How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

"William Andersen" wrote in message
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How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?
I just use a pencil and sand it out. Never thought about removing them
before sanding. Some time I have to sand them out to get ones one on that
I can read.

"William Andersen" wrote in news:7GmHi.99444$Vk6.12043
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How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the
initial
layout?


I usually just make the marks with whatever's handy (I keep pencils in
the shop so they're usually handy) and sand them out. I've been known to
erase the marks, though. Erasers work just as well on wood as they do
paper.

Puckdropper
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"William Andersen" wrote in message
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How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?



Ummm, doesn't sanding remove the pencil marks?

I mark with a pencil normally unless I'm really looking for a perfect fit in
which case I use a marking knife.
Cheers,
cc

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:34:39 -0700, "William Andersen"
wrote:

How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

Alcohol.

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?


Depends. Dovetails and fine marks: knife. Others: Pencil

What a bunch of idiots. Thats what they
make erasers for.

William Andersen skreiv:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?


Naphta works fine.

William Andersen wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

They come off automatically as I plane, scrape and sand. I try to make
them on the light side, and not crush lots of fibers as I mark. I make
my most precise marks with knives, not pencils.

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Chalk, crayons, and pencils, maybe even a Sharpie on ends that I know
will get cut off. I use a lot of crayons on rough lumber.

In article , "William Andersen" wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

By sanding. Or with a card scraper.

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead for most purposes, marking knife for
dovetails and fine details.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"name" wrote in message ...
William Andersen skreiv:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

Don't press so hard, and then sand it off.

Thanks for the ideas. I think the lead in the pencil I used was too soft,
and the pine was soft, oo. It was easy to see, but an eraser didn't remove
it all and it took more sanding than I intended. Sanding just seem to push
the lead further into the wood and spread it.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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In article , "William Andersen"
wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

By sanding. Or with a card scraper.

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead for most purposes, marking knife for
dovetails and fine details.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Thanks for the answers. I guess the lead in the pencil was too soft, and the
pine was soft, too. The eraser diddn't do a good job and I had to sand more
than I wanted to, as the lead just seemed to get worked deeper into the wood
and spread a bit to the sides of the initial mark.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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In article , "William Andersen"
wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

By sanding. Or with a card scraper.

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead for most purposes, marking knife for
dovetails and fine details.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

name wrote:

William Andersen skreiv:

How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?



Naphta works fine.

As does denatured alcohol.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

"William Andersen" wrote in message
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How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?


For most of my marks, things like direction to plane, part numbers, and
alignment marks I use chalk instead of pencil.

For layout lines where chalk would be too wide I use pencil but bear down
very lightly.

"William Andersen" wrote in message
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Thanks for the ideas. I think the lead in the pencil I used was too soft,
and the pine was soft, oo. It was easy to see, but an eraser didn't remove
it all and it took more sanding than I intended. Sanding just seem to push
the lead further into the wood and spread it.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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In article , "William Andersen"
wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

By sanding. Or with a card scraper.

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead for most purposes, marking knife for
dovetails and fine details.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.



If it's taking more than a few of passes with a sander to remove the marks
then I would think you are marking
too hard (and maybe with a soft lead). I typically use No. 2B or 2HB lead
in my mechanical pencils and can remove sanding
marks in no time with the ROS. I might add, the most time spent removing
pencil marks for me, is on the first grit. I suspect this is because I'm
essentially getting the piece flat. Subsequent grits remove pencil marks
much quicker.
On a side note, when I am sanding, to make sure I'm hitting all the spots
evenly, I mark "squiggles" across
the work with a pencil between each grit. This way, I can make sure that
I'm hitting all spots evenly (ie. no pencil marks left anywhere).
Cheers,
cc

On 16 Sep, 23:34, "William Andersen" wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Measure with a micrometer.
Mark with chalk.
Cut with an ax.

In article om, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 16 Sep, 23:34, "William Andersen" wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Measure with a micrometer.
Mark with chalk.
Cut with an ax.

And hammer to fit.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

AMEN !!! Lou
"Lou" wrote in message
oups.com...
What a bunch of idiots. Thats what they
make erasers for.

With softer woods you can use masking tape on the wood when possible. It
makes it easier to get a cleaner mark, and it prevent splintering in softer
woods like pine or cedar. It also makes a blind cat like me see the lines
easier on tape when I use a .3 or.5mm pencil. A cautionary note, get the
tape off as soon as you are done with it. Tape can leave a residue
especially if left too long.

--
Rich Harris

"William Andersen" wrote in message
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Thanks for the answers. I guess the lead in the pencil was too soft, and
the pine was soft, too. The eraser diddn't do a good job and I had to sand
more than I wanted to, as the lead just seemed to get worked deeper into
the wood and spread a bit to the sides of the initial mark.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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In article , "William Andersen"
wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

By sanding. Or with a card scraper.

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Mechanical pencil with 0.5mm lead for most purposes, marking knife for
dovetails and fine details.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Sep 17, 11:46 am, "Frank Drackman" wrote:
"William Andersen" wrote in message

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How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

For most of my marks, things like direction to plane, part numbers, and
alignment marks I use chalk instead of pencil.

For layout lines where chalk would be too wide I use pencil but bear down
very lightly.

If I'm using pencil I sort of hold it so it's nearly parallel to the
surface of the wood and then the point doesn't jab in as much. This
is also helpful when marking open pored woods like red oak or really
checky wood like a lot of the jarrah/kari I see. White chalk is good
too, but for some reason I never seem to have it around.

JP

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:34:39 -0700, "William Andersen" wrote:

How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?

Your pencil marks, or did a crumb catcher scribble on something?
(Usually a big difference)

How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial layout?

I use a soft lead carpenters pencil, the rectangular ones..

The key, in MHO, is soft lead and only as much pressure as needed... you're
marking, not scoring, right?

I usually kind of scribble a pattern of light lines on the surface before
sanding, to help reference flatness as they get sanded off..

Pencil lead on the wood surface is easy to get rid of or "erase" with light
pressure and fine grit paper, while grooves from heavy pressure on the pencil
require courser grits and a lot of language that the grand kids aren't supposed
to hear.. YMWV


mac

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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:25:28 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote:

In article om, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 16 Sep, 23:34, "William Andersen" wrote:
How do you remove pencil marks from wood before sanding/finishing?
How do you mark wood when you're planning the cuts and doing the initial
layout?

Measure with a micrometer.
Mark with chalk.
Cut with an ax.

And hammer to fit.

But only leave the nails in until the glue dries..


mac

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