You would think that what we pay for a piece of equipment, that the
manufactures could produce a descent manua.


Who has the worst manual?


Thank you


Rodl

Only 1 comes to mind from the hundreds of tools I've bought for home and
work... A milling machine from Grizzly was a literal translation from
Chinese. Almost comical to read.

"Rod Upfold" wrote in message
...
You would think that what we pay for a piece of equipment, that the
manufactures could produce a descent manua.


Who has the worst manual?


Thank you


Rodl

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
It's a toss up. Name a brand, and at least some of that brand's manuals
will be
terrible. About 36 brands have some decent manuals. No brand has all good
manuals.


Cept probably Leigh.

Leon responds:

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
It's a toss up. Name a brand, and at least some of that brand's manuals
will be
terrible. About 36 brands have some decent manuals. No brand has all good
manuals.


Cept probably Leigh.


Ya got me! You are correct. Their manuals are nearly unbelievable they're so
good.



Charlie Self

"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without
integrity is dangerous and dreadful."
Samuel Johnson

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:19:28 -0400, Rod Upfold
pixelated:

You would think that what we pay for a piece of equipment, that the
manufactures could produce a descent manua.

You'd think that, given the price we pay, a Wrecker could
at least spell "manufacturers", "decent", and "manual", eh?

Who has the worst manual?

My vote goes to Harbor Fright for Japanese pre-translated
Taiwanese-translated Engrish manuals from China. Y'know,
they're usually the one-sheet jobs.


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Larry Jaques wrote in
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:19:28 -0400, Rod Upfold
pixelated:

You would think that what we pay for a piece of equipment, that the
manufactures could produce a descent manua.

You'd think that, given the price we pay, a Wrecker could
at least spell "manufacturers", "decent", and "manual", eh?

Who has the worst manual?

My vote goes to Harbor Fright for Japanese pre-translated
Taiwanese-translated Engrish manuals from China. Y'know,
they're usually the one-sheet jobs.


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Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.
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The one that always cracked me up was a Sony manual that said that the
signal was "sprit" 3 ways.

r


--
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
magic."

Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - ), "Technology and the Future"

You should see the ones that typically ship with Japanese CNC mills.
$100.000 for the mill and a nearly incomprehensible manual.
"2manytoyz" wrote in message
om...
Only 1 comes to mind from the hundreds of tools I've bought for home and
work... A milling machine from Grizzly was a literal translation from
Chinese. Almost comical to read.

"Rod Upfold" wrote in message
...
You would think that what we pay for a piece of equipment, that the
manufactures could produce a descent manua.


Who has the worst manual?


Thank you


Rodl

CW responds:

You should see the ones that typically ship with Japanese CNC mills.
$100.000 for the mill and a nearly incomprehensible manual.
"2manytoyz" wrote in message
. com...
Only 1 comes to mind from the hundreds of tools I've bought for home and
work... A milling machine from Grizzly was a literal translation from
Chinese. Almost comical to read.

Ya hadda be there, I think, but...one helluva long time ago ('62), I was
working for a small ad agency down on Williams St, in NYC; a friend bought one
of the early Honda motorbikes, a 50cc buzzer. A great little "zip up the West
Side Drive" vehicle if you were lucky enough to stay out of the way of the
Pontiacs, Buicks, Fords and whatnot that made up the major sources of crumpled
sheetmetal. The manual was damned near impossible to read without laughing. In
fact, it was damned near impossible to read.

Charlie Self

"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without
integrity is dangerous and dreadful."
Samuel Johnson

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 04:10:06 -0000, Rich Andrews
pixelated:

Who has the worst manual?

My vote goes to Harbor Fright for Japanese pre-translated
Taiwanese-translated Engrish manuals from China. Y'know,
they're usually the one-sheet jobs.

The one that always cracked me up was a Sony manual that said that the
signal was "sprit" 3 ways.

That must have been a Freudian srip.


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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:19:28 -0400, Rod Upfold
pixelated:

My vote goes to Harbor Fright for Japanese pre-translated
Taiwanese-translated Engrish manuals from China. Y'know,
they're usually the one-sheet jobs.

I'll second that...

You'll usually find something along the lines of "Warning! Never before
fingers to put! Correlation can be caustic or eye damage!" Admittedly, I'll
spend the 60 seconds to see if I can make heads'er'tails out'a it.

Silvan wrote in news:sqvh31-ndb.ln1
@giganator.family.lan:

Rod Upfold wrote:

Who has the worst manual?

My Grizzly bandsaw are were hard to putting from instruct together, as I
recall. I'm too lazy to go dig it out.

I've seen some real doosies though. Computer stuff actually has to be
the
worst, I think.


It helps to read the manuals out loud with a really bad Japanese accent as
in "the lice bowl was sprit tree way by catawac dwiver". (:)

r


--
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
magic."

Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - ), "Technology and the Future"

I'll second that!1 They were half printed in Japanese and a little
Engish ( or something close to it). Had a 175 and the manual was
totally worthless but we all them because they were a curiousity item.

On 15 Sep 2003 10:24:54 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:

CW responds:

You should see the ones that typically ship with Japanese CNC mills.
$100.000 for the mill and a nearly incomprehensible manual.
"2manytoyz" wrote in message
.com...
Only 1 comes to mind from the hundreds of tools I've bought for home and
work... A milling machine from Grizzly was a literal translation from
Chinese. Almost comical to read.

Ya hadda be there, I think, but...one helluva long time ago ('62), I was
working for a small ad agency down on Williams St, in NYC; a friend bought one
of the early Honda motorbikes, a 50cc buzzer. A great little "zip up the West
Side Drive" vehicle if you were lucky enough to stay out of the way of the
Pontiacs, Buicks, Fords and whatnot that made up the major sources of crumpled
sheetmetal. The manual was damned near impossible to read without laughing. In
fact, it was damned near impossible to read.

Charlie Self

"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without
integrity is dangerous and dreadful."
Samuel Johnson

Larry Ramsey responds:

I'll second that!1 They were half printed in Japanese and a little
Engish ( or something close to it). Had a 175 and the manual was
totally worthless but we all them because they were a curiousity item.

On 15 Sep 2003 10:24:54 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:

CW responds:

You should see the ones that typically ship with Japanese CNC mills.
$100.000 for the mill and a nearly incomprehensible manual.
"2manytoyz" wrote in message
r.com...
Only 1 comes to mind from the hundreds of tools I've bought for home and
work... A milling machine from Grizzly was a literal translation from
Chinese. Almost comical to read.

Ya hadda be there, I think, but...one helluva long time ago ('62), I was
working for a small ad agency down on Williams St, in NYC; a friend bought
one
of the early Honda motorbikes, a 50cc buzzer. A great little "zip up the
West
Side Drive" vehicle if you were lucky enough to stay out of the way of the
Pontiacs, Buicks, Fords and whatnot that made up the major sources of
crumpled
sheetmetal. The manual was damned near impossible to read without laughing.
In

Damn. I had nearly forgotten the 305cc Honda Super Hawk I bought in, I think,
'65. One neat motorcycle until I tried off-roading it a bit. But the manual
was incredibly unreadable.

Charlie Self

"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without
integrity is dangerous and dreadful."
Samuel Johnson

Larry Jaques wrote in rec.woodworking

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 04:10:06 -0000, Rich Andrews
pixelated:

Who has the worst manual?

My vote goes to Harbor Fright for Japanese pre-translated
Taiwanese-translated Engrish manuals from China. Y'know,
they're usually the one-sheet jobs.

I once bought something at HF, don't remember what it was, but the
manual was small xeroxed sheet of paper that actually had some
handwritten info added at the bottom.

It took me a while to find this website again, but it's worth the read:
http://www.engrish.com/

;-)

charlie b wrote:

Sked Dule rather than Shed Dule. How do Brits
pronounce "school"?

Same way we do, I think. British pronunciation is weird though. I find a
lot of words that we Americans pronounce in a manner that I would expect to
be more characteristic of the British, and vice versa.

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Ward Cleaver wrote:

I once bought something at HF, don't remember what it was, but the
manual was small xeroxed sheet of paper that actually had some
handwritten info added at the bottom.

Yeah, I've seen that a lot. Usually really whispy thin paper at that.

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One of the reasons for this is that many companies use their engineers
to write the user manual thereby saving the cost of a dedicated
technical writer (yes - I is a tech wroter). As an example I've been
having a long battle with our engineers about a button in our Internet
interface. It says "delete mailbox." We get about a call a month from
customers who wonder if this will delete (as in destroy) their
e-mailbox. All it really does is "empty mailbox." Your next e-mail
will be delivered with no problem.

They won't change the button because technically it does delete the
mailbox, but reconstructs it with the next e-mail. I've tried to argue
that the customer really doesn't care about being technically
accurate, they just want to empty out their mailbox.

Thanks for letting me vent -- this little problem has been bugging me
for 3 years (along with an un-numbered amount of customer calls).

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:19:28 -0400, Rod Upfold wrote:

You would think that what we pay for a piece of equipment, that the
manufactures could produce a descent manua.


Who has the worst manual?


Thank you


Rodl