If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
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If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Table saw, jointer, and band saw would be at the top of my list for stationary
equipment. Add a "portable" planer (as portable as anything weighing 80-100
pounds can be), a router table, and a compound miter saw, and you're in pretty
good shape.

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on 15/11/2007, Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman supposed :
If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
===

Table saw, band saw, drill press.

Mekon

"Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman" wrote in
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If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
===


Table saw, Drill Press, Router (Look for a hand held that you can also
use in a table)

Circular saw as a "powered hand tool."

These tools should take care of 90% of what you'd ever want to do with a
wood working project. Other tools will make it cleaner, easier, faster,
etc, but these will handle the bulk of your projects.

Do I have to even mention the cordless drill/driver?

Puckdropper
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"Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman" wrote:

If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to
have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)?

1) Table Saw
2) Bench Top Planer
3) Bench Top Jointer (An old one with a belt drive)
4) 4x8 Table to serve as a runout table for the saw, and/or table for
planer and jointer.

Lew

"Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman" wrote in message
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If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
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1st choice I used this combo for years and it worked well for me.
Radial Arm Saw Can to most of what a TS can do with a little training
and takes up less room.
Band saw
Drill Press

2nd choice
Shop Smith
Planner
other tool to be determined by what type of work would be done, for me a
band saw

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If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
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Table Saw Router, Planer

Ray,
I have to cite four tools that I feel are necessary - for me - three
just won't cut it (sorry about the pun)

Table saw
Jointer
Planer
Band saw.

A hand held plunge router with a good fence/guide system would be a
needed item and if posible a means to mount your router in the side
table of the table saw would be a great plus.
As has been pointed out elsewhere in this group, you could egde joint
on the router which could minimize the need for a jointer but I could
not get away with that for the stuff that I try to make.

Marc

Table saw (of course)
band saw
jointer

You can mount a router in one wing of the table saw and not have to
take up space with a router table.

Dick Durbin
Tallahassee

Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman wrote:
If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to
have (not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to
work on my small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I
really need. Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

1. Table saw, no doubt.

2. Drum sander (Performax). Not many would agree with me but it has
done more for my ability to "make stuff" than anything else after a
saw. I can dress raw lumber and thickness plane with it. A thickness
planer would do it faster but no better and probably not as well. It
is just wonderful to be able to easily get all parts of something the
same thickness AND well sanded. For all practical purposes, it also
surface joins...and up to 32" to boot

3. A harder choice and up for grabs...
(a) drill press - handy but I spent decades without one
(b) joiner - also handy, used to do it quite satisfactorily on a
router table
(c) lathe - lots of fun and a real time saver when you need round
stuff
(d) combo disc/belt sander - useful but one can do without
(e) scroll saw - unless you are into intricate things, not real
handy
(f) band saw - I think I'd opt for this as #3. I use mine quite a
bit mostly for resawing. In fact, if I had space & $$, I'd have TWO
of them...one for resawing, another set up with a narrow, fine blade
as they are a real PITA to change blades.


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On Nov 14, 11:22 pm, "Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman"
wrote:
If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
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By far the most useful thing is a good bench -- hard to do anything
if you don't have a good flat spot on which to work. With a good
bench you can do lots of one-off things with hand tools about as fast
setting up a machine. Without a good bench, layout, dry fit and
glue up is much harder and more frustrating.

Everything else is an efficiency device. Since there is a three
device limit and it's a garshop, I'm guessing the limitation is really
on space and thigns have to be stowed when not in use. If so I'd put
efficiency per sq ft high for a smaller full-size band saw, and a
table saw (using the bench as outfeed table). I'd go with a dust
collector on wheels for the the third. Other stationary machines may
vary a lot in space efficiency depending on what you build.

hex
-30-

Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman wrote:
If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to
have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on
my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

What kind of work do you want to do? If you're primarily a turner
then the answer is going to be different from if you're primarily a
box maker or a furniture maker or whatever.

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman wrote:
If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Table saw, band saw, drill press
then next 3
6x48 belt sander/disk sander combo, lathe, dust collector
then next 3
jig saw, jointer, planer or large belt/drum sander.

I have all these in my home shop except the planer and drum sander and
tried to list them in the order I would miss the most, or most used. I
really haven't missed the planer at all but would love to have a 24 or
36 inch belt/drum sander... I probably would buy a shaper before a
planer, but you can get by with a router. I have a shaper which is is a
lot better than a router table but more expensive as well.

Whatever you get, make sure it is high quality stuff. Cheap tools
always suck. If you can't afford good new stuff, find good old stuff,
or do without until you can buy quality.

--
Jack
http://jbstein.com

"Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman" wrote in message
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If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
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MiniMax or Felder combo machine, bandsaw, drill press

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MiniMax or Felder combo machine, bandsaw, drill press


Hey Frank, that is almost cheating. LOL Great suggestion, you get more
machines for a single choice.

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"Frank Drackman" wrote in message
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MiniMax or Felder combo machine, bandsaw, drill press


Hey Frank, that is almost cheating. LOL Great suggestion, you get more
machines for a single choice.


The key is "almost cheating."

I moved from a huge shop into a small one and had to ditch the separate
machines. The switch was not without some issues. I had to learn to be much
more organized and think through the steps for each phase of the project.

In a few years I will be building another shop and I am starting to think
about what machines I will use then.

Really want to thank all that have responded with advice on what I should
be getting. That is what I like about this group, you ask a question and
get strait forward answers.

Again, THANKS.

Ray
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"Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman" wrote in message
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If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)? I need to work on my
small garage and am undecided as to what it is that I really need.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
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ts, jointer, planer.

Can't do much without square stock, and I don't have the patience to
four-square by hand.

jc

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:22:48 GMT, "Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman"
wrote:

If you were to build a garage shop, what would be the three (3) shop
tools - like table saws, etc. - that you would absolutely need to have
(not including hand tools, manual or electric)?

What do you want to make to start out?

- Band saws aren't as useful for plywood cabinets as they might be for
fine furniture.

- Jointers and planers don't do well with plywood and MDF.

- Some fine furniture makes forgo a table saw, but live and die with a
band saw, jointer, and planer.

- Some guys don't use power tools at all, and still work pretty
quickly. Check this out:
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/blog3/How+I+Became+A+Hand+Tool+Guru.aspx

- Some folks have good access to good quality s4s lumber, and joint
well-enough using a router or a table saw.

For most woodworkers planning to use power tools, a table saw is a
necessity, and a good all-around first purchase. Don't scrimp here,
a good contractor's saw might be the only table saw you'll ever need.

From there, we need to think about the question at the beginning...

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