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WingNUTS!
I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project
yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. Puckdropper -- You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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On 23 Mar 2008 03:21:30 GMT, Puckdropper
wrote: I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. Only a $1? How bout these: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=6540 mcmaster.com has decent pricing on hardware if you're buying buy the box. Box of 100 zinc plated 1/4-20 is $8.53 -Leuf |
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"Puckdropper" wrote: I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? Volume. By them by the full box of 100 pcs and watch the price drop. My guess is 1/4-20NC willl be your most popular size. Check out Jamestown Distributors for a box of S/S. Probably last a lifetime. Lew |
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Leuf wrote in
: *snip* mcmaster.com has decent pricing on hardware if you're buying buy the box. Box of 100 zinc plated 1/4-20 is $8.53 -Leuf I don't mind buying by the box if I'm buying common sizes. mcmaster.com shows a 175 piece assortment for $51.11, that's around $.30 a piece. Much better than the sellers around here. I'll have to pick up a box, thanks. Puckdropper -- You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in
: "Puckdropper" wrote: I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? Volume. Perhaps, but as anyone who's paid attention in an Economics class should be able to tell you: at higher prices, people will purchase less. So, to increase volume, lower price. (Hm... V(up) P(down)...kinda starts to sound like natural gas laws.) By them by the full box of 100 pcs and watch the price drop. My guess is 1/4-20NC willl be your most popular size. Check out Jamestown Distributors for a box of S/S. Thanks for the recommendation. Probably last a lifetime. Maybe, but if I can get them cheap enough I'll start replacing things (such as the circular saw adjuster) with wing nuts. Lew Puckdropper -- You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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Perhaps, but as anyone who's paid attention in an Economics class should
be able to tell you: at higher prices, people will purchase less. So, to increase volume, lower price. (Hm... V(up) P(down)...kinda starts to sound like natural gas laws.) When you are buying fasteners by the piece, you are basically paying renewal parts pricing. It may take a couple of years to sell a 100 pieces when you sell them one at a time. The price reflects the cost of shelf space as well as the cost of money for slow moving items. Maybe, but if I can get them cheap enough I'll start replacing things (such as the circular saw adjuster) with wing nuts. SFWIW, I've had a box of 1/4-20 wing nuts for probably 20 years. Still probably have half them left, but the price was right at the time I bought them. Lew |
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"Puckdropper" wrote in message ... I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. Puckdropper -- You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm About once a year or 18 mo. I send an order to MSC, screws, nuts, bolts, all thread, Al and UHMW, polycarbonate sheet. Just about anything I use, or may use. It's on hand and a great deal cheaper. |
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Leuf wrote:
On 23 Mar 2008 03:21:30 GMT, Puckdropper wrote: I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. Only a $1? How bout these: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=6540 mcmaster.com has decent pricing on hardware if you're buying buy the box. Box of 100 zinc plated 1/4-20 is $8.53 Fastenal has 'em for 8 cents a piece stamped, or .19 a piece forged. They list a box of 50 forged 1/4-20 for 9.64 as an "in store item". If there's a Lowes near you odds are that there's a Fastenal within a reasonable drive. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On 23 Mar 2008 03:21:30 GMT, Puckdropper
wrote: I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. Puckdropper I wonder why I pay 25 cents for a washer when I can drill a hole in a penny, dime or nickel. LOL |
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Puckdropper wrote:
I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. Puckdropper Good Grief! I am so glad that I have suppliers other than the big box stores. I get wing nuts for about 17 cents each. I get a 10% discount without even asking for it and they have way more selection than either of the Borgs. http://www.fastenergroupsouth.com/Americanbolt04.htm -- Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc. Georgetown, TX |
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In article , Puckdropper wrote:
I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. *Weld* one, maybe... solder isn't going to hold up to much torque. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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On 23 Mar, 03:21, Puckdropper wrote:
I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? Machining wingnuts really is a _lot_ more difficult. Feeding the things automatically is a total PITA ....but mostly it's volume. |
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Phisherman wrote in
: On 23 Mar 2008 03:21:30 GMT, Puckdropper wrote: I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. Puckdropper I wonder why I pay 25 cents for a washer when I can drill a hole in a penny, dime or nickel. LOL Ever tried it? It's not always easy to drill a hole in a small flat round disc. (If you're doing lots of electrical with metal boxes, you'll have plenty of punch outs to play with...) Puckdropper -- You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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WingNUTS!
"J. Clarke" wrote in news:fs5bfc021a8
@news3.newsguy.com: Fastenal has 'em for 8 cents a piece stamped, or .19 a piece forged. They list a box of 50 forged 1/4-20 for 9.64 as an "in store item". If there's a Lowes near you odds are that there's a Fastenal within a reasonable drive. I'll give Fastenal a look next time I need a wing nut. Puckdropper -- You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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http://www.reidsupply.com/index.aspx
Lowes is great for weekend searching but their hardware is neither cheap nor good. I'm there about every damn weekend. Check out Reid's for all that funky stuff. Puckdropper wrote: I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. Puckdropper |
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Puckdropper wrote: Phisherman wrote in : On 23 Mar 2008 03:21:30 GMT, Puckdropper wrote: ...snipped... I wonder why I pay 25 cents for a washer when I can drill a hole in a penny, dime or nickel. LOL Ever tried it? It's not always easy to drill a hole in a small flat round disc. (If you're doing lots of electrical with metal boxes, you'll have plenty of punch outs to play with...) That's when you need one of these: http://vansantent.com/Hand_punch_7A.htm BTW, Roper Whitney group includes Pexto, formerly Peck, Stowe, & Wilcox, used to make brace & bits and other woodworking tools! -- Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one. Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org |
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It's likely due to material -- Ottawa Fastners sells two different
kind of wingnuts (both 8-32) -- one that sells for $0.82 a piece, and one that sells for $0.14 a piece -- one is solid stainless steel and the other is the coated stuff. Likely what you're looking at is the stainless steel kind, which is going to make it a lot more expensive. Take a look around Lowes -- they might have the cheap kind too. John |
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Puckdropper wrote:
I at Lowes looking for hardware for my latest woodworking project yesterday. It seems I can get hex nuts for $0.08 ea, but wing nuts cost almost $1 ea! I don't understand it, what makes the wing nut so special that they'd cost so much? The design is years old, and there's only about twice the metal in a wing nut. That's a huge upcharge just for conveinence. I could solder a washer on the top of the nut and get the same function for around $0.25. Puckdropper Just grab a few from rec.woodworking... Lots of left wing nuts AND right wing nuts on here! |
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