http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping...-loft-sys.html

Damn. For the price these people are asking if you're not sure you
could do a good job making one yoursef, you could afford to make 3 or 4
prototypes from cheap wood, until you get it right, and still have
enough money to make another out of wood of your choice.



JOAT
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.
(I have a catapult. Give me all your money, or I will fling an enormous
rock at your head.)

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:08:25 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Damn. For the price these people are asking if you're not sure you
could do a good job making one yoursef, you could afford to make 3 or 4
prototypes from cheap wood, until you get it right, and still have
enough money to make another out of wood of your choice.

But it is a hacker safe site though.........

Oy

Mark
http://home.mchsi.com/~xphome/

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:08:25 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Damn. For the price these people are asking if you're not sure you
could do a good job making one yoursef, you could afford to make 3 or 4
prototypes from cheap wood, until you get it right, and still have
enough money to make another out of wood of your choice.

A lot of those sites are for people with more dollars than sense and
don't have a clue what they're doing. I'm sure if you looked around,
you could easily find a similar bed for 1/2 the price. They're
counting on the fact that people are stupid.

Brian Henderson, wrote the following at or about 4/5/2007 11:12 AM:

A lot of those sites are for people with more dollars than sense and
don't have a clue what they're doing. I'm sure if you looked around,
you could easily find a similar bed for 1/2 the price. They're
counting on the fact that people are stupid.


And that's a bet I'll take any day of the week. So many sheep, so
little time to shear them...g

On Apr 5, 10:08 am, (J T) wrote:
http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping...-loft-sys.html

Damn. For the price these people are asking if you're not sure you
could do a good job making one yoursef, you could afford to make 3 or 4
prototypes from cheap wood, until you get it right, and still have
enough money to make another out of wood of your choice.

I appreciate the neat things you find for us to consider building.
However, this looks like a reasonable charge to me. Looks like two
weeks plus for all the stuff included in the 2K price. For me more
like four weeks plus. How much you get an hour?

Thu, Apr 5, 2007, 8:31pm (EDT-3) doth sayeth:
I appreciate the neat things you find for us to consider building.
However, this looks like a reasonable charge to me. Looks like two weeks
plus for all the stuff included in the 2K price. For me more like four
weeks plus. How much you get an hour?

Reasonable, eh? OK, you send me the same $2K+ those guys are
asking, and I should be able to find someone to make one for you for
half of it.

If I was making something for one of my kids, or more likely my
grand-dau, it wouldn't matter if I considered my time worth $1, $10, or
$100 an hour, becuse I wouldn't factor that in.



JOAT
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.
(I have a catapult. Give me all your money, or I will fling an enormous
rock at your head.)

On Apr 6, 5:15 pm, (J T) wrote:
Thu, Apr 5, 2007, 8:31pm (EDT-3) doth sayeth:
I appreciate the neat things you find for us to consider building.
However, this looks like a reasonable charge to me. Looks like two weeks
plus for all the stuff included in the 2K price. For me more like four
weeks plus. How much you get an hour?

Reasonable, eh? OK, you send me the same $2K+ those guys are
asking, and I should be able to find someone to make one for you for
half of it.

If I was making something for one of my kids, or more likely my
grand-dau, it wouldn't matter if I considered my time worth $1, $10, or
$100 an hour, becuse I wouldn't factor that in.

JOAT
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.
(I have a catapult. Give me all your money, or I will fling an enormous
rock at your head.)

Of course if you are going to build one of these units for family it
wouldn't factor what you charge per hour. My point was simply that it
seems a fair price for a commercially produced bedroom set consisting
of one twin loft bed with safety rails, ladder, built in desk on one
side, bookshelf and dresser. If you were to find me someone who would
build me these units for $1,000 I would expect to get poor quality
materials, poor quality craftsmanship, or most likely both.

Markem wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:08:25 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Damn. For the price these people are asking if you're not sure you
could do a good job making one yoursef, you could afford to make 3 or 4
prototypes from cheap wood, until you get it right, and still have
enough money to make another out of wood of your choice.

But it is a hacker safe site though.........

Oy

Mark
http://home.mchsi.com/~xphome/


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Mark ... followed your link and you had me going for a moment. I thought
that you were making a tray for a laptop computer. Nice tv dinner table.

Very nice.
Bill

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On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:37:39 -0400, Bill in Detroit
wrote:

Mark ... followed your link and you had me going for a moment. I thought
that you were making a tray for a laptop computer. Nice tv dinner table.

It is for a laptop computer actually.

Thanks
Mark
http://home.mchsi.com/~xphome/

Markem wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:37:39 -0400, Bill in Detroit
wrote:

Mark ... followed your link and you had me going for a moment. I thought
that you were making a tray for a laptop computer. Nice tv dinner table.

It is for a laptop computer actually.

Thanks
Mark
http://home.mchsi.com/~xphome/


If I ever get caught up (yeah, right!) on the stuff I already have lined
up, I think I'd like to make one like that for camping ... except that I
think I'd give it a hinged top and padded 'nest' so that the laptop
could also travel in it and I'd have the lid to hold papers and make it
a little less obvious what I was doing. Also, once locked, the table
would be a little more trouble to sneak off with inside of a jacket.

Bill


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Reasonable, eh? OK, you send me the same $2K+ those guys are
asking, and I should be able to find someone to make one for you for
half of it.



I thought you said you could build one, now you want to find someone
to build it.
I'll bet the computer geeks say the same thing when they see a 2k
computer
advertised and they could build one for $1500.
Lou

On 8 Apr 2007 03:51:52 -0700, "Lou" wrote:



Reasonable, eh? OK, you send me the same $2K+ those guys are
asking, and I should be able to find someone to make one for you for
half of it.



I thought you said you could build one, now you want to find someone
to build it.
I'll bet the computer geeks say the same thing when they see a 2k
computer
advertised and they could build one for $1500.

Actually if it is a $2K computer retail, $1k would be more likely with
out all the extra trash loaded on the hard drive.

Mark

Fri, Apr 6, 2007, 2:57pm (EDT-3) doth sayeth
snip My point was simply that it seems a fair price for a commercially
produced bedroom set snip for $1,000 I would expect to get poor
quality materials, poor quality craftsmanship, or most likely both.

Maybe it would be considered a fair price in your part of the
world.

Hell, you can get crappy work and materials fo a lot more than that
if you want to pay it.

If I was going to make one, and I'm not, I'd probably make it out
of poplar or some other inexpensive wod. It won't matter a bit to a
kid, so don't worry about it. The "desk" looks like a simple shelf t
me. I'd go to a used furniture store, or yard sale, and get a cheap,
sturdy, dresser, clean it up, and re-finish it. Depending on what part
ofthe coundry you're in you're talking low hundreds of dllars, not low
thousands. Probably 2-3 weekend's work. If you want to buy one
similar, shop around, I've seen very similar going for a whole lot less.



JOAT
In the rough is just enough.

Sun, Apr 8, 2007, 3:51am (EDT-3) (Lou) doth sayeth:
I thought you said you could build one, now you want to find someone to
build it.
I'll bet the computer geeks say the same thing when they see a 2k
computer
advertised and they could build one for $1500.

Yeah, I could build one, it ain't rccket science after all. But I
don't want to, so I'm not going to.



JOAT
In the rough is just enough.

I forgot to mention. I've been working on a bed design, for
myself, for some time now, nohing on paper. I've been having a hard
time figuring out some fastening, I plan on it being totally
knock-down, if I can. In the midst of all this it suddenly struck me
how to do them. If for nothing else, you guys are useful in getting
the creative juices flowing. For what it's worth, the prototype will be
plywood, for probably less then $100. Then I'll proably never get
around to making a final version, so that'll be it.



JOAT
In the rough is just enough.