bolt (Much larger distribution of load)
--JD


"John Crea" wrote in message
...
You might also want to machine in a keyway to prevent spinning on the
shaft - unless you want it to spin on the shaft vbg!!!

John

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:11:17 -0500, "j.duprie"
wrote:

I'm making hubs to mount a drum to a rotating shaft - part of something
called a plankton wheel. I'm getting the Delrin from McMaster-Carr in a

3"
thick X 9" diameter disk. Pretty much all I have to do is machine in somw
screw holes to mount the drum, a hole for the shaft (1"), and a hole to

pin
the hub toi the shaft. Should be pretty simple, but doing it in stainless
will cost be about $1,000, and it will be exposed to seawater, so Delrin

it
is (ata cost of about $40 and a couple hours shop time...)

--JD


"Myxylplyk" wrote in message
ink.net...

"j.duprie" wrote in message

...
HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better

material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it

before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW

plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


I've heard of Delrin being used to fabricate gears. What are you doing

with it?
In what form are you obtaining it? sheets? Where do you get it?
Thanks,

Myx






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Ron Magen
 
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Marine Biology . . . specimen sampling, I would guess.

I know they use Delrin as the sheaves in line blocks . . . more for Sail
then Power . . . so you should be safe. The material is similar to what is
used to make 'Nylabone' synthetic dog bones. You shouldn't have much trouble
using normal wood-working tools. I know I have used the 'leftovers' from our
two Malamutes for 'stops', 'bumpers', etc.

When / if turning take note that the material isn't as 'stiff' as a metal .
.. . especially when 'friction heat' takes effect. It will tend to 'bend
away' from the cutting tool. 1}go VERY slow, 2}keep it VERY cool {keep
flooded with 'cutting lube'}, 3} stop FREQUENTLY and measure . . . 'sneak
up' on the final dimension.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"j.duprie" wrote in message
...
I'm making hubs to mount a drum to a rotating shaft - part of something
called a plankton wheel. I'm getting the Delrin from McMaster-Carr in a 3"
thick X 9" diameter disk. Pretty much all I have to do is machine in somw
screw holes to mount the drum, a hole for the shaft (1"), and a hole to

pin
the hub toi the shaft. Should be pretty simple, but doing it in stainless
will cost be about $1,000, and it will be exposed to seawater, so Delrin

it
is (ata cost of about $40 and a couple hours shop time...)

--JD


"Myxylplyk" wrote in message
nk.net...

"j.duprie" wrote in message

...
HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better

material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it

before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW

plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


I've heard of Delrin being used to fabricate gears. What are you doing

with it?
In what form are you obtaining it? sheets? Where do you get it?
Thanks,

Myx






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klaatu
 
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Default Machining Delrin with woodworking tools?

Jd, Delrin is thermosetting. Just try to keep it cool by using sharp
cutters. You can "weld" it with a soldering iron. Large cross sections
are thermo fused and thus have a seam. This seam can lead to failure
depending upon application. You can tell if you have a seam if you see
a faint line after machining. Delrin is a trade name. It comes in
black or natural(white). Great stuff. It has teflon in it so don't try
using glue. Been there. Good Luck.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:21:22 -0500, "j.duprie"
wrote:

HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


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j.duprie
 
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Thanks evryone. Sounds like I shouldn't have any problems.
The application is for a plankton wheel - basically a big drum that you
strap 2 litre bottles to. Each bottle contains smaples of plankton/larvae.
You turn the drum to keep the critters from settling to the bottom. very low
turbulence, but no settling....
--JD


"j.duprie" wrote in message
...
I've decided against a keytway because I don't think the delrin will hold
up. Instead there will be a through bolt (Much larger distribution of

load)
--JD


"John Crea" wrote in message
...
You might also want to machine in a keyway to prevent spinning on the
shaft - unless you want it to spin on the shaft vbg!!!

John

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:11:17 -0500, "j.duprie"
wrote:

I'm making hubs to mount a drum to a rotating shaft - part of something
called a plankton wheel. I'm getting the Delrin from McMaster-Carr in a

3"
thick X 9" diameter disk. Pretty much all I have to do is machine in

somw
screw holes to mount the drum, a hole for the shaft (1"), and a hole to

pin
the hub toi the shaft. Should be pretty simple, but doing it in

stainless
will cost be about $1,000, and it will be exposed to seawater, so

Delrin
it
is (ata cost of about $40 and a couple hours shop time...)

--JD


"Myxylplyk" wrote in message
ink.net...

"j.duprie" wrote in message
...
HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better
material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it
before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW
plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience

with
delrin?

thanks
--JD


I've heard of Delrin being used to fabricate gears. What are you

doing
with it?
In what form are you obtaining it? sheets? Where do you get it?
Thanks,

Myx










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I just finished turning and cutting some white delrin rod for my father-in-
law's boat trailer. I have and use a metal lathe and was going to turn it on
that, but I was in a rush so I turned it on my ww lathe.

It turns fine, just like really wet green wood. It does catch so you need to
be mindful of it. I used a gouge and scraped and sanded it, with no problems.
You might want to research its properties to UV light. From what I read it
breaks down from direct sunlight.

Aloha, Russell

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HI gang..
I find myself in a situation where Delrin would be a much better material
for a couple of components than wood. I've never tried working it before, so
I figured I'd ping you folks...

I'll be turning and drilling (I'm making a hub). I've worked UHMW plastics
before, and lots of wood. Wondering if anyone has any experience with
delrin?

thanks
--JD



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Default Conclusions - Was: Machining Delrin with woodworking tools?

Well, I did it. I needed to turn 2 8" disks out of delrin, so I chucked the
stuff into my wood lathe, and had at it.
Here's what I found:
scrapers work great if you can keep them from chattering (requires a
solid grip). It throws off long stringy shavings that really stink (smells
like formalin).

the finish you can get is very good - nice smooth shiny surface.

sharp toiols and a moderate cutting speed are essential - turn to fast or
witha dull tool and you get either catches or chatter and dust..

I managed to turn 2 parts - 8" disks 1" thick, with a shoulder at about 1"
out from the center, and a 1" hole bored through the center. Kind of like a
lathe faceplate but without threads in the center hole.

If you can stand the smell, its easy to turn...

--JD


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