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Sharpening guides or systems for carving tools?
I'm looking for reviews or recommendations on sharpening guides.
I currently have about 20 Dockyard micro carving tools ranging from 1.5mm to 3mm in many different shapes. The manufacturer recommends a 20° angle. These tools are SOOOOOOOOO tiny that I cannot afford to muck them up by being inaccurate. Just a few wrong swipes will completely wipe a blade out. I love them, they hold an edge nicely and though I have run them on my leather strop a little I would like to be able to keep them as nice as when they arrived. Dockyard recommended their own sharpening jig BUT I am unable to locate it online, even at Woodcraft... which is where the tools came from. Short of finding a phone number I don't know what else to do. Eventually (hopefully sooner than later) I plan on getting more carving tools in larger sizes. Some good quality tools. I've been using some Chinky China stuff and they were great for getting my feet wet but now I'm ready to make an investment. Will you guys and gals give me the benefit of your experience, please? Here are a couple of things I am considering. http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5366 http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...roductid=03B30 However, the shafts on the micro tools are round. Alignment may be an issue. and this is the only thing I can come up with for my tools that are not flat http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4364 Any suggestions? Thanks in advance -- Kate ______ /l ,[____], l-L -OlllllllO- ()_)-()_)--)_) The shortest distance between two points, is a lot more fun in a Jeep! Wash behind your ears before you reply :¬) |
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Notoce that the SlipStrop POLISHES. I bought one
thinking it was a molded synthetic fine stone. It ain't. It's wood - and a soft wood at that. The Precision Sharpening System does flat bevels, which is half of what's needed for flat, single bevel, chisels and carving tools - you still need a flat and polished back. This one won't do curved bevels and can't get into the inside. The Veritas sharpening guide is the older of the two Veritas sharpening guides - and the more difficult to set up. Made for flat tools though you could probably use a triangular file to make a groove in it to hold round things. The groove would have to be sqaure to the ends or you'll get a skewed bevel. Doesn't do the inside of curved or V carving tools though. I suspect that what you'll end up with is some japanese water stone "slips? - or synthetic stone versions. charlieb |
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Kate wrote:
I'm looking for reviews or recommendations on sharpening guides. I currently have about 20 Dockyard micro carving tools ranging from 1.5mm to 3mm in many different shapes. The manufacturer recommends a 20° angle. These tools are SOOOOOOOOO tiny that I cannot afford to muck them up by being inaccurate. Just a few wrong swipes will completely wipe a blade out. I love them, they hold an edge nicely and though I have run them on my leather strop a little I would like to be able to keep them as nice as when they arrived. Dockyard recommended their own sharpening jig BUT I am unable to locate it online, even at Woodcraft... which is where the tools came from. Short of finding a phone number I don't know what else to do. Eventually (hopefully sooner than later) I plan on getting more carving tools in larger sizes. Some good quality tools. I've been using some Chinky China stuff and they were great for getting my feet wet but now I'm ready to make an investment. Will you guys and gals give me the benefit of your experience, please? Here are a couple of things I am considering. http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5366 http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...roductid=03B30 However, the shafts on the micro tools are round. Alignment may be an issue. and this is the only thing I can come up with for my tools that are not flat http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4364 Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Kate, There are as many ways to sharpen carving tools, as there are woodcarvers: each has there on method. To sharpen my small carving tools I use a sharpening stone when the cutting edge becomes rounded from stropping, damaged, or needs to be reshaped, followed by honing. I use the Flexcut Slipstrop with Tormek honing compound. The following web sites will provide more info on sharpening Mac Proffit’s method: http://www.woodcarvers.com/sharpening.htm Lora Irish's web site: http://www.carvingpatterns.com/sharpening-2.htm The Carvers’ Companion web site: http://carverscompanion.com/NewCarverFiles.html Neil Kate, There are as many ways to sharpen carving tools, as there are woodcarvers: each has there on method. To sharpen my small carving tools I use a sharpening stone when the cutting edge becomes rounded from stropping, damaged, or needs to be reshaped, followed by honing. I use the Flexcut Slipstrop with Tormek honing compound. The following web sites will provide more info on sharpening Mac Proffit’s method: http://www.woodcarvers.com/sharpening.htm Lora Irish's web site: http://www.carvingpatterns.com/sharpening-2.htm The Carvers’ Companion web site: http://carverscompanion.com/NewCarverFiles.html Neil http://www.tristatecarvers.com/ |
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"Rita and Neil Ward" wrote in message ... Kate wrote: I'm looking for reviews or recommendations on sharpening guides. I currently have about 20 Dockyard micro carving tools ranging from 1.5mm to 3mm in many different shapes. The manufacturer recommends a 20° angle. SNIP There are as many ways to sharpen carving tools, as there are woodcarvers: each has there on method. Their own method indeed. With the use of the tool as its own jig is the one most employ. Means nothing coarser than a Wa****a or fine India is ever used, because coarser takes longer to get the gross marks out by hand than just honing fine to begin with. Fortunately carving is not done by placing the tool in a jig at a fixed position like a plane or shave. Means there's a _LOT_ of leeway in angles and bevels. Isn't the numbers that make an edge sharp or a carver competent, either. Makes the pursuit of the right number a waste of time and money in my opinion. But if you must have it, make your basswood ramps at the proper angles and slide them and the tool on your oiled stone. Or straddle the stone with the ramp if you're using water. |
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Kate,
I also recently started using the dockyard micro tools and did a similar search to buy or at least get some info on the dockyard sharpening jig. No luck, no email address, no phone number. I do have their street address (printed on their product labels) and I typed up a short letter to them requesting info. The letter is still in my computer. If I eventually mail it and get info I will let you know here. If you get any where, please do the same. Larry On Jan 9, 10:15 pm, "Kate" wrote: I'm looking for reviews or recommendations on sharpening guides. I currently have about 20 Dockyard micro carving tools ranging from 1.5mm to 3mm in many different shapes. The manufacturer recommends a 20° angle. These tools are SOOOOOOOOO tiny that I cannot afford to muck them up by being inaccurate. Just a few wrong swipes will completely wipe a blade out.. I love them, they hold an edge nicely and though I have run them on my leather strop a little I would like to be able to keep them as nice as when they arrived. Dockyard recommended their own sharpening jig BUT I am unable to locate it online, even at Woodcraft... which is where the tools came from. Short of finding a phone number I don't know what else to do. Eventually (hopefully sooner than later) I plan on getting more carving tools in larger sizes. Some good quality tools. I've been using some Chinky China stuff and they were great for getting my feet wet but now I'm ready to make an investment. Will you guys and gals give me the benefit of your experience, please? Here are a couple of things I am considering. http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...roductid=03B30 However, the shafts on the micro tools are round. Alignment may be an issue. and this is the only thing I can come up with for my tools that are not flathttp://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4364 Any suggestions? Thanks in advance -- Kate ______ /l ,[____], l-L -OlllllllO- ()_)-()_)--)_) The shortest distance between two points, is a lot more fun in a Jeep! Wash behind your ears before you reply :¬) |
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Hi Charlie!
How ya doin? Thanks for the input. Believe it or not, I read enough about the slip strop that I knew it was - just a strop. BUT, I'm hoping it will be of use with the polishing of those little curved edges. I use a flat one now but it doesn't do anything for the other shapes. So... what do I use for thos wee little inside edges and the round and V groove ? K. "charlieb" wrote in message ... Notoce that the SlipStrop POLISHES. I bought one thinking it was a molded synthetic fine stone. It ain't. It's wood - and a soft wood at that. The Precision Sharpening System does flat bevels, which is half of what's needed for flat, single bevel, chisels and carving tools - you still need a flat and polished back. This one won't do curved bevels and can't get into the inside. The Veritas sharpening guide is the older of the two Veritas sharpening guides - and the more difficult to set up. Made for flat tools though you could probably use a triangular file to make a groove in it to hold round things. The groove would have to be sqaure to the ends or you'll get a skewed bevel. Doesn't do the inside of curved or V carving tools though. I suspect that what you'll end up with is some japanese water stone "slips? - or synthetic stone versions. charlieb |
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wrote in message ... Kate, I also recently started using the dockyard micro tools and did a similar search to buy or at least get some info on the dockyard sharpening jig. No luck, no email address, no phone number. I do have their street address (printed on their product labels) and I typed up a short letter to them requesting info. The letter is still in my computer. If I eventually mail it and get info I will let you know here. If you get any where, please do the same. Larry Thanks Larry... I sure will! How do you like them? I just love mine, they are SO little and precise. What are you carving? Kate |
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"Rita and Neil Ward" wrote There are as many ways to sharpen carving tools, as there are woodcarvers: each has there own method. To sharpen my small carving tools I use a sharpening stone when the cutting edge becomes rounded from stropping, damaged, or needs to be reshaped, followed by honing. I use the Flexcut Slipstrop with Tormek honing compound. |I have a little bitty white Arkansas stone that I have been using. Trouble is the angled and rounded edges. I'm doing ok with the straight edges I just hate the thought of messing the different shaped ones up. Thanks for the links, I'll go do some more homework. I'm planning on getting a couple of the Chris Pye books, the tools and sharpening book is on my list Kate The following web sites will provide more info on sharpening Mac Proffit’s method: http://www.woodcarvers.com/sharpening.htm Lora Irish's web site: http://www.carvingpatterns.com/sharpening-2.htm The Carvers’ Companion web site: http://carverscompanion.com/NewCarverFiles.html Neil Kate, There are as many ways to sharpen carving tools, as there are woodcarvers: each has there on method. To sharpen my small carving tools I use a sharpening stone when the cutting edge becomes rounded from stropping, damaged, or needs to be reshaped, followed by honing. I use the Flexcut Slipstrop with Tormek honing compound. The following web sites will provide more info on sharpening Mac Proffit’s method: http://www.woodcarvers.com/sharpening.htm Lora Irish's web site: http://www.carvingpatterns.com/sharpening-2.htm The Carvers’ Companion web site: http://carverscompanion.com/NewCarverFiles.html Neil http://www.tristatecarvers.com/ |
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"George" wrote SNIP There are as many ways to sharpen carving tools, as there are woodcarvers: each has there on method. Their own method indeed. With the use of the tool as its own jig is the one most employ. ***Ok, this is pretty much what I've been doing. However it seems that my tools are sharp, just not as sharp as I would like them to be. Means nothing coarser than a Wa****a or fine India is ever used, because coarser takes longer to get the gross marks out by hand than just honing fine to begin with. *** I RARELY take one to a stone. The stone I have is a very fine white arkansas oil stone. I'm just afraid I'll round the edges orget the angles all buggered up. Fortunately carving is not done by placing the tool in a jig at a fixed position like a plane or shave. Means there's a _LOT_ of leeway in angles and bevels. Isn't the numbers that make an edge sharp or a carver competent, either. Makes the pursuit of the right number a waste of time and money in my opinion. *** ok, that kind of eases the stress out of it. In most cases I wouldn't care but these micro tools have such a micro margin for error I'm hoping to keep them good for as long as I can. But if you must have it, make your basswood ramps at the proper angles and slide them and the tool on your oiled stone. Or straddle the stone with the ramp if you're using water. *** Thanks! I never thought of making a wooden ramp! Kate |
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"Kate" wrote *** Scarey Sharp? That should be scary sharp. It is a method of sharpening that uses a progessive series of different grits of sandpaper on a very flat surface, usually glass. It is a common enough, I am sure therre is lots of info around on it, either on the web or in the wreck archives. |
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Kate,
While not a system, this book might help? Butz "Sharpening carving tools" Here's the URL to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/How-Sharpen-Ca...82034&sr= 8-2 MJ Wallace |
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|I have a little bitty white Arkansas stone that I have been using. Trouble is the angled and rounded edges. I'm doing ok with the straight edges I just hate the thought of messing the different shaped ones up. Thanks for the links, I'll go do some more homework. I'm planning on getting a couple of the Chris Pye books, the tools and sharpening book is on my list Kate The Slipstrop and the gold honing compound should keep your angled and rounded edges sharp. Just as effective is to use your v and gouge tools to cut grooves in softwood creating a strop to hone the bevel of the matching v tool or gouge. Use a leather shoestring with honing compound to hone the inside bevel of your micro tools. Another book to consider on sharpening is “The Complete Guide to Sharpening” by Leonard Lee. Neil |
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"Rita and Neil Ward" wrote in message ... Kate wrote: |I have a little bitty white Arkansas stone that I have been using. Trouble is the angled and rounded edges. I'm doing ok with the straight edges I just hate the thought of messing the different shaped ones up. Thanks for the links, I'll go do some more homework. I'm planning on getting a couple of the Chris Pye books, the tools and sharpening book is on my list Kate The Slipstrop and the gold honing compound should keep your angled and rounded edges sharp. Just as effective is to use your v and gouge tools to cut grooves in softwood creating a strop to hone the bevel of the matching v tool or gouge. Use a leather shoestring with honing compound to hone the inside bevel of your micro tools. ** Oh HEY! That's a good idea! Thanks Another book to consider on sharpening is “The Complete Guide to Sharpening” by Leonard Lee. Neil |
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Believe it or not...
that's one of the books in my cart on Amazon Thanks! wrote in message ... Kate, While not a system, this book might help? Butz "Sharpening carving tools" Here's the URL to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/How-Sharpen-Ca...82034&sr= 8-2 MJ Wallace |
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snip Thanks for the advice and the giggle.
Oh, put the forge up behind the shop. What the heck, you can shoe horses on the side. Some of the pros sharpen with belt sanders. Forge behind the shop? Not lately. And I take it you have never shoed a horse. I have helped, and it is NOT something I care repeat. So yuo don't know what Scarey Sharp is? Well for the above, I'm not gonna tell you. Hehehehe But I'm sure someone else will. If you'd made a proper sacrifice or two for the Woodworking Gods I woulda told you. Heathen. JOAT 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker I quite agree. |
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Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 10:56am
(Lee*Michaels) doth sayeth: That should be scary sharp. It is a method of sharpening that uses a progessive series of different grits of sandpaper on a very flat surface, usually glass. It is a common enough, I am sure therre is lots of info around on it, either on the web or in the wreck archives. If you're gonna get picky about the spelling, I'm gonna get picky about the capitalization - it is Scary Sharp. Actually Scary Sharp (TM). While you were at it you should have given the URL too, so she could have accurate info. http://www.shavings.net/SCARY.HTM JOAT 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker I quite agree. |
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:15:31 -0600, "Kate"
wrote: I'm looking for reviews or recommendations on sharpening guides. I currently have about 20 Dockyard micro carving tools ranging from 1.5mm to 3mm in many different shapes. snip Thanks in advance At the risk of being repetative, I've re-posted a response to a query in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking below: I have a set of six of the Dockyard micro tools and use some of them quite often. I initially sharpened them on a fine oil stone. It's just a matter of being careful to maintain the proper angle (15-20 degrees). I have an advantage of being near-sighted, so I can look very closely at the edge while I'm sharpening : ). Then stropping on a leather strop occasionally. Over the years, I have managed to drop and break most of my stones, so I've replaced them with a diamond hone, and I love it for setting the initial edge. Now I have a home made rig for maintaining the edge of my tools. It consists of a piece of oak about 14 inches long and 2 inches wide, with a handle carved on one end. I rounded one end for stropping the inside of larger gouges and stretched an old leather belt around it while wet (inside of small goughes anf v tools can be run alonf the edge of the belt). When the leather dried, it shrank and tightened up. On the other side, I glued a piece of plexiglass on the stick to which is spray glued a piece of 400 grit wet and dry sandpaper. This works very well for touching up the edges of small tools. The best stropping compound that I have found is the Flexcut Gold compound. It's not necessary to maintain an exact 20 degree edge, just a flat one. The Dockyard tools hold a pretty good edge and I prefer an angle a little flatter than 20 degrees. As mentioned above, between 15 and 20 degrees is fine. See: Kate Sharpening post in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking for: I've attached a couple of pictures to help explain this - you can see that the sandpaper is getting pretty chewed up and will be replaced soon. I've also attached a picture of some of my carving tools and accessories. As you can see, a tackle box makes a great tool holder. Some of the things that come in handy are small files, dental picks and a toothbrush for cleaning away small chips. Bill |
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"J T" wrote in message ... snip Thanks for the advice and the giggle. Oh, put the forge up behind the shop. What the heck, you can shoe horses on the side. Some of the pros sharpen with belt sanders. ** if I used a belt sander on these little guys, they would be gone in the blink of an eye. and you KNOW I'm about as far from being a pro as the get ;¬) Forge behind the shop? Not lately. And I take it you have never shoed a horse. **shod... nop, have never shod a horse. Grew up withhorses under my arse, held the twitch while my mom put shoes on them but never did it mysel. Never wanted to either. I have helped, and it is NOT something I care repeat. So yuo don't know what Scarey Sharp is? Well for the above, I'm not gonna tell you. Hehehehe But I'm sure someone else will. If you'd made a proper sacrifice or two for the Woodworking Gods I woulda told you. Heathen. **But you DID you DID, in the other post. Funny as hell too. I read a little of it. Will sit and read it all when I get some time this evening. Thanks JT And, the appropriate sacrifice would be_______ ? Kate |
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Hi Bill,
Thank you for reposting. I have been having problems with my newsgroups lately and though I tried to reply to the first post you left with the photos I don't think it made it. I posted a photo of the strop I made a couple of months ago. I sharpen on one side and then run the blade over the side with no medium on the other side for a few swipes. Seemed like the thing to do. For a polishing medium I am using a white buffing compound. I'm thinking I might need to make another strop for rouge... what jewelers call white diamond. It's a coarser polish than rouge...whatta ya think? I'm not near sighted but I DO have a magnifying light on my bench. I'm thinking of trying to make a wooded guide (as suggested above) just to keep myself from rounding the edges. Kate "Bill" wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:15:31 -0600, "Kate" wrote: I'm looking for reviews or recommendations on sharpening guides. I currently have about 20 Dockyard micro carving tools ranging from 1.5mm to 3mm in many different shapes. snip Thanks in advance At the risk of being repetative, I've re-posted a response to a query in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking below: I have a set of six of the Dockyard micro tools and use some of them quite often. I initially sharpened them on a fine oil stone. It's just a matter of being careful to maintain the proper angle (15-20 degrees). I have an advantage of being near-sighted, so I can look very closely at the edge while I'm sharpening : ). Then stropping on a leather strop occasionally. Over the years, I have managed to drop and break most of my stones, so I've replaced them with a diamond hone, and I love it for setting the initial edge. Now I have a home made rig for maintaining the edge of my tools. It consists of a piece of oak about 14 inches long and 2 inches wide, with a handle carved on one end. I rounded one end for stropping the inside of larger gouges and stretched an old leather belt around it while wet (inside of small goughes anf v tools can be run alonf the edge of the belt). When the leather dried, it shrank and tightened up. On the other side, I glued a piece of plexiglass on the stick to which is spray glued a piece of 400 grit wet and dry sandpaper. This works very well for touching up the edges of small tools. The best stropping compound that I have found is the Flexcut Gold compound. It's not necessary to maintain an exact 20 degree edge, just a flat one. The Dockyard tools hold a pretty good edge and I prefer an angle a little flatter than 20 degrees. As mentioned above, between 15 and 20 degrees is fine. See: Kate Sharpening post in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking for: I've attached a couple of pictures to help explain this - you can see that the sandpaper is getting pretty chewed up and will be replaced soon. I've also attached a picture of some of my carving tools and accessories. As you can see, a tackle box makes a great tool holder. Some of the things that come in handy are small files, dental picks and a toothbrush for cleaning away small chips. Bill |
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Kate wrote:
"J T" wrote in message ... snip Thanks for the advice and the giggle. Oh, put the forge up behind the shop. What the heck, you can shoe horses on the side. Some of the pros sharpen with belt sanders. ** if I used a belt sander on these little guys, they would be gone in the blink of an eye. and you KNOW I'm about as far from being a pro as the get ;¬) Forge behind the shop? Not lately. And I take it you have never shoed a horse. **shod... nop, have never shod a horse. Grew up withhorses under my arse, held the twitch while my mom put shoes on them but never did it mysel. Never wanted to either. I have helped, and it is NOT something I care repeat. So yuo don't know what Scarey Sharp is? Well for the above, I'm not gonna tell you. Hehehehe But I'm sure someone else will. If you'd made a proper sacrifice or two for the Woodworking Gods I woulda told you. Heathen. **But you DID you DID, in the other post. Funny as hell too. I read a little of it. Will sit and read it all when I get some time this evening. Thanks JT And, the appropriate sacrifice would be_______ ? Kate Oh geez, Kate. NEVER ask. It's either your first born or a case of yellow paint in aerosol cans. Sometimes both. -- Tanus This is not really a sig. http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/ |
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"Tanus" wrote And, the appropriate sacrifice would be_______ ? **snip!** Kate Oh geez, Kate. NEVER ask. It's either your first born or a case of yellow paint in aerosol cans. Sometimes both. -- Tanus HEH... If I sent my first born, I could collect a good $um to take her back *WEG* Kate |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:50:20 -0600, "Kate"
wrote: Hi Bill, Thank you for reposting. I have been having problems with my newsgroups lately and though I tried to reply to the first post you left with the photos I don't think it made it. I posted a photo of the strop I made a couple of months ago. I sharpen on one side and then run the blade over the side with no medium on the other side for a few swipes. Seemed like the thing to do. For a polishing medium I am using a white buffing compound. I'm thinking I might need to make another strop for rouge... what jewelers call white diamond. It's a coarser polish than rouge...whatta ya think? I'm not near sighted but I DO have a magnifying light on my bench. I'm thinking of trying to make a wooded guide (as suggested above) just to keep myself from rounding the edges. Kate An angled piece of wood might not be a bad idea, but if your tools are like mine, the edge angle is not perfectly consistant all along the edge, and doesn't need to be. As long as it's somewhere in the 15-20 degree range you should be good to go. Also, a LITTLE rounding is not going to kill you. Bill |
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Bill wrote in
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Sharpening guides or systems for carving tools?
On Jan 9, 10:15 pm, "Kate" wrote:
I'm looking for reviews or recommendations on sharpening guides. I currently have about 20 Dockyard micro carving tools ranging from 1.5mm to 3mm in many different shapes. The manufacturer recommends a 20° angle. These tools are SOOOOOOOOO tiny that I cannot afford to muck them up by being inaccurate. Just a few wrong swipes will completely wipe a blade out.. I love them, they hold an edge nicely and though I have run them on my leather strop a little I would like to be able to keep them as nice as when they arrived. It's hard to estimate 20 degrees, but easy to estimate level. Clamp the chisel in a padded vise at 20 degrees and hone with a stone or slip held flat. |
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Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 7:41pm (EST-1)
(Kate) doth sayeth: It might be a geographic thing.snip Hmm.... I'll have to have a look on that sacrifice. The biggest piece of wood I have around is 3" x 32" maple flooring.... Now, the slightly used virgins, both are smokers, neither of them fish and one is a terrible housekeeper but MAN OH MAN is she a good looker! http://stonefoxmodeling.com/Stone%20...deling%201.htm Nah, you must have gotten one of those new dictionaries, you know, like new math where 1+1= about 2. Hey, the maple would work, the Woodworking Gods aren't greedy. Neither of the slightly used virgins would be acceptable by any means, they smoke. Nasty, nasty, nasty. Hey, had to go to Raleigh today, to see the doctor that diagnosed me as having sleep apnia. Got the results of my last sleep study, turns out I do not have sleep apnia. LMAO That's what I've been saying all along. Anyway, stopped at my favorite used bookstore on the way back, and they had a number of books on carving instructions, and some on hand sharpening tools. You might not want to stop by there, but you could check some used bookstores in your area. Me, I'm gonna try to remember to stop by the glass place tomorrow and see if they've got one or two pieces of plate glass about 12"X12" or so, one for Scary Sharp (TM) and one for a light box. Or, I'll just use my belt sander. LOL JOAT 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker I don't have a problem with a woman president - just not Hillary. |
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Hey!
I have some pieces of tempered glass about that size! Want me to send you one? Seriously! Kate "J T" wrote in message ... Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 7:41pm (EST-1) (Kate) doth sayeth: It might be a geographic thing.snip Hmm.... I'll have to have a look on that sacrifice. The biggest piece of wood I have around is 3" x 32" maple flooring.... Now, the slightly used virgins, both are smokers, neither of them fish and one is a terrible housekeeper but MAN OH MAN is she a good looker! http://stonefoxmodeling.com/Stone%20...deling%201.htm Nah, you must have gotten one of those new dictionaries, you know, like new math where 1+1= about 2. Hey, the maple would work, the Woodworking Gods aren't greedy. Neither of the slightly used virgins would be acceptable by any means, they smoke. Nasty, nasty, nasty. Hey, had to go to Raleigh today, to see the doctor that diagnosed me as having sleep apnia. Got the results of my last sleep study, turns out I do not have sleep apnia. LMAO That's what I've been saying all along. Anyway, stopped at my favorite used bookstore on the way back, and they had a number of books on carving instructions, and some on hand sharpening tools. You might not want to stop by there, but you could check some used bookstores in your area. Me, I'm gonna try to remember to stop by the glass place tomorrow and see if they've got one or two pieces of plate glass about 12"X12" or so, one for Scary Sharp (TM) and one for a light box. Or, I'll just use my belt sander. LOL JOAT 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker I don't have a problem with a woman president - just not Hillary. |
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"Bill" wrote An angled piece of wood might not be a bad idea, but if your tools are like mine, the edge angle is not perfectly consistant all along the edge, and doesn't need to be. As long as it's somewhere in the 15-20 degree range you should be good to go. Also, a LITTLE rounding is not going to kill you. Bill Thanks again Bill K. |
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"J T" wrote BELT SANDER Kate. ------ *** !! POKE !! *** Now, you cut that out! ;¬Þ K. |
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"Father Haskell" wrote It's hard to estimate 20 degrees, but easy to estimate level. Clamp the chisel in a padded vise at 20 degrees and hone with a stone or slip held flat. -- That's a good idea! Thanks! K. |
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Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 10:13pm (EST-1)
(Kate) doth sayeth: Hey! I have some pieces of tempered glass about that size! Want me to send you one? Seriously! Hmm, I'll definitely consider t he offer. As long as you know the Woodworking Gods probably won't certifiy it as a sacrifice, not wood you know. I want to try the local glass place. I'll get back to you. We really could use a fishing buddy tho. Now, if you were parinoid about using a sharpening, and we all know you're not paranoid. Uh, you did take your pill today, right? LOL You might well have run across this already. But on the off chance you either didn't, or already forgot, this would probably work pretty well. Of course, you' might well wind up with a separate one, with varying angles, for each chisel.. http://www.seadercraft.com/model_woodwork.html Me, I don't think I'd ever bother with a guide - like I said, each cut would be at a slightly different angle, so beeing off by just a shade wouldn't man a thing, and being dead on with the chisel angle would just be un-needed. That's my theory anyway. If you don't like the belt sander idea for some strange reason, I'd probably opt for a very hard wheel on a grinder, possibly slow, probably not. Delicate touches would probably do. I think for class tho, Scary Sharp (TM) is the way to go. Astound and astonish friends and neighbors with your hand sharpening skills. People will probably come from yards away to view your skills. They don't come to watch me and my belt sander, but on the other hand, that's the way I prefer it. Remind me sometime to tell you about the day the Jehovah's Wtnesses came when I was sawing in my shop. LMAO JOAT 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker I don't have a problem with a woman president - just not Hillary. |
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