Posted awhile back and got several good suggestions, thanks to all. I
picked up an 18" Parks bandsaw, sold by sears and roebuck. It needs
some work. I was thinking about a new motor. I found a 2hp tefc
Baldor on ebay for 212 plus shipping, it's rated as farm duty. Is
farm duty ok for woodworking machinery? I have some pictures posted
on flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattmblack/

Some other questions:
1. Is it ok to have the motor held up by the belt, like on a
tablesaw?
2. Would customizing some cool blocks be a good idea for blade
guides, or would a company like Carter have some bearings for a saw
like this?
3. The material on the table where the blade goes through appears to
be lead. Leave it alone or change it to plastic or something?
4. How important is coplanarity? I either need to bring the upper
wheel out or push the lower one in(if that's even possible). The
upper wheel will require a bearing puller to even remove it. Is it
worth it.

Thanks in advance!
Matt

Hello Matt,
I purchased a Baldor Farm duty motor for my Delta 14 inch BS but one
thing I did not anticipate is that the housing where the power cord is
attached aslo houses the thermal overload reset and this box would not
allow me to open the lower blade guard door to change blades. I
remedied this by cutting off the bottom half of the door and
reattaching it with some thumb nuts I got from Kreg (Thanks KREG
TOOLS!) Make certain that your motor's dimensions will fit in the
space without any major modifications.
I do not think you'd be happy with the motor held up like a table saw
but if that's how your BS is designed then that's what you'll get.
Fixing the motor and using a link belt like your photo presents would
allow more power to be transmitted to the blade, hence less slippage
or stalling.
Cool blocks are great and a lot cheaper than Carter guides but I do
not know if they are made for all types of saws. Here is the Carter
Website ( http://www.carterproducts.com/ ) because I think they list
guides for most saws. I have Carter guides and I am very please with
their performance. I also put the Carter Stabilizer on one saw.
Depending on what you want to do with your saw you might find the
Stabilizer worth the cost.
The insert on my BS is not lead but it is a soft metal that does not
destroy the blade when struck. Some of the other veterans here could
tell you what those inserts are made from.
I was able to remove the upper wheel from two of my Delta bandsaws
without a puller and the lower wheel from one. I borrowed a puller to
do the stuck wheel but they are not very expensive. When replacing
the wheels and reinstalling the bearings use antisieze or a good grade
grease. This will help with any future removal you might encounter.
I'm not going to touch the whell planar issue. Leaving that to the
veterans.
Again, be certain that the Farm Duty motor does not have any
protrusions that would interfere with its installation. Good luck with
your upgrade!

Marc


On Apr 2, 9:11 pm, "mattblack" wrote:
Posted awhile back and got several good suggestions, thanks to all. I
picked up an 18" Parks bandsaw, sold by sears and roebuck. It needs
some work. I was thinking about a new motor. I found a 2hp tefc
Baldor on ebay for 212 plus shipping, it's rated as farm duty. Is
farm duty ok for woodworking machinery? I have some pictures posted
on flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattmblack/

Some other questions:
1. Is it ok to have the motor held up by the belt, like on a
tablesaw?
2. Would customizing some cool blocks be a good idea for blade
guides, or would a company like Carter have some bearings for a saw
like this?
3. The material on the table where the blade goes through appears to
be lead. Leave it alone or change it to plastic or something?
4. How important is coplanarity? I either need to bring the upper
wheel out or push the lower one in(if that's even possible). The
upper wheel will require a bearing puller to even remove it. Is it
worth it.

Thanks in advance!
Matt

"marc rosen" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello Matt,
I purchased a Baldor Farm duty motor for my Delta 14 inch BS but one
thing I did not anticipate is that the housing where the power cord is
attached aslo houses the thermal overload reset and this box would not
allow me to open the lower blade guard door to change blades. I
remedied this by cutting off the bottom half of the door and
reattaching it with some thumb nuts I got from Kreg (Thanks KREG
TOOLS!) Make certain that your motor's dimensions will fit in the
space without any major modifications.
I do not think you'd be happy with the motor held up like a table saw
but if that's how your BS is designed then that's what you'll get.
Fixing the motor and using a link belt like your photo presents would
allow more power to be transmitted to the blade, hence less slippage
or stalling.
Cool blocks are great and a lot cheaper than Carter guides but I do
not know if they are made for all types of saws. Here is the Carter
Website ( http://www.carterproducts.com/ ) because I think they list
guides for most saws. I have Carter guides and I am very please with
their performance. I also put the Carter Stabilizer on one saw.
Depending on what you want to do with your saw you might find the
Stabilizer worth the cost.
The insert on my BS is not lead but it is a soft metal that does not
destroy the blade when struck. Some of the other veterans here could
tell you what those inserts are made from.
I was able to remove the upper wheel from two of my Delta bandsaws
without a puller and the lower wheel from one. I borrowed a puller to
do the stuck wheel but they are not very expensive. When replacing
the wheels and reinstalling the bearings use antisieze or a good grade
grease. This will help with any future removal you might encounter.
I'm not going to touch the whell planar issue. Leaving that to the
veterans.
Again, be certain that the Farm Duty motor does not have any
protrusions that would interfere with its installation. Good luck with
your upgrade!


I opened the case and swapped ends with the armature. Worked fine, but I
did forget on the test run that I had also reversed the rotation by doing
so.

For the OP

I think hanging a 2HP on a single belt will eat the bearings. You'll want
stabilization to maintain belt/motor alignment, so think in terms of
threaded rods and stops or T-nuts instead.

Cool blocks can be your own wood or phenolic if necessary. I like ceramic,
but I do a lot of wet wood pivoting from one side, so I'd wear the interior
cool block and clog the bearings with sap. IIRC, this should have
cylindrical. We had a Parks back at the University.

The insert is probably a zinc or heavy to zinc "pot metal" casting. Make
your own replacements out of UHMW plastic, making sure to stay flush to the
table.

Coplanarity gives you full range of compensation for tracking with crowned
tires. Get yourself to neutral on the top and figure out your desired
direction. It's a one-time deal, normally, and pays dividends in blade
stability. You may just want to move that lower with a few taps on the
inside race with a PVC pipe and resnug the grub screw. Screwing around up
top offers too many chances to knock it out of secondary alignment, so
unless it's easy with a slotted wedge, leave it be.

Farm duty is fine, it just means that the motor is designed to accept a
dusty, wet, cow poo environment. In fact, that is a lot like my shop.
The thing the blade goes through is a piece of aluminum....so it will not
hurt the blade if they contact and so that sparks will not result starting a
fire in the sawdust.
Dave
"mattblack" wrote in message
ps.com...
Posted awhile back and got several good suggestions, thanks to all. I
picked up an 18" Parks bandsaw, sold by sears and roebuck. It needs
some work. I was thinking about a new motor. I found a 2hp tefc
Baldor on ebay for 212 plus shipping, it's rated as farm duty. Is
farm duty ok for woodworking machinery? I have some pictures posted
on flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattmblack/

Some other questions:
1. Is it ok to have the motor held up by the belt, like on a
tablesaw?
2. Would customizing some cool blocks be a good idea for blade
guides, or would a company like Carter have some bearings for a saw
like this?
3. The material on the table where the blade goes through appears to
be lead. Leave it alone or change it to plastic or something?
4. How important is coplanarity? I either need to bring the upper
wheel out or push the lower one in(if that's even possible). The
upper wheel will require a bearing puller to even remove it. Is it
worth it.

Thanks in advance!
Matt

I picked up an 18" Parks bandsaw, sold by sears and roebuck.

I have that saw. it's a tank. it's very much worth getting up and
running. mine is a wood/metal model- it has a 2 speed gearbox. kind of
a waste for me- I only use it at top speed for wood.


1. Is it ok to have the motor held up by the belt, like on a
tablesaw?

best to avoid that.

2. Would customizing some cool blocks be a good idea for blade
guides, or would a company like Carter have some bearings for a saw
like this?

I made mine from red oak soaked in motor oil. it works fine, and no
problems with staining.


3. The material on the table where the blade goes through appears to
be lead. Leave it alone or change it to plastic or something?

mine is aluminum. I really doubt it's lead. lead is so soft it'd sag
immediately from the friction of sawdust being pulled through.
that insert is a somewhat disposable item- it's gonna take some abuse
and sooner or later will need replacement. replace it when
necessary....



4. How important is coplanarity?

depends who you ask.....


I either need to bring the upper
wheel out or push the lower one in(if that's even possible).

on mine the lower wheel drifted out on it's shaft. gave me fits until
I figured out what was happening. the lower is held to the driven
lower shaft with a beefy set screw. loosen that screw and tap the
wheel hub gently back until it seats. then tighten that screw pretty
tight.


The upper wheel will require a bearing puller to even remove it. Is it
worth it.

avoid that.

note that the upper arm is bolted to the lower body of the saw, but
you can't (IIRC) remove it completely as it is trapped within the
welded-to-the-lower-body upper blade guard. however, you can loosen it
and shift/shim it to get a little adjustment of the upper wheel.

2HP is about right for this saw.

also know that www.owwm has the owner's manual and service manual (I
think) available for free download.



Thanks in advance!
Matt

yoobetcha!
Bridger

I commented on your flicker set.

see mine at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bridger...in/set-945767/