Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

It's OK for the Speaker of the House and other government officials not
empowered by the constitution for foreign negotiations or ex-president
Carter to meet with terrorists and leaders of terror-supporting countries
and to criticize their country from foreign lands, but this was somehow
wrong.

I truly fear for our country.

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

Mark & Juanita wrote:

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

It's OK for the Speaker of the House and other government officials not
empowered by the constitution for foreign negotiations or ex-president
Carter to meet with terrorists and leaders of terror-supporting countries
and to criticize their country from foreign lands, but this was somehow
wrong.

I truly fear for our country.

Well ya know what they say?? The democrat party is made up of wimps,
whiners, hippies and pinko mama's boys. And what hole did they dig up
Daschel out of? I'm surprised Obama or handlers didn't come out and scream
racism after Bush's remarks.
What a bunch of cry babies and they want to run this country. God Help US
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

No, but Obama and Pelosi have. Their taking offense suggests that they
know in their own hearts that their approach to terrorism is
appeasement.

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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On May 16, 12:49*am, Mark & Juanita wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

* Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

Bush undermined the next president of the US's authority. Made him
look bad in front of a foreign nation's TV cameras.
When Obama sit the Iranians down for a chat, he will have the same
hammer in his back pocket as Bush likes to wield with bravado.
The difference is that he won't start off his dialogue with threats
and being an asshole, but the Iranians will know that hammer still
exists.

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

But hey, if you can't win any other way, how about a glass parking
lot?

Next time you read your bible, Mark, don't skip over the important
parts.

On May 16, 1:39*am, evodawg wrote:

I'm surprised Obama or handlers didn't come out and scream
racism after Bush's remarks.

Do you really believe that Bush isn't bothered by the prospect that a
black man is about to take his job and do it right?
Do you really believe that Hillary can reconcile in her mind that
she's losing to a black man?

If you believe that, than everybody's come a long way, and I
congratulate you.

On May 16, 7:41*am, Robatoy wrote:
On May 16, 12:49*am, Mark & Juanita wrote: Lew Hodgett wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

* Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

Bush undermined the next president of the US's authority. Made him
look bad in front of a foreign nation's TV cameras.
When Obama sit the Iranians down for a chat, he will have the same
hammer in his back pocket as Bush likes to wield with bravado.
The difference is that he won't start off his dialogue with threats
and being an asshole, but the Iranians will know that hammer still
exists.

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

The following part does not refer to Chamberlain's screw-up:

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

But hey, if you can't win any other way, how about a glass parking
lot?

Next time you read your bible, Mark, don't skip over the important
parts.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'


Welllll, the Iranian's were not too impressed with diplomacy then they kid
napped our embassy 30 years ago. Carter, handled every thing in his usual
way, dysfunctionaly. Oddly with the threat of a republican president coming
into office the prisoners were released.

On May 16, 8:57*am, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

Welllll, *the Iranian's were not too impressed with diplomacy then they kid
napped our embassy 30 years ago. *Carter, handled every thing in his usual
way, dysfunctionaly. *Oddly with the threat of a republican president coming
into office the prisoners were released.

That may have been more a slight towards Carter than a fear of Reagan.
I said 'may'.

I thought Reagan was the best neighbour we ever had. It was his
foreign policy that appealed to me.
His relationship with Gorbachev ....no wait... he was appeasing?

Well, anyway, Reagan wasn't a right-wing nutjob. One can be
conservative without having one's head up one's ass.

evodawg wrote:
Mark & Juanita wrote:

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew
Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

It's OK for the Speaker of the House and other government officials not
empowered by the constitution for foreign negotiations or ex-president
Carter to meet with terrorists and leaders of terror-supporting countries
and to criticize their country from foreign lands, but this was somehow
wrong.

I truly fear for our country.

Well ya know what they say?? The democrat party is made up of wimps,
whiners, hippies and pinko mama's boys. And what hole did they dig up
Daschel out of? I'm surprised Obama or handlers didn't come out and scream
racism after Bush's remarks.
What a bunch of cry babies and they want to run this country. God Help US


A lot of Depression-era folks have been life-long Democrats because they
perceived FDR as the country's savior. I personally don't like FDR's
policies that led to massive expansion of the federal government, but at
least compared to today's crop FDR had some big brass cojones. Today's
Democrats don't realize that in the current political climate as
compared to by the 1940's and 50's, FDR would probably be a Republican
today (probably JFK too), and a half century ago today's Democrats would
have been considered socialists if not Communists.

Just Wondering wrote:


A lot of Depression-era folks have been life-long Democrats because they
perceived FDR as the country's savior. I personally don't like FDR's
policies that led to massive expansion of the federal government, but at
least compared to today's crop FDR had some big brass cojones. Today's
Democrats don't realize that in the current political climate as
compared to by the 1940's and 50's, FDR would probably be a Republican
today (probably JFK too), and a half century ago today's Democrats would
have been considered socialists if not Communists.

I have said for years, The Republican Party = Democrat Party The Democrat
Party = Communist Party

-
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586

On May 16, 9:26 am, Robatoy wrote:
On May 16, 8:57 am, "Leon" wrote:


...

Welllll, the Iranian's were not too impressed with diplomacy then they kid
napped our embassy 30 years ago. Carter, handled every thing in his usual
way, dysfunctionaly. Oddly with the threat of a republican president coming
into office the prisoners were released.

That may have been more a slight towards Carter than a fear of Reagan.
I said 'may'.

By then the Iranians were defending against the Iraqi invasion and
realized that the hostages were a big impediment to receiving help
from abroad. They were nearly as anxious to end the situation as
Carter. The change of administration allowed them the opportunity
to do so wile claiming they had 'won' their confrontation with Carter.


I thought Reagan was the best neighbour we ever had. It was his
foreign policy that appealed to me.
His relationship with Gorbachev ....no wait... he was appeasing?

What was he doing when he sold weapons to Iran?


Well, anyway, Reagan wasn't a right-wing nutjob. One can be
conservative without having one's head up one's ass.

--

FF

On May 16, 12:49 am, Mark & Juanita wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?
...

Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

They should have just invoked Godwin's law.

--

FF

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:ycjXj.385$4K5.92@trnddc03...

"Robatoy" wrote:

Do you really believe that Bush isn't bothered by the prospect that a
black man is about to take his job and do it right?

Probably not concerned at all. The priest that married his daughter and
her fiance is black. Do it right? Ha!

On May 16, 3:42*pm, Fred the Red Shirt
wrote:
On May 16, 12:49 am, Mark & Juanita wrote:

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?
...

* Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

They should have just invoked Godwin's law.


That's the mention of Hillary ?

On May 16, 1:39*am, evodawg wrote:
Mark & Juanita wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:

Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

* Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

* It's OK for the Speaker of the House and other government officials not
empowered by the constitution for foreign negotiations or ex-president
Carter to meet with terrorists and leaders of terror-supporting countries
and to criticize their country from foreign lands, but this was somehow
wrong.

* I truly fear for our country.

Well ya know what they say?? The democrat party is made up of wimps,
whiners, hippies and pinko mama's boys. And what hole did they dig up
Daschel out of? I'm surprised Obama or handlers didn't come out and scream
racism after Bush's remarks.
What a bunch of cry babies and they want to run this country. God Help US
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586- Hide quoted text -

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Dear Mr. Dawg,

I am curious, what is the "democrat party"? Who are they and where do
they (the "wimps,
whiners, hippies and pinko mama's boys") hang out? I know Republican
and Democratic party members who are for the most part hard working,
patriotic Americans. Two people I have alot of respect for are my
father and uncle. One is a Republican and one is a Democrat. Both
served overseas in WW II.

Respectfully,
Bob

Lew Hodgett wrote:
: Shrub's speech in Israel

: Have his handlers totally lost it?

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_ro...ain/index.html

Robatoy wrote:

On May 16, 12:49Â*am, Mark & Juanita wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

Oh puhleeze. Is your candidate really this weak that a simple comment
warning against the dangers of appeasement makes all his supporters wet
themselves?

Bush undermined the next president of the US's authority. Made him
look bad in front of a foreign nation's TV cameras.

How? By warning against the policies of appeasement and pointing to the
historical record as to how appeasement NEVER works?

Yet, it's OK for the Speaker of the House, House and Senate leadership,
the former President (choke) Carter to sit down with terrorists and
terrorist supporters and undermine the policies of the sitting president of
the US? You really think that kind of thing helps solve problems and leads
to peace?

When Obama sit the Iranians down for a chat, he will have the same
hammer in his back pocket as Bush likes to wield with bravado.
The difference is that he won't start off his dialogue with threats
and being an asshole, but the Iranians will know that hammer still
exists.


It's remarks like this that make me thank the Lord that you are a
Canadian.


People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.


People that have listened to Obama's statements on his proposed foreign
policy and don't liken it to Chamberlain's approach don't know anything
about diplomacy.


It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.

It's called appeasement and it never works

I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

But hey, if you can't win any other way, how about a glass parking
lot?

Next time you read your bible, Mark, don't skip over the important
parts.

When you can't make your point with logic, never discount the power of ad
hominem




--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

Robatoy wrote:

On May 16, 8:57Â*am, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

Welllll, Â*the Iranian's were not too impressed with diplomacy then they
kid napped our embassy 30 years ago. Â*Carter, handled every thing in his
usual way, dysfunctionaly. Â*Oddly with the threat of a republican
president coming into office the prisoners were released.

That may have been more a slight towards Carter than a fear of Reagan.
I said 'may'.

I thought Reagan was the best neighbour we ever had. It was his
foreign policy that appealed to me.
His relationship with Gorbachev ....no wait... he was appeasing?


Yeah, walking out of Reykajavik (sp?) was appeasing. "The bombing starts
in 10 minutes" (Oh how the lib media went ape over that line -- it was a
joy to behold) was appeasement? "Mr. Gorbachav, tear down this wall!" was
appeasement? Star wars was appeasement? "Trust but verify" was
appeasement? It's easy to see why you don't see the historical perspective
of Chamberlain -- you don't even get the historical perspective and
approach of Reagan's policies vs. the "sit down and talk" approach of
Obama.


Well, anyway, Reagan wasn't a right-wing nutjob. One can be
conservative without having one's head up one's ass.

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

On May 16, 11:56*pm, Mark & Juanita wrote:


* It's remarks like this that make me thank the Lord that you are a
Canadian.


I thank the Lord many times every day as well that I am a Canadian.

On May 17, 12:00*am, Mark & Juanita wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On May 16, 8:57*am, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

Welllll, *the Iranian's were not too impressed with diplomacy then they
kid napped our embassy 30 years ago. *Carter, handled every thing in his
usual way, dysfunctionaly. *Oddly with the threat of a republican
president coming into office the prisoners were released.

That may have been more a slight towards Carter than a fear of Reagan.
I said 'may'.

I thought Reagan was the best neighbour we ever had. It was his
foreign policy that appealed to me.
His relationship with Gorbachev ....no wait... he was appeasing?

* Yeah, walking out of Reykajavik (sp?) was appeasing. *"The bombing starts
in 10 minutes" (Oh how the lib media went ape over that line -- it was a
joy to behold) was appeasement? *"Mr. Gorbachav, tear down this wall!" was
appeasement? *Star wars was appeasement? *"Trust but verify" was
appeasement?

No, that was grand-standing.

I'm sure there will be no grand-standing from B/O........

cm
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On May 17, 12:00 am, Mark & Juanita wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On May 16, 8:57 am, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

Welllll, the Iranian's were not too impressed with diplomacy then they
kid napped our embassy 30 years ago. Carter, handled every thing in his
usual way, dysfunctionaly. Oddly with the threat of a republican
president coming into office the prisoners were released.

That may have been more a slight towards Carter than a fear of Reagan.
I said 'may'.

I thought Reagan was the best neighbour we ever had. It was his
foreign policy that appealed to me.
His relationship with Gorbachev ....no wait... he was appeasing?

Yeah, walking out of Reykajavik (sp?) was appeasing. "The bombing starts
in 10 minutes" (Oh how the lib media went ape over that line -- it was a
joy to behold) was appeasement? "Mr. Gorbachav, tear down this wall!" was
appeasement? Star wars was appeasement? "Trust but verify" was
appeasement?

No, that was grand-standing.

The bible is a fairytale.

cm

Next time you read your bible, Mark, don't skip over the important
parts.

Leon wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...

People that liken Obama's approach to Chamberlain's don't know
anything about history.

It's called diplomacy, not gun-boat diplomacy.
I guess you have lost sight of the old adage which runs: 'Speak softly
and carry and big stick; you will go far.'

Doesn't sound like there's gonna be much stick left....

http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/20...disarm-america

On May 16, 12:16*am, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

How about his speech writers?

At an international conference of Arab notables, George W. Bush -
dared to pass himself off as a staunch defender of peace and freedom
in the world, as well as the reigning champion of political freedom
and women’s rights. According to the AP, he assumed a ‘decidedly
tougher tone,’ when making the following claims:

"America is deeply concerned about the plight of political prisoners
in this region, as well as democratic activists who are intimidated or
repressed, newspapers and civil society organizations that are shut
down and dissidents whose voices are stifled...I call on all nations
in this region to release their prisoners of conscience, open up their
political debate and trust their people to chart their future,"


You can't MAKE this **** up.... UNbelievable ....

I believe every word of B/O's........ Well maybe not.

cm
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On May 16, 12:16 am, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

How about his speech writers?

At an international conference of Arab notables, George W. Bush -
dared to pass himself off as a staunch defender of peace and freedom
in the world, as well as the reigning champion of political freedom
and women’s rights. According to the AP, he assumed a ‘decidedly
tougher tone,’ when making the following claims:

"America is deeply concerned about the plight of political prisoners
in this region, as well as democratic activists who are intimidated or
repressed, newspapers and civil society organizations that are shut
down and dissidents whose voices are stifled...I call on all nations
in this region to release their prisoners of conscience, open up their
political debate and trust their people to chart their future,"


You can't MAKE this **** up.... UNbelievable ....

well he is retarded, so give him a break it was our own fault(not mine,as I
did not vote for him) for letting him run the country into the ground.


Len
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On May 16, 12:16 am, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
Shrub's speech in Israel

Have his handlers totally lost it?

Lew

How about his speech writers?

At an international conference of Arab notables, George W. Bush -
dared to pass himself off as a staunch defender of peace and freedom
in the world, as well as the reigning champion of political freedom
and women’s rights. According to the AP, he assumed a ‘decidedly
tougher tone,’ when making the following claims:

"America is deeply concerned about the plight of political prisoners
in this region, as well as democratic activists who are intimidated or
repressed, newspapers and civil society organizations that are shut
down and dissidents whose voices are stifled...I call on all nations
in this region to release their prisoners of conscience, open up their
political debate and trust their people to chart their future,"


You can't MAKE this **** up.... UNbelievable ....