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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself
wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
Puckdropper wrote:
If you're talking about the "footballs" they use in plywood repairs, my guess would be physics. A circular plug would be able to spin, while a oval shaped one would not. This eliminates one more dimension the plug is able to move, hopefully producing a slightly stronger joint. I don't know about that one... G |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT There is less waste. You have less waste from the material it comes from than if it was a circle. If they were square there would be even less waste. Additionally they can cover a wider area, perhaps 3 small defects in a line more easily than a circle with out having to be made too large. |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On May 7, 9:00*am, "Leon" wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT There is less waste. *You have less waste from the material it comes from than if it was a circle. *If they were square there would be even less waste. Additionally they can cover a wider area, perhaps 3 small defects in a line more easily than a circle with out having to be made too large. I seem to recall someone telling me it was all about grain orientation. The 'less waste' angle seems plausible as well. |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
Because some bubba working in a plywood factory liked
that shape over anything else ??? He did it and then everybody else followed. I bet nobody remembers why ..... Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT Cause it's in the standard. "Boat" veneer patches are described and have a maximum dimension, length, width and end radius in the standard for manufacturing plywood. Please don't ask me how the standard became the standard. Frank |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On May 7, 2:24*am, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT So that it fits in the oval hole. Cam |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On May 7, 3:34*pm, Cam in Toronto wrote:
On May 7, 2:24*am, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT So that it fits in the oval hole. Cam Bananas are bent so they fit in the peel for the exact same reason. |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
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Everybody/everything gotta be someplace so they fit in. Lew |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
Cause it's in the standard. "Boat" veneer patches are described and have a maximum dimension, length, width and end radius in the standard for manufacturing plywood. Please don't ask me how the standard became the standard. Frank Now I'm curious how the standard became the standard. You insiduous *******!! P |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT Cause it's in the standard. "Boat" veneer patches are described and have a maximum dimension, length, width and end radius in the standard for manufacturing plywood. Please don't ask me how the standard became the standard. When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
Robatoy wrote:
On May 7, 3:34*pm, Cam in Toronto wrote: On May 7, 2:24*am, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT So that it fits in the oval hole. Cam Bananas are bent so they fit in the peel for the exact same reason. Bananas are bent because someone forgot to finish the back side and they warp. |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
"Robatoy" wrote On May 7, 3:34 pm, Cam in Toronto wrote: On May 7, 2:24 am, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? So that it fits in the oval hole. Bananas are bent so they fit in the peel for the exact same reason. They created straight bananas. No bend, no curves. They fit into shipping crates better and they could pack more of them into each box. That didn't last long. Nobody bought the bananas. People are funny that way. They want a curved banana, not a straight one. |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
Lee Michaels wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote On May 7, 3:34 pm, Cam in Toronto wrote: On May 7, 2:24 am, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? So that it fits in the oval hole. Bananas are bent so they fit in the peel for the exact same reason. They created straight bananas. No bend, no curves. They fit into shipping crates better and they could pack more of them into each box. That didn't last long. Nobody bought the bananas. People are funny that way. They want a curved banana, not a straight one. There are certain uses to which a curved banana is better suited. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On Wed, 7 May 2008 19:23:02 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: "Robatoy" wrote On May 7, 3:34 pm, Cam in Toronto wrote: On May 7, 2:24 am, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? So that it fits in the oval hole. Bananas are bent so they fit in the peel for the exact same reason. They created straight bananas. No bend, no curves. They fit into shipping crates better and they could pack more of them into each box. That didn't last long. Nobody bought the bananas. People are funny that way. They want a curved banana, not a straight one. A real bugger getting straight bananas to grow in bunches. The bunches look like big pine comes. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On Wed, 07 May 2008 20:26:58 -0400, clare at snyder dot ontario dot
canada wrote: On Wed, 7 May 2008 19:23:02 -0400, "Lee Michaels" wrote: "Robatoy" wrote On May 7, 3:34 pm, Cam in Toronto wrote: On May 7, 2:24 am, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? So that it fits in the oval hole. Bananas are bent so they fit in the peel for the exact same reason. They created straight bananas. No bend, no curves. They fit into shipping crates better and they could pack more of them into each box. That didn't last long. Nobody bought the bananas. People are funny that way. They want a curved banana, not a straight one. A real bugger getting straight bananas to grow in bunches. The bunches look like big pine comes. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** That's CONES, sorry. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message news:BCqUj.1325$Kf.308@trndny07... Frank Boettcher wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools wrote: Recently when I was working with plywood I again found myself wondering why plywood plugs are oval rather than circular. Anyone know why? Thanks TMT Cause it's in the standard. "Boat" veneer patches are described and have a maximum dimension, length, width and end radius in the standard for manufacturing plywood. Please don't ask me how the standard became the standard. When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. Now, *that* was good! |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote: When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. Thank you, Cliff, for that insightful explanation. So, Norm, how's Vera been treating you? |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote: When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. Of course! I knew there had to be a simple and plausible explanation. Reply-to address is real John |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
John wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. Of course! I knew there had to be a simple and plausible explanation. It's not as unlikely as it sounds. The Romans did know how to make plywood--they used it for their shields. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
"J. Clarke" wrote:
John wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. Of course! I knew there had to be a simple and plausible explanation. It's not as unlikely as it sounds. The Romans did know how to make plywood--they used it for their shields. Leather covered, IIRC. Then there is the composite bow ... And the railroad gauge story is not entirely implausible. The current standard gauge being the width of two horse's backsides. |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
On Sat, 10 May 2008 12:11:14 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote: John wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. Of course! I knew there had to be a simple and plausible explanation. It's not as unlikely as it sounds. The Romans did know how to make plywood--they used it for their shields. -- And therefor the oval shaped plugs - to patch the speer and lance holes. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Why are plywood plugs oval shaped?
clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 12:11:14 -0400, "J. Clarke" wrote: John wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: When the Romans invaded Spain, the Spanish were making plywood from Spanish Cedar. All of the plugs were oval because the Moors had not yet invaded Spain and given the circle to the Spanish. The Romans took the oval plug home and it became the Roman Army Standard for plywood plugs. And, just as with the guage of railroads, the Roman Army standard is in effect to this day. Of course! I knew there had to be a simple and plausible explanation. It's not as unlikely as it sounds. The Romans did know how to make plywood--they used it for their shields. -- And therefor the oval shaped plugs - to patch the speer and lance holes. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Nah, they got those from Spain. There's no word in Latin for o"oval plywood plug" but, There's a word in Spanish ... |
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