My problems with cordless tools is the limited run time before the next
charge. Its not a problem with drills as it could run for a long time but
for demanding loads like circular and reciprocation saws (my new DeWalt
cordless NiCad combo) the 5 minute run time paired with a one hour charger
doesn't cut it. For the reciprocating saw, the fully charged battery was
able to crosscut about six 6" dia soft wood before it needed a charge. Grab
the second battery and another six crosscuts was all she got. Makes a short
working day. Even with the lithium iron, the run time may not be more than
three times as much but should be enough when paired with a fast 15 minute
charger. I'll take my corded Super Sawzall next time.

Frank wrote:

Grab the second battery and another six
crosscuts was all she got. Makes a short working day. Even with the
lithium iron, the run time may not be more than three times as much
but should be enough when paired with a fast 15 minute charger. I'll
take my corded Super Sawzall next time.

I get the impression lots of folks use cordless tools as much because they
figure it's the cool way to go as opposed to it being something that makes
what they're doing way easier. It makes sense if you're up on a roof or
working someplace with no line power, but how many people are typically in
that situation? If you really need cordless then it makes sense to pick a
brand where one kind of battery can run ten different tools and then get a
bunch of batteries and a multi-battery charger. So far I've been able to
resist that, so far. ;~)

" Frank" wrote in message
. ..
My problems with cordless tools is the limited run time before the next
charge. Its not a problem with drills as it could run for a long time but
for demanding loads like circular and reciprocation saws (my new DeWalt
cordless NiCad combo) the 5 minute run time paired with a one hour charger
doesn't cut it. For the reciprocating saw, the fully charged battery was
able to crosscut about six 6" dia soft wood before it needed a charge.
Grab the second battery and another six crosscuts was all she got. Makes a
short working day. Even with the lithium iron, the run time may not be
more than three times as much but should be enough when paired with a fast
15 minute charger. I'll take my corded Super Sawzall next time.


I totally agree unless you have a specific need to make a few cuts where
there is no power available.
Other than that the drill, impact driver, and flash light are about the only
tools that I want to be cordless. Now if tool manufacturers would simply
come out with a battery shaped adapter with a tail so that you could use the
saws like a normal saw but still have the ability for the times you need to
cut with out power being available.

DGDevin wrote:
I get the impression lots of folks use cordless tools as much because they
figure it's the cool way to go as opposed to it being something that makes
what they're doing way easier. It makes sense if you're up on a roof or
working someplace with no line power, but how many people are typically in
that situation? If you really need cordless then it makes sense to pick a
brand where one kind of battery can run ten different tools and then get a
bunch of batteries and a multi-battery charger. So far I've been able to
resist that, so far. ;~)

Agreed. I use primarily corded tools because I never use them outside
of my shop and I never use them where I have no power to plug in. The
only exception are my cordless drills and drivers and all of them have
at least 3 batteries and one is always on the charger at all times. I
have never run into a case where I needed a battery and didn't have one
fully charged.

Most people who go cordless crazy are just people trying to look cool,
there's rarely a case where they're really needed.

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 21:48:18 GMT, Brian Henderson
wrote:

DGDevin wrote:
I get the impression lots of folks use cordless tools as much because they
figure it's the cool way to go as opposed to it being something that makes
what they're doing way easier. It makes sense if you're up on a roof or
working someplace with no line power, but how many people are typically in
that situation? If you really need cordless then it makes sense to pick a
brand where one kind of battery can run ten different tools and then get a
bunch of batteries and a multi-battery charger. So far I've been able to
resist that, so far. ;~)

Agreed. I use primarily corded tools because I never use them outside
of my shop and I never use them where I have no power to plug in. The
only exception are my cordless drills and drivers and all of them have
at least 3 batteries and one is always on the charger at all times. I
have never run into a case where I needed a battery and didn't have one
fully charged.

Most people who go cordless crazy are just people trying to look cool,
there's rarely a case where they're really needed.

Yep, me too.. (three?)

I have several cordless tools, but they rarely leave the shop.. maybe used on
the outside of the house or something..
Main reason I went cordless with the drills and stuff was to reduce the tangle
of cords on the bench... The suckers seem to tie themselves in knots when you
use 2 or 3 corded tools during a project..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

mac davis wrote:

On Sat, 03 May 2008 21:48:18 GMT, Brian Henderson
wrote:

DGDevin wrote:
I get the impression lots of folks use cordless tools as much because
they figure it's the cool way to go as opposed to it being something
that makes
what they're doing way easier. It makes sense if you're up on a roof or
working someplace with no line power, but how many people are typically
in
that situation? If you really need cordless then it makes sense to pick
a brand where one kind of battery can run ten different tools and then
get a
bunch of batteries and a multi-battery charger. So far I've been able
to
resist that, so far. ;~)

Agreed. I use primarily corded tools because I never use them outside
of my shop and I never use them where I have no power to plug in. The
only exception are my cordless drills and drivers and all of them have
at least 3 batteries and one is always on the charger at all times. I
have never run into a case where I needed a battery and didn't have one
fully charged.

Most people who go cordless crazy are just people trying to look cool,
there's rarely a case where they're really needed.

Yep, me too.. (three?)

I have several cordless tools, but they rarely leave the shop.. maybe used
on the outside of the house or something..
Main reason I went cordless with the drills and stuff was to reduce the
tangle of cords on the bench... The suckers seem to tie themselves in
knots when you use 2 or 3 corded tools during a project..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing
I use 3 cordless drills just about everyday. My Porter Cable 14.4 gets the
most use and it usually lasts the longest. I have a De Walt 12 volt that I
use as a driver sometimes. But the charge last no where near as long as the
PC. I also use a PC 19.2 volt but not as much as the other two, its kinda
heavy. The PC 14.4 is at least 8 years old and I use it everyday and the
only thing I ever replaced were 4 batteries total. But sadly I've heard PC
is going downhill ever since Black and Decker bought them up. Like who
didn't know that would happen??

I never really paid much attention to how long the DeWalt lasts though. It
seems acceptable. Maybe you just have some warn or defective batteries
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"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
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On Sat, 03 May 2008 12:41:25 -0700, DGDevin wrote:

Frank wrote:

Grab the second battery and another six crosscuts was all she got.
Makes a short working day. Even with the lithium iron, the run time may
not be more than three times as much but should be enough when paired
with a fast 15 minute charger. I'll take my corded Super Sawzall next
time.

I get the impression lots of folks use cordless tools as much because
they figure it's the cool way to go as opposed to it being something
that makes what they're doing way easier. It makes sense if you're up
on a roof or working someplace with no line power, but how many people

Depends on the roof I guess. I've been up on a few house roofs and it
doesn't take much to get an extension cord up there.

It's only fairly recently they they make a cordless drill with close to
the same torque as a low end plug in drill. Let alone a nice hole
shooter.

I'll take plugin over cordless any day. My walls always have power (well
almost) batteries self discharge.

Plus adding up the amount of money spent by someone I know on cordless
drills (he had a 10.x volt then a 19.x volt then a....) you could buy a
really great 1/2" chuck Milwaukee plus 2 200 foot long heavy duty (nice
thick gauge) extension cords. I could plug in drag the cord up and still
be done on the roof before you....

On Sat, 03 May 2008 21:48:18 GMT, Brian Henderson

Most people who go cordless crazy are just people trying to look cool,
there's rarely a case where they're really needed.

Count me in as someone "trying to look cool". G

I'll never go back, unless the specific task that requires more run
time than the batteries can deal with. I simply like the lack of a
cord, especially when I'm using three drills at once, breaking down
sheets with my circular saw, trimming trees with my recip saw, or
cutting screwdriver slots in a stripped screw with an angle grinder.




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On May 3, 9:19*pm, mac davis wrote:
On Sat, 03 May 2008 21:48:18 GMT, Brian Henderson



wrote:
DGDevin wrote:
I get the impression lots of folks use cordless tools as much because they
figure it's the cool way to go as opposed to it being something that makes
what they're doing way easier. *It makes sense if you're up on a roof or
working someplace with no line power, but how many people are typically in
that situation? *If you really need cordless then it makes sense to pick a
brand where one kind of battery can run ten different tools and then get a
bunch of batteries and a multi-battery charger. *So far I've been able to
resist that, so far. *;~)

Agreed. *I use primarily corded tools because I never use them outside
of my shop and I never use them where I have no power to plug in. *The
only exception are my cordless drills and drivers and all of them have
at least 3 batteries and one is always on the charger at all times. *I
have never run into a case where I needed a battery and didn't have one
fully charged.

Most people who go cordless crazy are just people trying to look cool,
there's rarely a case where they're really needed.

Yep, me too.. (three?)

I have several cordless tools, but they rarely leave the shop.. maybe used on
the outside of the house or something..
Main reason I went cordless with the drills and stuff was to reduce the tangle
of cords on the bench... The suckers seem to tie themselves in knots when you
use 2 or 3 corded tools during a project..


We use cordless drivers and drills only on job-sites during
installation. It is during that time that 2 or 3 guys would otherwise
get all tangled up, which under certain conditions could lead to
dancing.
For me, my personal favourite all-around power tool is the small
Milwaukee angle drill, and that has a tail...too bad, I have lived
with it for decades and see nothing on the horizon that I will want in
it's place. It is light, has tons of balls and fits my hand perfectly.
I use a small clip which holds the cord at the shoulder of my vest and
the cord runs along my arm...I don't even know I have a cord till some
asshole (usually me) steps on it. After I have exclaimed: "Golly
willikers!!, I must be more careful where I put my feet next
time!!!"..I then continue working as if nothing happened. (My crew
usually cowers in fear after such an outburst.)

On May 3, 4:13 pm, "Leon" wrote:
" Frank" wrote in message

. ..

My problems with cordless tools is the limited run time before the next
charge. Its not a problem with drills as it could run for a long time but
for demanding loads like circular and reciprocation saws (my new DeWalt
cordless NiCad combo) the 5 minute run time paired with a one hour charger
doesn't cut it. For the reciprocating saw, the fully charged battery was
able to crosscut about six 6" dia soft wood before it needed a charge.
Grab the second battery and another six crosscuts was all she got. Makes a
short working day. Even with the lithium iron, the run time may not be
more than three times as much but should be enough when paired with a fast
15 minute charger. I'll take my corded Super Sawzall next time.

I totally agree unless you have a specific need to make a few cuts where
there is no power available.
Other than that the drill, impact driver, and flash light are about the only
tools that I want to be cordless. Now if tool manufacturers would simply
come out with a battery shaped adapter with a tail so that you could use the
saws like a normal saw but still have the ability for the times you need to
cut with out power being available.

Lot of tools out there that swing both ways now. Check out one
example:

http://tinyurl.com/6duqgl

Robert

On May 3, 3:27 pm, " Frank" wrote:
My problems with cordless tools is the limited run time before the next
charge. Its not a problem with drills as it could run for a long time but
for demanding loads like circular and reciprocation saws (my new DeWalt
cordless NiCad combo) the 5 minute run time paired with a one hour charger
doesn't cut it. For the reciprocating saw, the fully charged battery was
able to crosscut about six 6" dia soft wood before it needed a charge. Grab
the second battery and another six crosscuts was all she got. Makes a short
working day. Even with the lithium iron, the run time may not be more than
three times as much but should be enough when paired with a fast 15 minute
charger. I'll take my corded Super Sawzall next time.

I'd say you have either a bad recip saw or bad batteries. We used a
DeWalt cordless recip to trim the rafter and ceiling joist ends when I
built my shop, and we got through the two needs (basically, trimming
the nub off the joist ends, and evening up the ends of the rafters for
gutters that were never installed) on one battery per side. That was
in '95, or '96. Tools today should be better, but maybe not. God
knows, all those I've run across lately aren't, but I'd see about
warranteeing that recip saw--more likely culprit if the batteries work
OK elsewhere.

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
cordless NiCad combo) the 5 minute run time paired with a one hour
charger

warranteeing that recip saw--more likely culprit if the batteries work
OK elsewhere.

Yeah, Charlie's right. 5 minutes is **** poor. You've got some type of
malfunction somewhere.

wrote in message
...
On May 3, 4:13 pm, "Leon" wrote:



Lot of tools out there that swing both ways now. Check out one
example:

AC/DC? LOL I guess it applies to the sicientific tool world and the
different "Lifestyle" world. I did not know that power tools had different
lifestyles also.

On a more serious note, IIRC Hitachi had something like that a few years
back, maybe it was a bigger battery pack hanging on a tool belt.

Thanks for the info. I wonder if Makita offers that in 12.6 volt?


http://tinyurl.com/6duqgl

Robert

wrote

Lot of tools out there that swing both ways now. Check out one
example:

http://tinyurl.com/6duqgl


Just so everyone knows, the above link shows actual tools. Specifically a
woodworking tool.

I was a bit afraid to go there. A tool that swings both ways could have been
a bisexual tool or an industrial grade "marital aid".

I must be overy sensitive to all the spam/porn out there.

"Leon" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On May 3, 4:13 pm, "Leon" wrote:



Lot of tools out there that swing both ways now. Check out one
example:

AC/DC? LOL I guess it applies to the sicientific tool world and the
different "Lifestyle" world. I did not know that power tools had
different lifestyles also.


There ya go. Cordless is a lifestyle!

Just ask the marketing guys at the major tool companies.

On Mon, 5 May 2008 09:01:34 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


I was a bit afraid to go there. A tool that swings both ways could have been
a bisexual tool or an industrial grade "marital aid".

Like the "Anal Intruder" from the movie "Top Secret?

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"bq340" wrote in message
...
Frank wrote:
(my new DeWalt
cordless NiCad combo) the 5 minute run time paired with a one hour
charger doesn't cut it.

How new is it?

NiCads need a few cycles before they give full performance......
MikeB

New, had it for a week now. Cycled about 10 times, no improvement. Nothing
wrong with the batteries, just needed more amp hours. The drill should be
able to run for hours but the circular saw and recip saw is a different
story - not just Dewalt but all other brands are the same.

"Upscale" wrote in message
...

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
cordless NiCad combo) the 5 minute run time paired with a one hour
charger

warranteeing that recip saw--more likely culprit if the batteries work
OK elsewhere.

Yeah, Charlie's right. 5 minutes is **** poor. You've got some type of
malfunction somewhere.



Not malfunction but just the nature of batteries:

http://www.amazon.com/DeWalt-DC9096-...ol_ai_-2_3_tit

I have the 18V standard batteries and the above 2.4 amp hour XRP battery has
40% more amp hour. No rating found for my standard power pack but working
backwards relative to the XRP my batteries should be around 1.71 amp hour.

Let say the recip saw is equal to a 5A, 120V corded saw. That would
translate to 600 watts (5A x 120V) or 33.3A at 18V for the cordless job. So
1.71 amp hours at 33.3A gives 3.08 minutes of run time. ie, (1.71A x 60
minutes)/33.3A = 3.08 minutes so the estimated 5 minutes is reasonable, and
yes its **** poor.

On Mon, 5 May 2008 20:05:33 -0700, " Frank"
wrote:

Let say the recip saw is equal to a 5A, 120V corded saw. That would
translate to 600 watts (5A x 120V) or 33.3A at 18V for the cordless job. So
1.71 amp hours at 33.3A gives 3.08 minutes of run time. ie, (1.71A x 60
minutes)/33.3A = 3.08 minutes so the estimated 5 minutes is reasonable, and
yes its **** poor.

Your math is off. My guess for the reason is that the corded saw is
rated for 5A peak, not continuous operation.

I have the same recip saw. It's no corded tool, but the runtime is
far from 3 (or even 5) minutes. One of these days, I'll time it.

This past weekend, I had to partially disassemble a 12 year old deck
and build a ramp to remove a hot tub.

During the job:
- I removed ~ (36) 3" deck screws with an impact driver
- I cut off (4) 3/8" rusty head lag bolts with an angle grinder
- I made (8-10) cuts in 2x8's and 2x10's with a 6 1/2" circular saw
- I did about 45 seconds of cutting with the same recip saw as the OP
- I then drove (12) 3" and (16) 2" new deck screws with the impact
driver

The next day:
- I removed the new (12) 3" and (16) 2" deck screws
- I reinstalled the (36) old 3" deck screws.

ALL WITH THE SAME XRP 18V BATTERY CHARGE! G

I have a Matsu****a blade on the 6 1/2", and a nice Milwaukee blade on
the recip. Remember, impact drivers are more efficient than drills,
so they get better battery life under these conditions.

I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

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On Tue, 06 May 2008 16:24:23 -0400, B A R R Y wrote:


I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

But, did you have a tool belt and yardstick suspenders?


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

mac davis wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2008 16:24:23 -0400, B A R R Y wrote:


I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

But, did you have a tool belt and yardstick suspenders?

1/2 way! G

I do have a tool belt, complete with driver holster, but no suspenders.

On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:51:16 -0700, mac davis
wrote:

On Tue, 06 May 2008 16:24:23 -0400, B A R R Y wrote:


I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

But, did you have a tool belt and yardstick suspenders?

Tool belt, no suspenders at all.

I do have a NICE drill holster for ladder work.

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"B A R R Y" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 May 2008 20:05:33 -0700, " Frank"
wrote:

Let say the recip saw is equal to a 5A, 120V corded saw. That would
translate to 600 watts (5A x 120V) or 33.3A at 18V for the cordless job.
So
1.71 amp hours at 33.3A gives 3.08 minutes of run time. ie, (1.71A x 60
minutes)/33.3A = 3.08 minutes so the estimated 5 minutes is reasonable,
and
yes its **** poor.

Your math is off. My guess for the reason is that the corded saw is
rated for 5A peak, not continuous operation.


5A is very conservative for a corded saw, typically its 10A or more for a
good saw like Milwaukee Super Sawzall or Porter Cable Tiger saw, both I
have. The ampere rating is continuous at maximum speed and load, not lock
rotor that could be a few time more than the rated current. Think of it this
way, how much run time do you get from one size C battery? Connecting the
batteries in series gives you more voltage, not longer run time. Amazing it
could even run for 5 minutes at maximum load.

Try pruning a life tree branch about 6" to 8" in diameter with the recip saw
and see how many cross cuts you could do with a single charge. I don't think
you could do much more than 9 cross cuts with your XRP battery. Remember
this is wet wood which requires more effort, not the dry 2x8 or 2x10s. FYI,
I was cutting eucalyptus with the Fire Storm (Black & Decker) FS760R 9"
pruning blade.

http://www.firestormtools.com/Produc...aspx?pid=17032




I have the same recip saw. It's no corded tool, but the runtime is
far from 3 (or even 5) minutes. One of these days, I'll time it.

This past weekend, I had to partially disassemble a 12 year old deck
and build a ramp to remove a hot tub.

During the job:
- I removed ~ (36) 3" deck screws with an impact driver
- I cut off (4) 3/8" rusty head lag bolts with an angle grinder
- I made (8-10) cuts in 2x8's and 2x10's with a 6 1/2" circular saw
- I did about 45 seconds of cutting with the same recip saw as the OP
- I then drove (12) 3" and (16) 2" new deck screws with the impact
driver

The next day:
- I removed the new (12) 3" and (16) 2" deck screws
- I reinstalled the (36) old 3" deck screws.

ALL WITH THE SAME XRP 18V BATTERY CHARGE! G

I have a Matsu****a blade on the 6 1/2", and a nice Milwaukee blade on
the recip. Remember, impact drivers are more efficient than drills,
so they get better battery life under these conditions.

I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

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"B A R R Y" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:51:16 -0700, mac davis
wrote:

On Tue, 06 May 2008 16:24:23 -0400, B A R R Y
wrote:


I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

But, did you have a tool belt and yardstick suspenders?

Tool belt, no suspenders at all.

I do have a NICE drill holster for ladder work.


I know holster, but what is this ladder thing you speak of?

--

-Mike-

On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:59:09 -0400, B A R R Y wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:51:16 -0700, mac davis
wrote:

On Tue, 06 May 2008 16:24:23 -0400, B A R R Y wrote:


I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

But, did you have a tool belt and yardstick suspenders?

Tool belt, no suspenders at all.

I do have a NICE drill holster for ladder work.

ok.. I guess a holster is acceptable... for roof work..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Thu, 8 May 2008 00:45:48 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:51:16 -0700, mac davis
wrote:

On Tue, 06 May 2008 16:24:23 -0400, B A R R Y
wrote:


I also looked _really_ cool, too, with no cords and all...

But, did you have a tool belt and yardstick suspenders?

Tool belt, no suspenders at all.

I do have a NICE drill holster for ladder work.


I know holster, but what is this ladder thing you speak of?

like when you put something off? ;~)


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Thu, 8 May 2008 00:45:48 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:


I know holster, but what is this ladder thing you speak of?


A levitating device! G

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On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:03:06 -0700, mac davis
wrote:

I do have a NICE drill holster for ladder work.

ok.. I guess a holster is acceptable... for roof work..

Unless you've have 24+ years of "three points of contact" ladder
training. G

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On Wed, 7 May 2008 19:26:33 -0700, " Frank"
wrote:



Try pruning a life tree branch about 6" to 8" in diameter with the recip saw
and see how many cross cuts you could do with a single charge. I don't think
you could do much more than 9 cross cuts with your XRP battery. Remember
this is wet wood which requires more effort, not the dry 2x8 or 2x10s. FYI,
I was cutting eucalyptus with the Fire Storm (Black & Decker) FS760R 9"
pruning blade.

Will do, as I'm planning to do pruning next week.

I'm not familiar with the Firestorm blades, but I have some AWESOME
pruning blades that are almost as good as my Sandvik folding pack saw.
I've brought the saw with the killer blades to trail maintenance
sessions with top notch results.

I have never seen a "Firestorm" product that impressed me.

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"B A R R Y" wrote:


I have never seen a "Firestorm" product that impressed me.

"Firestorm", isn't that also known as "Junk"?

Lew

On Thu, 08 May 2008 16:00:42 -0400, B A R R Y
wrote:

I'm not familiar with the Firestorm blades, but I have some AWESOME
pruning blades that are almost as good as my Sandvik folding pack saw.
I've brought the saw with the killer blades to trail maintenance
sessions with top notch results.

I forgot to mention the blade! G

http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-48-00-5016-9-Inch-Super-Sawzall/dp/B00008Z9YH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1210277659&sr=8-1

Milwaukee 5016 "Super Sharp" They will easily cut skin if you're not
careful mounting them on the saw. DAMHIKT These blades seem as
sharp as a good Dozuki, to me. The tooth pattern does a great job of
keeping the kerf clear in the green wood, and the body rarely pinches.

I often take the recip saw in my backpack, on mountain bike trail
maintenance trips, as the cord doesn't reach into the woods. G This
blade kicks ass through live trees, dead fall, you name it. The
folding saw I'm comparing it to is very stiff competition:

http://www.amazon.com/Sandvik-Bahco-396-LAP-Laplander-Folding/dp/B0015YNI18/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1210278124&sr=1-1
Years ago, I learned a hard lesson regarding marginal blades on
cordless tools. All cordless tools come with crappy blades! I
actually burned a 9.6v Makita circular saw up, totally destroying it,
while using the stock blade for (1) 96" long cut in 3/4" BB plywood.=

The same saw, ok... the REPLACEMENT of that saw, would make 5-6 of
the same cut using a Matsu****a carbide blade on a single charge.

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Lew Hodgett wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote:


I have never seen a "Firestorm" product that impressed me.

"Firestorm", isn't that also known as "Junk"?

It's named after what happens when the tool meets moderately heavy use.

When I had some major pruning to do, I bought a pack of these genuine
Milwaukee pruning blades at Coastal. They work great.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...uningBlade.jpg

Lee

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On Thu, 8 May 2008 17:54:52 -0400, "Lee Gordon"
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When I had some major pruning to do, I bought a pack of these genuine
Milwaukee pruning blades at Coastal. They work great.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...uningBlade.jpg

Lee

Isn't it fantastic what a good blade does for battery life?

I gotta' get some of THOSE!

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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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"B A R R Y" wrote:


I have never seen a "Firestorm" product that impressed me.

"Firestorm", isn't that also known as "Junk"?

Lew



Yes, I don't buy anything Black& Decker tools but those blades cut better
and last longer than of my bi-metal Milwaukee blades for pruning. The B&D
Workmate is an exception too. I once had a B&D worm drive circular saw that
looks exactly like my Skil HD77 - that was a great saw.

On Fri, 9 May 2008 04:58:21 -0700, " Frank"
wrote:
The B&D
Workmate is an exception too.

I like my Workmate, too.

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