I got lucky during the clamp fiasco at Woodcraft and proudly display my
collection in my workshop. I have a 2x4 nailed horizontally to the framing
in my garage which works perfectly for this. One question that troubles me
though. When storing them, I clamp them down so as not to fall off. I
tighten them enough to hold without slipping off and so the kids couldn't
pull them off.

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to speak.

Many thanks in anticipation of an answer!

Mike Rinken

Good clamps are much stronger than the 2x4 you have them snugged up on and
will not be hurt by the slight expansion a 2x4 will have. In the future you
might want to build a rack with slots that the clamps can slip into and put
a lip in the front of it so that the clamps cannot fall out. This makes it
much easier to get them and put them away while still preventing them from
falling on anyone

--
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"Creamy Goodness" creamy at agbf1942 dot com wrote in message
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I got lucky during the clamp fiasco at Woodcraft and proudly display my
collection in my workshop. I have a 2x4 nailed horizontally to the
framing
in my garage which works perfectly for this. One question that troubles
me
though. When storing them, I clamp them down so as not to fall off. I
tighten them enough to hold without slipping off and so the kids couldn't
pull them off.

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to
make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to
speak.

Many thanks in anticipation of an answer!

Mike Rinken

Creamy Goodness asks:

I got lucky during the clamp fiasco at Woodcraft and proudly display my
collection in my workshop. I have a 2x4 nailed horizontally to the framing
in my garage which works perfectly for this. One question that troubles me
though. When storing them, I clamp them down so as not to fall off. I
tighten them enough to hold without slipping off and so the kids couldn't
pull them off.

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to speak.

I don't know what the official line is, but I store most clamps lightly close,
some more tightly (heavier handled clamps fall off more easily). Spring clamps
are stored clamped to a board, as the only other way I know of is to toss the
lot in a bucket and have a blast sorting out one when it's needed. If the studs
are open in your shop, you might nail a board across part way up and stick the
bar clamps (including pipe clamps) behind that.

One fast note: what are the kids doing in your shop if they're young enough to
be yanking on things they should yank on?

Charlie Self
"Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves."
Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
Creamy Goodness asks:

I got lucky during the clamp fiasco at Woodcraft and proudly display my
collection in my workshop. I have a 2x4 nailed horizontally to the
framing
in my garage which works perfectly for this. One question that troubles
me
though. When storing them, I clamp them down so as not to fall off. I
tighten them enough to hold without slipping off and so the kids couldn't
pull them off.

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to
make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to
speak.

I don't know what the official line is, but I store most clamps lightly
close,
some more tightly (heavier handled clamps fall off more easily). Spring
clamps
are stored clamped to a board, as the only other way I know of is to toss
the
lot in a bucket and have a blast sorting out one when it's needed. If the
studs
are open in your shop, you might nail a board across part way up and stick
the
bar clamps (including pipe clamps) behind that.

One fast note: what are the kids doing in your shop if they're young
enough to
be yanking on things they should yank on?

Charlie Self
"Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of
themselves."
Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html


Well the garage is used by all, so I have to "store" things in convenient
locations. I have doors with locks on the cabinets so they can't get at my
tools (except the stuff on the peg board) and all of the main tools like the
Table saw and Band Saw have moving bases that lock down so they can't roll
away without someone loosening things. I've tried to make it as safe as
possible for the kids and we've never had an accident. I involve them in
smaller projects so they learn about tools, safety using the tool, and the
dangers of scary sharp things. They do a great job policing their friends
around the TS and BS.

I worry quite a bit about it too, that's why they're tightened down so they
can't be yanked off. Those things are heavy!!!!

Mike Rinken

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:13:51 -0700, "Creamy Goodness" creamy at
agbf1942 dot com wrote:

my preference would be to store them with the jaws open to somewhere
in the range of use. running the jaws in and out is a waste of time
and wear on the clutch plates.

clamp storage is still evolving in my shop....
Bridger

Creamy Goodness responds:

Well the garage is used by all, so I have to "store" things in convenient
locations. I have doors with locks on the cabinets so they can't get at my
tools (except the stuff on the peg board) and all of the main tools like the
Table saw and Band Saw have moving bases that lock down so they can't roll
away without someone loosening things. I've tried to make it as safe as
possible for the kids and we've never had an accident. I involve them in
smaller projects so they learn about tools, safety using the tool, and the
dangers of scary sharp things. They do a great job policing their friends
around the TS and BS.

I worry quite a bit about it too, that's why they're tightened down so they
can't be yanked off. Those things are heavy!!!!

Makes sense to me. I'm way past the stage where I have to worry about underage
trespassers in my shop, but the thought of a 3' or 4' K body clunking Junior on
the noggin isn't a pleasant one.

Charlie Self
"Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves."
Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html

In article ,
"Tbone" wrote:

Good clamps are much stronger than the 2x4 you have them snugged up on and
will not be hurt by the slight expansion a 2x4 will have. In the future you
might want to build a rack with slots that the clamps can slip into and put
a lip in the front of it so that the clamps cannot fall out. This makes it
much easier to get them and put them away while still preventing them from
falling on anyone

I store my bar clamps between the floor joists in the ceiling of my
basement shop. A screwed some pieces of 1x3 between various joists and
just slip the clamps on top of those.

It's not as convenient to get them out and put them away as some of the
fancy clamp storage furniture I've seen, but I can't afford to give away
any floor space so I get creative with storage.

Makes sense to me. I'm way past the stage where I have to worry about
underage
trespassers in my shop, but the thought of a 3' or 4' K body clunking
Junior on
the noggin isn't a pleasant one.

Charlie Self
"Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of
themselves."
Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html

Exactly. Those 4 footers are scary heavy. Actually thought about keeping
one in my bedroom in case of unwanted "visitors" in the middle of the night.
But I've got 2 fur covered razor blades for that.

Thanks! (BTW - Impressive resume. I've lurked in this group for about 7
years now and I'm always impressed by the people here. Well most of them
anyways.)

If you lightly clamp them, they'll be fine 'til the cows come home.


dave

Creamy Goodness wrote:

I got lucky during the clamp fiasco at Woodcraft and proudly display my
collection in my workshop. I have a 2x4 nailed horizontally to the framing
in my garage which works perfectly for this. One question that troubles me
though. When storing them, I clamp them down so as not to fall off. I
tighten them enough to hold without slipping off and so the kids couldn't
pull them off.

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to speak.

Many thanks in anticipation of an answer!

Mike Rinken

"Creamy Goodness" wrote in message

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to
make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to
speak.

What I find easier with Besseys is to close the jaws with just enough
pressure to keep them that way, then hook the bottom of the "K" over a 2X2
nailed between the joists ... that way it doesn't take two hands to unclamp
them to get them down.

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Last update: 1/12/04

On 13 Jan 2004 18:48:48 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
brought forth from the murky depths:

Creamy Goodness responds:
I worry quite a bit about it too, that's why they're tightened down so they
can't be yanked off. Those things are heavy!!!!

Makes sense to me. I'm way past the stage where I have to worry about underage
trespassers in my shop, but the thought of a 3' or 4' K body clunking Junior on
the noggin isn't a pleasant one.

Yeah, go ahead and protect them right out of existence, guys.
The first bad thing that happens to them in -real- life may
kill them if they're not prepared for the unexpected. Besides,
remember back when we wore scars as signs of life experience?

To each their own.

--
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:36:50 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:


I store my bar clamps between the floor joists in the ceiling of my
basement shop. A screwed some pieces of 1x3 between various joists and
just slip the clamps on top of those.

It's not as convenient to get them out and put them away as some of the
fancy clamp storage furniture I've seen, but I can't afford to give away
any floor space so I get creative with storage.



it would be very inconvenient in my shop. the ceiling is 12 feet
up....
Bridger

Larry Jaques responds:

I worry quite a bit about it too, that's why they're tightened down so they
can't be yanked off. Those things are heavy!!!!

Makes sense to me. I'm way past the stage where I have to worry about
underage
trespassers in my shop, but the thought of a 3' or 4' K body clunking Junior
on
the noggin isn't a pleasant one.

Yeah, go ahead and protect them right out of existence, guys.
The first bad thing that happens to them in -real- life may
kill them if they're not prepared for the unexpected. Besides,
remember back when we wore scars as signs of life experience?

To each their own.

Huh? I'm not exactly sure how keeping a 5 or 6 year old from yanking a clamp
down on his head is protecting him out of existence. Care to explain?

I've always kept kids out of my shop, or been right with them and watching, but
that's not possible for all people in all shops, and no matter how a person's
good medical insurance is, cracking the skull on a kindergartner is not
sensible practice, IMO.

And, yeah, I know they should be taught to leave things alone. I was and I've
got the scars to prove it doesn't work all the time.

Charlie Self
"Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves."
Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html

On 14 Jan 2004 08:36:48 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
brought forth from the murky depths:

Larry Jaques responds:

I worry quite a bit about it too, that's why they're tightened down so they
can't be yanked off. Those things are heavy!!!!

Makes sense to me. I'm way past the stage where I have to worry about
underage
trespassers in my shop, but the thought of a 3' or 4' K body clunking Junior
on
the noggin isn't a pleasant one.

Yeah, go ahead and protect them right out of existence, guys.
The first bad thing that happens to them in -real- life may
kill them if they're not prepared for the unexpected. Besides,
remember back when we wore scars as signs of life experience?

To each their own.

Huh? I'm not exactly sure how keeping a 5 or 6 year old from yanking a clamp
down on his head is protecting him out of existence. Care to explain?

Agreed, kids don't belong in a shop, but when they're there, they
will learn what not to pull down on top of themselves. The vast
majority will survive the knocks and bruises of growing up. Those
whose parents have removed all dangers from their lives will die
at the first sign of trouble when the parents aren't watching or
after they've flown the coop. Darwin has his ways, y'know. He and
the Reaper are buddies. If our parents had kept all danger away
from us, would we have learned how to avoid it now?


I've always kept kids out of my shop, or been right with them and watching, but
that's not possible for all people in all shops, and no matter how a person's
good medical insurance is, cracking the skull on a kindergartner is not
sensible practice, IMO.

Hey, smart kids quickly learn how to duck. I still say:

Spare the Bessey, spoil the child.(tmLJ)


And, yeah, I know they should be taught to leave things alone. I was and I've
got the scars to prove it doesn't work all the time.

See? We're still proud of 'em and we're smarter for it.


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Huh? I'm not exactly sure how keeping a 5 or 6 year old from yanking a
clamp
down on his head is protecting him out of existence. Care to explain?

Agreed, kids don't belong in a shop, but when they're there, they
will learn what not to pull down on top of themselves. The vast
majority will survive the knocks and bruises of growing up. Those
whose parents have removed all dangers from their lives will die
at the first sign of trouble when the parents aren't watching or
after they've flown the coop. Darwin has his ways, y'know. He and
the Reaper are buddies. If our parents had kept all danger away
from us, would we have learned how to avoid it now?


I've always encouraged them to come into the shop and ask questions.
Education is the best weapon against injury but they'll still be kids and
will hurt them selves. My original post wasn't about trying to keep the
kids safe, I can do my best at that. I wanted to know if keeping clamps
stored in a tightened position would hurt them over time.

Creamy Goodness wrote:

My original post wasn't about trying to keep the
kids safe, I can do my best at that. I wanted to know if keeping clamps
stored in a tightened position would hurt them over time.

Yes, as the kids heads get larger the pressure from the clamp will start
to hurt them.
--
Froz ...

In article ,
Bridger wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:36:50 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:


I store my bar clamps between the floor joists in the ceiling of my
basement shop. A screwed some pieces of 1x3 between various joists and
just slip the clamps on top of those.

It's not as convenient to get them out and put them away as some of the
fancy clamp storage furniture I've seen, but I can't afford to give away
any floor space so I get creative with storage.



it would be very inconvenient in my shop. the ceiling is 12 feet
up....
Bridger

Was that supposed to be some kind of gloat?

My basement ceiling is kind of low (about 7' 8" to the subfloor, maybe
7' even to the bottom of the joists). What I wouldn't give for another
6 inches of headroom.

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news
Hey, smart kids quickly learn how to duck. I still say:

Spare the Bessey, spoil the child.(tmLJ)

Dad? Dad? Izzthat you???

'Creamy',
Education AND constant observation/vigilance until they are 'of an age to
appreciate' {varies from individual}. A skinned knuckle is a 'learning
experience', 'dismemberment' is another story.

Back to the question . . . as a matter of principle I never store anything
'tightened down' - not my Vise-Grips, Clamps, or handgun hammers.

My 'Woodworker's Clamps' are turned to just touch & aligned, then stored in
a large,clear, plastic box under the 'big bench'. The 'sliding clamps' to
18in are also in that box. Some of the 4 inch ones go in the 'bucket seat'
along with some large plastic 'squeeze clamps'. The 48 inch 'sliding clamps,
and the 50in 'Grip Clamp' hang on a large 'utility' hook screwed into a
joist at the rear of the shop. My 'C' clamps are 'self aligning' and stored
on the 'clothes pole' of a closet beside my downstairs 'small bench'. They
are opened to somewhat smaller than the diameter of the pole. My 50in 'flat'
clamps, more 48in sliding clamps, and the 111inch rolls of background paper
are 'slung' on a couple of inverted "T" holders I fabricated from PVC pipe
attached to the basement joists. The 60in 'Pipe Clamps' just lean against
the right-angle juncture between two shelf units.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{You can NEVER have 'too many' clamps !!}

"Creamy Goodness" creamy at agbf1942 dot com wrote in message
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SNIP
I've always encouraged them to come into the shop and ask questions.
Education is the best weapon against injury but they'll still be kids and
will hurt them selves. My original post wasn't about trying to keep the
kids safe, I can do my best at that. I wanted to know if keeping clamps
stored in a tightened position would hurt them over time.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:29:30 -0700, "Creamy Goodness" creamy at
agbf1942 dot com wrote:

I have a 2x4 nailed horizontally to the framing
in my garage which works perfectly for this. One question that troubles me
though. When storing them, I clamp them down so as not to fall off. I
tighten them enough to hold without slipping off and so the kids couldn't
pull them off.

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to speak.

I like to store clamps in the fully open position, so that they are
ready to hand for glue-ups (I'm even fussy enough to set the handles
so that only the first line of thread is showing above, as glue-ups
can be a frantic process that thrives on being able to grab the clamps
with each being in the same condition of openness). I used to store
my clamps on a two by four as you do but had two by fours fastened
through the edges, at a position down towards the handle, so that the
clamps hung at an angle, rather than hanging vertically. I don't
think that storing the clamps closed, with moderate pressure, will
hurt them - but they will not be ready to do what they are intended to
do.

If you have a sufficient number of clamps, I would recommend making a
clamp roll around, as it can be a great help during glue-up.

Mine is shown at:

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/page28.htm


Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...

Makes sense to me. I'm way past the stage where I have to worry about
underage
trespassers in my shop, but the thought of a 3' or 4' K body clunking
Junior on
the noggin isn't a pleasant one.

Yeah, go ahead and protect them right out of existence, guys.
The first bad thing that happens to them in -real- life may
kill them if they're not prepared for the unexpected. Besides,
remember back when we wore scars as signs of life experience?



I wish my daughter was still interested in hanging out in the shop with me.
When she was 1-1/2 to about 8 years old she was in the shop with me all the
time. give her a few sticks of scrap, a hammer and a box of nails and she
was busy making things for hours!
She really wants a computer desk and a book shelf. I have hinted that she
could help me build them and I get this "look" that only a teen ager can
give!

One time when she was two years old she wandered into the shop. I had an old
furance blower running, melting ice of the car. Of course the blower had an
exposed drive belt. She looked it over, and seemed pretty mesmerized by it.
So before she went any farther I dropped an old shop rag into the belt. The
rag spun around one pulley a few times, then a few trips around the other,
before it escaped and flew into the air. It could not have come out better.
As she was standing there with wide eyes over the specticle. I asked her
what would happen if that rag was her finger! Her eyes got bigger yet and
she thrust her hands into her pockets and took a step back from the blower!
Never had to worry about fingers getting where they did not belong!
Greg

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:36:40 -0500, Tom Watson
wrote:


I like to store clamps in the fully open position, so that they are
ready to hand for glue-ups

Absolutely.



(I'm even fussy enough to set the handles
so that only the first line of thread is showing above, as glue-ups
can be a frantic process that thrives on being able to grab the clamps
with each being in the same condition of openness).

My assistant right now has a habit of setting the screws all of the
way open. too far, such that when you slip it into place and push the
jaw up to the wood you don't have any room on the thread to back off a
tad so's you can shift the clamp a bit before driving it home. then
you gotta take the clamp back off, twiddle the screw a bit, try again.

Gotta break her of that habit.


I used to store
my clamps on a two by four as you do but had two by fours fastened
through the edges, at a position down towards the handle, so that the
clamps hung at an angle, rather than hanging vertically.

I'm getting closer to having a plan for a roll around clamp rack. I'm
thinking it will have vertical storage for bar clamps, maybe a couple
of drawers for C clamps, a shelf for glue and another drawer for
biscuits and dowels. and somewhere to keep spring clamps.



I don't
think that storing the clamps closed, with moderate pressure, will
hurt them - but they will not be ready to do what they are intended to
do.

If you have a sufficient number of clamps, I would recommend making a
clamp roll around, as it can be a great help during glue-up.

Mine is shown at:

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/page28.htm



I'll trade ya
; ^ )

Bridger





Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:20:17 -0700, Bridger wrote:

lamps hung at an angle, rather than hanging vertically.

I'm getting closer to having a plan for a roll around clamp rack. I'm
thinking it will have vertical storage for bar clamps, maybe a couple
of drawers for C clamps, a shelf for glue and another drawer for
biscuits and dowels. and somewhere to keep spring clamps.

I have one based on a Woodsmith article - love it. Holds pipe clamps, bar
clamps, C-clamps, scissors clamps, glue, bins for screws/nails/anything
else. Only has a footprint of 20" x 36" and 5.5' tall.

-Doug

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:24:17 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:


it would be very inconvenient in my shop. the ceiling is 12 feet
up....
Bridger

Was that supposed to be some kind of gloat?

yeah I guess so....




My basement ceiling is kind of low (about 7' 8" to the subfloor, maybe
7' even to the bottom of the joists). What I wouldn't give for another
6 inches of headroom.



just dig the floor down another 6 inches
; ^ )
Bridger

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:20:49 GMT, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:20:17 -0700, Bridger wrote:

lamps hung at an angle, rather than hanging vertically.

I'm getting closer to having a plan for a roll around clamp rack. I'm
thinking it will have vertical storage for bar clamps, maybe a couple
of drawers for C clamps, a shelf for glue and another drawer for
biscuits and dowels. and somewhere to keep spring clamps.

I have one based on a Woodsmith article - love it. Holds pipe clamps, bar
clamps, C-clamps, scissors clamps, glue, bins for screws/nails/anything
else. Only has a footprint of 20" x 36" and 5.5' tall.

-Doug



post a picture?

"Bridger" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:36:40 -0500, Tom Watson
wrote:


I like to store clamps in the fully open position, so that they are
ready to hand for glue-ups

Absolutely.



(I'm even fussy enough to set the handles
so that only the first line of thread is showing above, as glue-ups
can be a frantic process that thrives on being able to grab the clamps
with each being in the same condition of openness).

My assistant right now has a habit of setting the screws all of the
way open. too far, such that when you slip it into place and push the
jaw up to the wood you don't have any room on the thread to back off a
tad so's you can shift the clamp a bit before driving it home. then
you gotta take the clamp back off, twiddle the screw a bit, try again.

Gotta break her of that habit.


I used to store
my clamps on a two by four as you do but had two by fours fastened
through the edges, at a position down towards the handle, so that the
clamps hung at an angle, rather than hanging vertically.

I'm getting closer to having a plan for a roll around clamp rack. I'm
thinking it will have vertical storage for bar clamps, maybe a couple
of drawers for C clamps, a shelf for glue and another drawer for
biscuits and dowels. and somewhere to keep spring clamps.

That's what I ended up doing after sprinting around the shop during glueups
to get ....just one more! A also made a home for the sanders and paper so
assembly/finishing is nonaerobic now.




I don't
think that storing the clamps closed, with moderate pressure, will
hurt them - but they will not be ready to do what they are intended to
do.

If you have a sufficient number of clamps, I would recommend making a
clamp roll around, as it can be a great help during glue-up.

Mine is shown at:

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/page28.htm



I'll trade ya
; ^ )

Bridger





Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:52:20 -0700, "Creamy Goodness" creamy at
agbf1942 dot com brought forth from the murky depths:

I've always encouraged them to come into the shop and ask questions.
Education is the best weapon against injury but they'll still be kids and
will hurt them selves. My original post wasn't about trying to keep the
kids safe, I can do my best at that.

Right, education followed by bandaids is the best teaching system.


I wanted to know if keeping clamps
stored in a tightened position would hurt them over time.

Probably not, but why chance it? I'm going to be building a
rolling clamp tree RSN. I have one cabinet half made and need
to get tools off the shelves, out of boxes, and into a usable
system. The side-of-the-rolling-assembly-cart storage I created
ain't woikin'. A tree they could pull down onto themselves and
do real damage, but a single clamp would be easy enough to semi-
escape for a quick little kid. Damn, remember when WE had reflexes
like that? sigh


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'Tommy Boy',
Nice looking 'shop' photos . . . what's with the 'waterfall/dam' ? . . . the
view out your back window. You know, nobody *really* likes a Show Off.

How about a more recent shot . . . like late this afternoon when the
temperature drops to about ZERO !!

Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{"Now where was that address for the DN Iceboat plans ??"}

"Tom Watson" wrote in message
...
SNIP
If you have a sufficient number of clamps, I would recommend making a
clamp roll around, as it can be a great help during glue-up.

Mine is shown at:

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/page28.htm


Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:46:07 GMT, "Ron Magen" wrote:


Nice looking 'shop' photos . . . what's with the 'waterfall/dam' ? . . . the
view out your back window. You know, nobody *really* likes a Show Off.


Yeah, shop is next to the stream, a little downstream from the dam.
Unfortunately, the stream was redirected by the big storm this summer
and breached the wingwall, so the dam/waterfall is dry and silent.
The township is gonna put the stream back in its original channel this
Spring.



Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

"Bridger" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:20:49 GMT, Doug Winterburn
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:20:17 -0700, Bridger wrote:

lamps hung at an angle, rather than hanging vertically.

I'm getting closer to having a plan for a roll around clamp rack. I'm
thinking it will have vertical storage for bar clamps, maybe a couple
of drawers for C clamps, a shelf for glue and another drawer for
biscuits and dowels. and somewhere to keep spring clamps.

I have one based on a Woodsmith article - love it. Holds pipe clamps,
bar
clamps, C-clamps, scissors clamps, glue, bins for screws/nails/anything
else. Only has a footprint of 20" x 36" and 5.5' tall.

-Doug



post a picture?

Yes please. Tom's looks great, but a little too big for my workshop. BTW -
Tom, got plans for the waterfall?

BTW - Creamy Goodness, the name I post under, is my on-line gaming name. My
other hobby is computer games and I've been using that for years as my tag.
I post in a few game-related NG's so I'm lazy about changing it when I post
here. (Someone asked?)

Mike Rinken

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:29:30 -0700, "Creamy Goodness" creamy at
agbf1942 dot com wrote:

I got lucky during the clamp fiasco at Woodcraft and proudly display my
collection in my workshop. I have a 2x4 nailed horizontally to the framing
in my garage which works perfectly for this. One question that troubles me
though. When storing them, I clamp them down so as not to fall off. I
tighten them enough to hold without slipping off and so the kids couldn't
pull them off.

But the question is should they be stored not clamped down? I want to make
sure I'm not going to harm them by storing them under pressure so to speak.

Many thanks in anticipation of an answer!

Mike Rinken


Not sure. But it is actually better to store clamps not under
pressure as that makes it easier to use. I have a storage clamp area
where my bar clamps, C clamps, K-Body, pipe clamps, Quick clamps,
Jorgensen bar clamps, spring clamps, web clamps, etc are all stored
where I can get to quickly. I put turnbuckles on the long clamps to
keep them from falling, but they are still slanted up against the
wall.

On 13 Jan 2004 18:04:50 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:

I don't know what the official line is, but I store most clamps lightly close,
some more tightly (heavier handled clamps fall off more easily). Spring clamps
are stored clamped to a board, as the only other way I know of is to toss the
lot in a bucket and have a blast sorting out one when it's needed. If the studs
are open in your shop, you might nail a board across part way up and stick the
bar clamps (including pipe clamps) behind that.

All of my spring clamps are hung on an old curtain rod that was
installed over one of the windows in my shop. They're always
available but out of the way and can easily be sorted by size.

My bar clamps ended up being hooked over a long dowel hung between two
joists along the short wall by the door. Again, simple to sort and
get to, yet out of the way.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:02:28 -0700, Bridger wrote:


post a picture?

I'll do a couple in the morning on abpw.

-Doug