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Guy LaRochelle January 6th 04 03:57 AM

Workbench top?
 
I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench? Regards. -Guy



Bruce January 6th 04 04:15 AM

Workbench top?
 
In rec.woodworking
"Guy LaRochelle" wrote:

I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench?


You can make a suitable workbench from planed and glued-up pine 2x4s so I'm
sure birch would be quite suitable. Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.

Greg January 6th 04 04:23 AM

Workbench top?
 
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple bench top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something. Don't y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?

Guy LaRochelle January 6th 04 04:40 AM

Workbench top?
 
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a store to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada but not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple bench

top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something. Don't

y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?




Greg January 6th 04 04:56 AM

Workbench top?
 
I am in Florida, we don't have any maple around me and that's where Grainger
sold me mine. It was pickup. They do have them in the catalog but shipping will
get you. These are Edsal products (printed on the box) and you can see them on
the Edsal web site. This thing came packaged with the back brace for the
workbench, just no legs. They assemble their workbenches on modules. Buy what
you want. I am using this as a kitchen island top. The one I glued up was the
matching peninsula but it was longer than I could buy and has an irregular
shape on one end.

Bestest Handsander January 6th 04 05:30 AM

Workbench top?
 
Grizzly has them. I've never seen them in person, but I've seen them in
their catalog. Here's a link.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/item...emnumber=G9914

HTH


"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a store

to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada but

not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple bench

top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something. Don't

y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?






Bridger January 6th 04 05:31 AM

Workbench top?
 
birch is fine.




On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:57:46 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
wrote:

I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench? Regards. -Guy



Thomas & Jackie Bray January 6th 04 08:07 AM

Workbench top?
 
If you can locate an old solid door, 3/4 of your work is done for
you...That's what I decided on, at the suggested of my father.
"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
In rec.woodworking
"Guy LaRochelle" wrote:

I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does

anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench?


You can make a suitable workbench from planed and glued-up pine 2x4s so

I'm
sure birch would be quite suitable. Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.




Luigi Zanasi January 6th 04 08:30 AM

Workbench top?
 
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:57:46 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
wrote:

I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench? Regards. -Guy


On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 22:31:23 -0700, Bridger
scribbled:

birch is fine.


Yup. Mine is Douglas Fir with a couple of birch pieces where the dog
holes go. If you want a maple slab, you can get one at Lee Valley.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...rency=1&S ID=


Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" for real email address

Mike G January 6th 04 02:48 PM

Workbench top?
 
Being a work bench, with work being the key word, I really don't see any big
working advantage to a maple top. My present bench is now about 15 years old
and is made up of laminated fir. Works just fine and If it gets messed up,
dinged, dented, spilled on, needs a hole here or there, etc I'd don't
cringe, just sand/plane it down every few years. .

--
Mike G.

Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does

anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench? Regards. -Guy





Dave Keith January 6th 04 03:31 PM

Workbench top?
 
What about Windsor Plywood on Miller Ave in Saskatoon. They sell maple :)

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a store

to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada but

not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple bench

top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something. Don't

y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?






Slowhand January 6th 04 03:35 PM

Workbench top?
 

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple.


Mine is made from a solid core birch door. Very heavy duty.
SH



Ray Waterman January 6th 04 06:04 PM

Workbench top?
 
Guy

I got the rough maple for my workbench from the Windsor Plywood in
Langley BC. Check with your local Windsor to see if they bring in any
there. The wood I got was ~1" thick and a variety of widths and
lengths. My jointer, planer and table saw turned it into the top
below.

http://www.jenarae.com/wood/workbench1.jpg

Ray

"Dave Keith" wrote in message news:CzAKb.4119$Ur.203376@localhost...
What about Windsor Plywood on Miller Ave in Saskatoon. They sell maple :)

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a store

to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada but

not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


Greg G. January 6th 04 07:55 PM

Workbench top?
 
Guy LaRochelle said:

I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench? Regards. -Guy


I made my top from Southern Yellow Pine, and works great. Maple was
too pricey for me! As long as the birch is firm, and has no pith or
soft spots, it should be fine.

http://videodoc.home.mindspring.com/...orkBench01.jpg

http://videodoc.home.mindspring.com/...orkbench02.jpg

FWIW,


Greg G.

Guy LaRochelle January 7th 04 12:37 AM

Workbench top?
 
Hey!

Nice to here someone from home............are you from Saskatoon? Do you
happen to know what the price of the maple is? Regards. -Guy


"Dave Keith" wrote in message
news:CzAKb.4119$Ur.203376@localhost...
What about Windsor Plywood on Miller Ave in Saskatoon. They sell maple :)

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a store

to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada but

not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple

bench
top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost

more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something.

Don't
y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?








Guy LaRochelle January 7th 04 12:38 AM

Workbench top?
 
Ray,

Nice bench. Thanks for the info. Regards. -Guy



"Ray Waterman" wrote in message
m...
Guy

I got the rough maple for my workbench from the Windsor Plywood in
Langley BC. Check with your local Windsor to see if they bring in any
there. The wood I got was ~1" thick and a variety of widths and
lengths. My jointer, planer and table saw turned it into the top
below.

http://www.jenarae.com/wood/workbench1.jpg

Ray

"Dave Keith" wrote in message

news:CzAKb.4119$Ur.203376@localhost...
What about Windsor Plywood on Miller Ave in Saskatoon. They sell maple

:)

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but

I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a

store
to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada

but
not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy




Guy LaRochelle January 7th 04 12:40 AM

Workbench top?
 
Greg,

Nice bench and thanks for the info. I see in your pictures that you have a
Delta jointer............what size is it? How do you like it? Regards. -Guy


Greg G. wrote in message
...
Guy LaRochelle said:

I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does

anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench? Regards. -Guy


I made my top from Southern Yellow Pine, and works great. Maple was
too pricey for me! As long as the birch is firm, and has no pith or
soft spots, it should be fine.

http://videodoc.home.mindspring.com/...orkBench01.jpg

http://videodoc.home.mindspring.com/...orkbench02.jpg

FWIW,


Greg G.




Mark & Juanita January 7th 04 02:22 AM

Workbench top?
 
In article , says...
Grizzly has them. I've never seen them in person, but I've seen them in
their catalog. Here's a link.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/item...emnumber=G9914

HTH


I bought two of them. Would do it again, I have had them for about 2
years and they have worked well. I could not have bought the wood and
laminated it for the price I paid for the tops, even with shipping.



"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a store

to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada but

not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple bench

top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something. Don't

y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?







Greg G. January 7th 04 07:04 AM

Workbench top?
 
Guy LaRochelle said:

Greg,

Nice bench and thanks for the info. I see in your pictures that you have a
Delta jointer............what size is it? How do you like it? Regards. -Guy


Thanks. Yes, I have a 6" DJ - it works great. They had a few
problems with warping fences on the earlier models, but I got a later,
improved version with a new casting - it's straight within .002" and
no problems at all. Fairly quiet for a jointer, and I love the
longer, taller fence.


Greg G.

Guy LaRochelle January 7th 04 03:00 PM

Workbench top?
 
Greg,

Do you find that a 6" is large enough or would an 8" be worth the price
difference? Regards. -Guy



Greg G. wrote in message
...
Guy LaRochelle said:

Greg,

Nice bench and thanks for the info. I see in your pictures that you have

a
Delta jointer............what size is it? How do you like it?

Regards. -Guy

Thanks. Yes, I have a 6" DJ - it works great. They had a few
problems with warping fences on the earlier models, but I got a later,
improved version with a new casting - it's straight within .002" and
no problems at all. Fairly quiet for a jointer, and I love the
longer, taller fence.


Greg G.




Dave Balderstone January 7th 04 07:08 PM

Workbench top?
 
In article , Guy LaRochelle
wrote:

Nice to here someone from home............are you from Saskatoon? Do you
happen to know what the price of the maple is? Regards.


When I did my bench I laminated maple T&G flooring from Windsor Ply on
Millar to a solid core door.

Pics at http://www.balderstone.ca/workbench/

(Yeah, I'm in S'toon...)

djb

--
There are no socks in my email address.

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

Greg G. January 7th 04 07:17 PM

Workbench top?
 
Guy LaRochelle said:

Greg,

Do you find that a 6" is large enough or would an 8" be worth the price
difference? Regards. -Guy


I've had no need of a larger one - yet. Very seldom do I use stock
wider than 6", as it tends to cup and twist when wider. The
considerable price jump into the 8" and up jointers is financially
unfeasible for me. Mostly I use it for edge jointing boards for glue
up and straightening framing stock. I have a 13" planer as well -
between the two I have not run into anything reasonable I couldn't
work with. A nice 48" flat-bed drum sander would be nice, but...
FWIW,

Greg G.

BRuce January 7th 04 10:22 PM

Workbench top?
 
what wood was the base made from? Looks very sturdy and usable.

BRuce

Dave Balderstone wrote:

In article , Guy LaRochelle
wrote:


Nice to here someone from home............are you from Saskatoon? Do you
happen to know what the price of the maple is? Regards.



When I did my bench I laminated maple T&G flooring from Windsor Ply on
Millar to a solid core door.

Pics at http://www.balderstone.ca/workbench/

(Yeah, I'm in S'toon...)

djb


--
---

BRuce

Dave Balderstone January 7th 04 11:24 PM

Workbench top?
 
In article 1073514308.979434@sj-nntpcache-3, BRuce wrote:

what wood was the base made from? Looks very sturdy and usable.


Just your standard SPF 4x4, 2x6 and 2x8, painted brown with an exterior
stain.

djb

--
There are no socks in my email address.

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

Dave Keith January 13th 04 08:17 PM

Workbench top?
 
The have a lot of maple ! Standard maple is $8.90 /bf, 'birdseye' is
$12.90 (these are Canadian$). They also have a lot of bowl blanks and other
turning blanks, all at fixed prices.

"Dave Keith" wrote in message
news:8zXKb.4298$Ur.211018@localhost...
Yep, I live in Saskatoon. And no, not off the top of my head, but I gotta
go pick up some wood and will check.

Dave

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
Hey!

Nice to here someone from home............are you from Saskatoon? Do you
happen to know what the price of the maple is? Regards. -Guy


"Dave Keith" wrote in message
news:CzAKb.4119$Ur.203376@localhost...
What about Windsor Plywood on Miller Ave in Saskatoon. They sell

maple
:)

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches

but
I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a

store
to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada

but
not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple

bench
top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost

more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something.

Don't
y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?











daryl1138 January 14th 04 02:47 AM

Workbench top?
 
I am planning on going the pine 2 x 4 route but I would like to have
bench dogs as well and I am concerned about these prematurely
elongating. If I were to alternate in a few strips of hardwood at the
dog locations would I run into any significant shrink/expansion
problems? If so, any recommendation to counter it?

(Bruce) wrote in message ...
In rec.woodworking
"Guy LaRochelle" wrote:

I have been studying everyones work benches and noticed that most of them
are built out of maple. I understand that maple is very hard but I don't
think it is readily available where I live (Sask, Canada). Birch is very
common here but is it anywhere close to being as hard as maple? Does anyone
see anything wrong with using birch for a work bench?


You can make a suitable workbench from planed and glued-up pine 2x4s so I'm
sure birch would be quite suitable. Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


Conan the Librarian January 14th 04 01:45 PM

Workbench top?
 
(daryl1138) wrote in message om...

I am planning on going the pine 2 x 4 route but I would like to have
bench dogs as well and I am concerned about these prematurely
elongating. If I were to alternate in a few strips of hardwood at the
dog locations would I run into any significant shrink/expansion
problems? If so, any recommendation to counter it?


Some folks recommend lining the dogholes with harder material, or
even drilling an oversize doghole, plugging it with hardwood and then
drilling your hole centered in the hardwood.

Personally, my top is made of laminated SYP (slightly less than 3"
thick) and I have noticed no signs of the dogholes elongating. (I've
been using it since February of 2001, so it's not old, but it's seen
almost daily use since then.)

I guess it partially depends on how you use dogs/dogholes as well.
I don't use them bearing against a face vise, rather I usually use
"Wonderdogs" in pairs, or little 6" clamps as hold-downs for planing
stops.

You could always start using the bench and see how they wear. If
it becomes a problem (most likely in *years*, not months), you could
either build your "ideal" bench, or retrofit your current one.


Chuck Vance

Charlie Self January 14th 04 02:38 PM

Workbench top?
 
Chuck Vance writes:

Some folks recommend lining the dogholes with harder material, or
even drilling an oversize doghole, plugging it with hardwood and then
drilling your hole centered in the hardwood.

Personally, my top is made of laminated SYP (slightly less than 3"
thick) and I have noticed no signs of the dogholes elongating. (I've
been using it since February of 2001, so it's not old, but it's seen
almost daily use since then.)


But leave us remember, there is pine and there is SYP, which is a LOT harder.
Anyone who doesn't believe that should try framing a couple rooms with the
stuff, using a hammer instead of a pneumatic nailer. It has been 20+ years, but
my hand still aches when I think about it.

Somewhat like framing with red oak, except that with the oak you expect the
hardness.

Charlie Self
"Take care of the luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves."
Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html

The Firehouse January 15th 04 07:24 PM

Workbench top?
 
If you're patient and have access to some hardwood pallets and a
thickness planer....

There's lots of maple pallets out there. cut them into 2" slats and
laminate them up. It'd make a super solid top. Take the time to lay it
out properly and make sure you add holes for your dogs before you glue
it up (if you're using square dogs).

Jeff


On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:41:21 -0600, "Dave Keith"
wrote:

Yep, I live in Saskatoon. And no, not off the top of my head, but I gotta
go pick up some wood and will check.

Dave

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
Hey!

Nice to here someone from home............are you from Saskatoon? Do you
happen to know what the price of the maple is? Regards. -Guy


"Dave Keith" wrote in message
news:CzAKb.4119$Ur.203376@localhost...
What about Windsor Plywood on Miller Ave in Saskatoon. They sell maple

:)

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
I checked the Grainger website and they have complete work benches but

I
didn't see just the maple top.........do you have to go right to a

store
to
buy the top alone? I think there is alot of maple in eastern Canada

but
not
here in Saskatchewan. Do you guys get maple shipped to you from long
distances or do you have some locally? Regards. -Guy


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Maple is awesome but VERY expensive
for a workbench and most of us can't afford it.


If you have a Grainger near you they will sell you a 30"x72" maple

bench
top
for about $200. I bought one and glued one up. The one I made cost

more.

BTW I thought the maple was the Canada national tree or something.

Don't
y'all
have a maple leaf on your flag?










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