Because of changing needs, I've been needing to make a new saw
sled. The old one would have worked, but would h ave been awkward,
compared to a dedicaed sled. Besides, I tool the old one apart, to
salvage a couple of pieces for the new sled. Some of you'll probably
remember the old sled, the one painted yellow with ligtning bolts
painted one it. Worked damn well too.

The new sled has lagged because it'll be for semi-production use,
and will be a bit specialized. I've been trying to design someting
that's a bit complex, but not over engineered. So, the design has been
ever changing. Always workable, but never what I really wanted either.

Then yesterday I was in the shop, looked at a "quick fix" sorta
mitre guage, and it instantly hit me what I'd been after. My jaw
dropped and I asked myself, "Can it really be that simple?", and myself
said, "Yup, seems to be.". It'll be a bit more complex then the "quick
fix" rig Id made, but one Hell of a lot less complex than the other
designs I'd been pondering. And, it'll work as well or better too. I
proceeded to cut the runners, and a few spares, from 1/4" plywood -
yeah, they'll work find, I've used such before. I can't tell you how
I'll be makng it yet, because I haven'tl made it yet. The basic design
is simple, and in my head, I won't be putting anything on paper. Later
on I'll be making another, general use, sled, that'll have the gadgets
and complexity that's so much fun to make and use. But, this one will
be pretty much basic and simple.

I design things like this in my mind. In color even. It always
kinda puzzles me when people say they can't do that. I think anyone
can, if they just put their mind to it. I think it may be because of
not reading enough. When I was a kid, we didn't h ave a TV until long
after I was in the 7th grade, probably 9th or 10 anyway, but can't
recall now. I'd always read, but lived near a bunch of kids until the
7th grade, when we moved. It was then I discovered the library system.
The town we moved to had a small library. Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues
Under The Sea, ahh, read that, use your imagination to picture what
everyone was doing. Now kids look at a tube, and all the imagining is
done by someone else. I have the boob tub on most of the time, but as
much for background noise as much as anything - but did just watch Lilo
and Stitch, and am watching Buzz Lightyear now. You know, reality
shows. LMAO

I probably won't paint this saw sled. But if I change my mind
it'll be yellow. Minus the lightning bolts.

It's like Granny Weatherwax says, "It's not hard, if you get your
mind right.".

Life is basically good.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

J T wrote:
Because of changing needs, I've been needing to make a new saw
sled. The old one would have worked, but would h ave been awkward,
compared to a dedicaed sled. Besides, I tool the old one apart, to
salvage a couple of pieces for the new sled. Some of you'll probably
remember the old sled, the one painted yellow with ligtning bolts
painted one it. Worked damn well too.

I need a new one also and have not figured it out yet
I design in my mind also and work out problems sometime I get the
answer while I sleep.

When you get yours done maybe you could post a picture or e-mail me one
Thanks

(J T) wrote in news:14517-459AA791-989
@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net:

*snip*

I design things like this in my mind. In color even. It always
kinda puzzles me when people say they can't do that. I think anyone
can, if they just put their mind to it. I think it may be because of
not reading enough.

*snip*

For many people, something like this is a gift. It would be pretty
difficult for someone without the ability to gain it just by sheer will
power.

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Tue, Jan 2, 2007, 1:12pm (EST-3) (glen2pat) doth
queryeth:
snip When you get yours done maybe you could post a picture or e-mail
me one

E-mail? Never happen. Post? Possibly so, but still working on
taking pictures of my latest router table, the one that was finished
weeks ago, so don't hold your breath.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 3:56am (EST+5) (Puckdropper)
doth sayeth:
For many people, something like this is a gift. It would be pretty
difficult for someone without the ability to gain it just by sheer will
power.

I still feel that more people could do it if the actually tried.
I'd say start by relaxing in a comfortable chair, with quiet, and eyes
closed, then just try to visualize whatever - I betcha those seme peole
could visualize a nekkid woman easily enough. However, like I said, I
think it could be because so many people were brought up watching TV,
instead of reading - no using the imagination, soneone's already did the
imagining for them. Hmm, maybe that's why so many people never find the
instructions, or the 1-800 number, on the backs of the labels.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

"J T" wrote in message

no using the imagination, soneone's already did the
imagining for them.

You probably wouldn't know, being an old fart Luddite for the most part, but
your remarks above EXACTLY illustrate the vast difference between the old
computer games like "Pirate", when computers were used only by the
technically literate, versus the graphics heavy crap made for the Dummies in
the past ten years or so.

Those old computer games were all text based ... *you* supplied the graphics
entirely in your mind/imagination.

It was a unique interactive experience.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/02/07

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:42:25 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

I design things like this in my mind. In color even. It always
kinda puzzles me when people say they can't do that. I think anyone
can, if they just put their mind to it.

Well, it's possible- but everyone's mind works differently. I don't
believe I've ever visualized anything in color, but I can keep track
of a thing or two if I really put my mind to it. Much easier for me
to use paper, though. OTHO, I can remember almost anything related to
sound, and can playback most things I've ever heard in my head- it's a
handy thing to lean on when it comes time to remember something.

That being said, I don't think I'd claim that everyone can do that- I
used to think that people were just being lazy when they didn't
understand things, but it's become more and more clear to me over time
that that is not always the case. Anyone can improve themself to some
degree, but there will always be something that is out of reach for
each of us, no matter how hard we try for it. What irritates me are
the people who are obviously capable of more, but are willfully
ignorant.

I think it may be because of
not reading enough. When I was a kid, we didn't h ave a TV until long
after I was in the 7th grade, probably 9th or 10 anyway, but can't
recall now. I'd always read, but lived near a bunch of kids until the
7th grade, when we moved.

I can't agree enough with the idea that not only kids, but adults are
no longer reading enough- though for slightly different reasons. It's
been my experience that television and other forms of multimedia are
restricted in what they can realistically convey- while watching a
movie will give a person a broad idea about a topic, reading the book
that movie was based on will fill in thousands of gaps that the
average viewer will never know were there to be filled. Especially
when it comes to internal dialogue and supplimental information, a
book beats a moving picture hands down for me.

But simply having television availible isn't the difference- I grew up
in a house that had at least two televisions running at all times.
Those suckers were the first thing on in the morning, and the last
things to be shut off at night. If you can believe it, that's how I
learned to read in the first place (Sesame Street.)

I still read plenty of books, perhaps more than you'd believe if I
told you, and certainly more than I could accurately count. I still
own a TV, and watch it from time to time, but I limit my use of it to
Sunday afternoons only- more than that, and it is just stealing my
already insufficient time from me. Even so, my ability to visualize
things is far weaker than other faculties... so I guess I'd have to
say that I disagree with the notion that just anyone can develop a
highly attuned ability to visualize things- though I congratulate you
on your ability to do it. That's a rare and useful talent.

"J T" wrote in message
...

snip
The basic design is simple, and in my head, I won't be putting anything on
paper.

snip
JOAT



You know - once you build it, you really should make a plan web
accessible....

There are people out there who look for, and promote links to, plans like
that....



Cheers -

Rob

Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 6:33am (EST-1) (Swingman) doth sayeth:
You probably wouldn't know, being an old fart Luddite for the most part,
but your remarks above EXACTLY illustrate the vast difference between
the old computer games like "Pirate", when computers were used only by
the technically literate, snip

Ha! Gotcha there. As unbelievable as it may sound, I have either
played Pirage, or a game very similar. The times I did got to the
treasure chest I always wound up blowing it before I could claim it.
Turns out that ong ago, not so far away, in another life, I was a
computer operator, most of it lead operator. Thatt left me with a deep
distrust of programmers, and a Very firm conviction that most computer
users, at least in a manufacturing environment, are complete computer
idiots - and no imagination.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 7:44am (EST-1)
(Prometheus) doth sayeth:
Well, it's possible- but everyone's mind works differently. snip of the
rest in the interest of brevity

Ah yes, what I "should" have said, what I meant, was that I think
"most" people, say at least over 50%, could do it, which I do believe
would be possible. I really try hard not to make flat statements like I
did, but at times do anyway - because I believe few things are just
black or just white, but different shades of gray. As for color, I
understand a lot of people don't dream, or visualize, in color - I
always have.

Well, if I want to keep track of someting for a long time, paper is
the prefrred method. Saves the problem of thinking. Then all you need
to know is where you stored the paper. Sometims not thinking is good.

I've heard kids say they "can't" do, or "arent good", or "can't
remember", math, English, or anything else to do with school. But at
the same time they can remember perfectly 100 or so so-called songs, or
rap, or whatever. I figure it's becuse they don't want to remember the
school stuff and do want to remember the crap. My older son was having
a LOT of problems with match when he was a kid. Because of all the
numbers. I told him he didn't have to remember any numbers excpt 0 to
9. Spent a few minutes with him on that and, while he never turned out
to be another Einstein, he stopped having problems with math. I took an
accounting course once. I knew the theory, but the instructor just kept
confusing me. Then 6 months along, the instructor said one or two
sentences that everything clear to me. If he'd said that on the first
day I'd never have had any problem. As it was, it was too llittle too
late, and I failed the course.

So many of the college grads I've met don't read more than the
sports section. They figure they've got their paper, they don't need to
learn more. I figure a good part of them cheaed to get that paper,
judging from their knowledge.

Offhand, I can't recall any movie "based on a true story" that came
what I'd term "reasonably close" to the real facts. Few of the movies
based on a book are close to the book either.

At one point in my life I was a speed reader - read every wood,
didn't skip over like a lot of speed readers do, just read very fast -
could read up to four paperback books in a day, and often did. Now I am
still a voracious reader, but have slowed down on the reading speed -
partly to better absorb the material, but also partly to cut down on the
cost of my reading. I used to read a LOT of sci-fi - long ago, and
single, I'd usually spend from $100-$300 a month on books. Now I've
pretty much stopped reading sci-fi, but do read, and reread, Terry
Pratchett's Discworld series, that's about the only non-fiction I ead
anymore.. Most of my reading is automotive related, or woodworking,
including wooden boats. Along with steam, firearms, and basically
anything else that interests me that is non-fiction. You want some
"insteresting" reading, pickup a forensic paology book, complete with
color pictures. Urrghh. I just missed out on a two volume set of
books on eBay - shoulda don't more homework on the price - and ordered
three other books on-line within the last 3 days, and expect to get
another off of eBay today.

I hope to be able to start on making some cases for myself soon.
I'll be making measurements, but the exteriors will be identical, only
the interiors will be different - so there'll be no sketches, I'll just
work out the interiors as I go along. I'd hink that if people can't
visualize like I can, that some rough sketches would be the equivalent.
A lot of people won't even try that.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

(J T) wrote, among other things, in news:17943-
:

I hope to be able to start on making some cases for myself soon.
I'll be making measurements, but the exteriors will be identical, only
the interiors will be different - so there'll be no sketches, I'll just
work out the interiors as I go along. I'd hink that if people can't
visualize like I can, that some rough sketches would be the equivalent.
A lot of people won't even try that.


I make the sketches so I can write down the numbers I THINK I remember, but
often don't get exactly right. How it's supposed to look, and work, and
fit together, I can make that happen faster than I can draw it accurately.

This visualization you describe is a talent more rare than I think you give
it credit for. Clearly the ones who have it are in the minority, at least
among many of the folks I know. The ones who can make it fit with their
lives, and hobbies, have done well.

We all have different areas around which we adjust.

BTW, thanks for your musings. They get my thought stream in gear.

Patriarch

On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:27:05 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 7:44am (EST-1)
(Prometheus) doth sayeth:
Well, it's possible- but everyone's mind works differently. snip of the
rest in the interest of brevity

Ah yes, what I "should" have said, what I meant, was that I think
"most" people, say at least over 50%, could do it, which I do believe
would be possible. I really try hard not to make flat statements like I
did, but at times do anyway - because I believe few things are just
black or just white, but different shades of gray. As for color, I
understand a lot of people don't dream, or visualize, in color - I
always have.

That could certainly be true- I know that there are at least
photographic and eidetic mental types, and probably some sort of
empathetic type as well. I'd imagine everyone has at least one sense
that is strong enough to use as a cudgel on most problems (the more
gifted having faculties more akin to a scalpel, of course)

I've heard kids say they "can't" do, or "arent good", or "can't
remember", math, English, or anything else to do with school. But at
the same time they can remember perfectly 100 or so so-called songs, or
rap, or whatever. I figure it's becuse they don't want to remember the
school stuff and do want to remember the crap.

In most cases, that's undoubtedly true. It'd be nice if more teachers
would try and play to that by teaching young folks to associate useful
information with some of the less useful stuff they tend to fill their
heads with. It's a damn shame that by the time most folks realise all
those things that they didn't want to remember would have come in
really handy later in life, it's much harder to learn than it would
have been had they kept hold of it in childhood.

My older son was having
a LOT of problems with match when he was a kid. Because of all the
numbers. I told him he didn't have to remember any numbers excpt 0 to
9. Spent a few minutes with him on that and, while he never turned out
to be another Einstein, he stopped having problems with math. I took an
accounting course once. I knew the theory, but the instructor just kept
confusing me. Then 6 months along, the instructor said one or two
sentences that everything clear to me. If he'd said that on the first
day I'd never have had any problem. As it was, it was too llittle too
late, and I failed the course.

Ahhh.... the old math gripe. I could never understand why, when I was
in school- and more recently, when my wife took her voc. school math
class- they always teach the methods in the same impossibly convoluted
way. By the time you slog through the most difficult way to solve a
simple problem a hundred times or so, all it does it **** the students
off when they finally reveal the simple method. When I was tutoring
her, I just made a point of making her flip a chapter ahead in the
book, and use the easy formulas to solve the problems.


At one point in my life I was a speed reader - read every wood,
didn't skip over like a lot of speed readers do, just read very fast -
could read up to four paperback books in a day, and often did. Now I am
still a voracious reader, but have slowed down on the reading speed -
partly to better absorb the material, but also partly to cut down on the
cost of my reading.

The internet is a wonderful thing for saving money on books. Most of
what I read are classics that are in the public domain, and the
project Gutenberg site is a thing of beauty for that. For a while, I
had a Palm PDA with a backlit screen that would hold about 120 full
books, and I carried that everywhere with me until the battery finally
gave out. It's a damn shame that those seem to be a dead or dying
breed- I haven't managed to find a replacement that is half as good as
the one I used to have for any reasonable price, so it is still
unreplaced.

I used to read a LOT of sci-fi - long ago, and
single, I'd usually spend from $100-$300 a month on books. Now I've
pretty much stopped reading sci-fi, but do read, and reread, Terry
Pratchett's Discworld series, that's about the only non-fiction I ead
anymore..

Never read those, but I like rereading the Dune books from time to
time. The other big ones for repeated readings are the works of Hesse
and Rand, and Clavell's Asian Saga. Most other stuff I read once and
that's plenty.

Most of my reading is automotive related, or woodworking,
including wooden boats. Along with steam, firearms, and basically
anything else that interests me that is non-fiction. You want some
"insteresting" reading, pickup a forensic paology book, complete with
color pictures. Urrghh. I just missed out on a two volume set of
books on eBay - shoulda don't more homework on the price - and ordered
three other books on-line within the last 3 days, and expect to get
another off of eBay today.

Libraries and used bookstores are good places to check as well, though
I expect you know that already. It's kind of sad when you see some of
the stuff libraries get rid of on a regular basis- I got a four volume
set a few years ago that contained every work that had won the Nobel
prize for literature from it's inception until 1980 for $5. They
pulled it and sold it due to lack of interest among the patrons- same
goes for Euclid's Elements and a number of other classic works that
should never be excluded from a good library, no matter how long they
sit on the shelf unread.

I think I'll skip the pathology, though. My interests tend more
towards philosophy than guts.

I hope to be able to start on making some cases for myself soon.
I'll be making measurements, but the exteriors will be identical, only
the interiors will be different - so there'll be no sketches, I'll just
work out the interiors as I go along. I'd think that if people can't
visualize like I can, that some rough sketches would be the equivalent.
A lot of people won't even try that.

Doesn't always even require sketches- I do a lot of seat-of-the-pants
work, and keeping track of the measurements without a mental picture
does me fine.

"Prometheus" wrote in message
the same time they can remember perfectly 100 or so so-called songs, or
rap, or whatever. I figure it's becuse they don't want to remember the
school stuff and do want to remember the crap.

In most cases, that's undoubtedly true.

Isn't that often the case? I remember when I bought my mother a VCR. I went
over with a few movies and spent several hours trying to show her how simple
the onscreen programming was. The VCR sat unused for the next six months
because she said it was too hard to use. Fast forward to Christmas when I
bought her a microwave oven. It had three levels of programming capabilities
with an assortment of additional menus. Two days later when I went to see
her to try and walk her through the instructions for the microwave, she'd
already read the manual and had all the operating functions memorized. I sat
there and watched as she proudly cooked a cake in the thing. I didn't
mention the VCR for fear the cake would have been shoved in my face.

"Prometheus" wrote

Never read those, but I like rereading the Dune books from time to
time.

If you are a Frank Herbert fan, you should pick up a copy of The Dosadi
Experiment. I consider it to be his best work. Very different from his
other works. Complex and very interesting. Herbert was a thinker.

"Upscale" wrote

Two days later when I went to see
her to try and walk her through the instructions for the microwave, she'd
already read the manual and had all the operating functions memorized. I
sat
there and watched as she proudly cooked a cake in the thing. I didn't
mention the VCR for fear the cake would have been shoved in my face.


My wife refuses to read instructions unless she absolutely has to. That is
my job.

But the one thing she just can not figure out how to do is to put batteries
into something. Flashlights, she can do. Almost anything else, from the TV
remote to a cell phone, is my job. She will dump the dead electronic device
in my lap with a fresh battery. My duty, as of that point, is very clear.

I am the official battery changer in the family.

Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 10:12am (Rob*Lee) doth claimeth:
You know - once you build it, you really should make a plan web
accessible....
There are people out there who look for, and promote links to, plans
like that....

Just for that, I'm gonna delay sending in my next order. That'll
teach ya.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 5:44pm (EST-1) (Patriarch)
doth sayeth:
I make the sketches so I can write down the numbers I THINK I remember,
but often don't get exactly right. How it's supposed to look, and work,
and fit together, I can make that happen faster than I can draw it
accurately.
This visualization you describe is a talent more rare than I think you
give it credit for. Clearly the ones who have it are in the minority, at
least among many of the folks I know. The ones who can make it fit with
their lives, and hobbies, have done well.
We all have different areas around which we adjust.
BTW, thanks for your musings. They get my thought stream in gear.

Sketches are goo, and measurements are better. Sometimes I make
something, winging it all the way, and just hold a piece in place, marke
it, chut, and put it in place, no measuring at all. Other times I
measure up the wazoo, writing it all down, somethimes with a sketch(s),
sometimes not. When you write the stuff down, you don't have to
remember. I figure you don't need an accurate sketch, just accurate
measurements.

Maybe visualizing is rarer than I thought, but I still feel more
people could do it. Or maybe they just call it something else. Some of
you guys who say they can do it, try this: Get a book, with pictures of
something you'd love to own/build, but maybe you never will, a huge
sailboat, yacht, mansion, something along those lines, preferably with
plans, or details about how it was built - drool over the pictures, and
think what changes you'd make - do this for a few weeks, and then ask
yourself if you are "visualizing". Betcha at least a few of you can
that couldn't before.. I've got a boat project I've been lanning for
years, but no space to do the work - but I've got almost the whole thing
planned out in my mind, without a single measurement yet - based solely
on one page study plans of about three different boats, and a picture of
another. One day, hopefully. I won't go into any details on my car
project, IF I can ever get the space to start on that.

Got to have some way to get you old guys to thinking. LOL



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 11:38pm (EST-1)
(Prometheus) doth sayeth:
That could certainly be true- I know that there are at least
photographic and eidetic mental types,snip

It'd be nice if more teachers would try and play to that by teaching
young folks to associate useful information with some of the less useful
stuff they tend to fill their heads with. snip

Ahhh.... the old math gripe. snip

The internet is a wonderful thing for saving money on books. snip I
had a Palm PDA snip

Never read those, but I like rereading the Dune books from time to time.
snip

Libraries and used bookstores are good snip
I think I'll skip the pathology, though. My interests tend more towards
philosophy than guts.

Doesn't always even require sketches- I do a lot of seat-of-the-pants
work, and keeping track of the measurements without a mental picture
does me fine.

I think it all depends on what you're thinking about. If you're
thinking about kekkid wimmen, i't probably is more than mere thoughts,
it's pictures too.

I consider the local school system took more effort pushing my
younger son thru the cracks then they did teaching him.

I ran into "new match" once. I'm fairly intelligent, but there was
now way I coulld even begin to understand that crap - it just did not
meake sense at all. Hard to believe that someone actually thought that
was a good idea.

Gods above, I've got all sort of links saved to sites with
literature on-line. But, as nice as that much reading is to have on
hand, there's nothing quite like holding printed words in hand. Just
one of the reasons I like books so much.

If you can't find a suitable replacement battery for your Palm PDA
(I have no idea what the Hell that would be) you could always do like my
kids did in that situation. Get appropriate power battery(s), use wires
to connect to the appropriate power plug, and tape the battery to the
outside. You could even use a car battery that way. LMAO

Watching the Dune movie spoiled the books for me. The movie
probably would have been fine if I'd seen it first, but having read the
books, and getting images in my mind, the movie version just plain
sucked, big-time.

Libraries are good, but I've never found anything I really liked in
their sales. Love used bookstores. I do a pretty fair amount of
cruising on-line for used books too. Thrift stores are worth checking
too.

Oh yeah, you should check a forensic pathology book. No guts as I
recall, but that would have been welcome compared to some of the
pictures - in color no less.


Seat-of-the-pants stuff is always fun because you don't need
mearements.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

J T wrote:
Wed, Jan 3, 2007, 10:12am (Rob Lee) doth claimeth:
You know - once you build it, you really should make a plan web
accessible....
There are people out there who look for, and promote links to, plans
like that....

Just for that, I'm gonna delay sending in my next order. That'll
teach ya.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky


LOL. You're not going to win this one, Robin.

Tanus

--
This is not really a sig.

In article , Rob Lee
wrote:

"J T" wrote in message
...

snip
The basic design is simple, and in my head, I won't be putting anything on
paper.

snip
JOAT



You know - once you build it, you really should make a plan web
accessible....

There are people out there who look for, and promote links to, plans like
that....



Cheers -

Rob

Robin,

Theo may not see that post. You should probably email him your
suggestion.

;-)

Thu, Jan 4, 2007, 11:38pm (EST-1)
(Dave*Balderstone) doth adviseth:
Robin,
Theo may not see that post. You should probably email him your
suggestion.

Rob. A ay or two ago that information would have been abslutely
correct. Since then however, I no longe eceive direct e-mail, instead I
reached an ageement with Dave Balderstone whereby he will be screen any
and all e-mail for me. he's a bit forgeful and slow to respond, anyone
with e-mail for me, be sure to send it to him at least half a dozen
times, so he will be sure to get it; he will then forward any pertinent
e-mail to me. Thanks Dave.

OK guys, I'm waiting to year from everyone on rec.woodworking. But
be sure to e-mail to Dave, so he can screen it. Thanks again Dave.



JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 02:39:00 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"Prometheus" wrote

Never read those, but I like rereading the Dune books from time to
time.

If you are a Frank Herbert fan, you should pick up a copy of The Dosadi
Experiment. I consider it to be his best work. Very different from his
other works. Complex and very interesting. Herbert was a thinker.

Will do- thanks for the suggestion!

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:38:34 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

If you can't find a suitable replacement battery for your Palm PDA
(I have no idea what the Hell that would be) you could always do like my
kids did in that situation. Get appropriate power battery(s), use wires
to connect to the appropriate power plug, and tape the battery to the
outside. You could even use a car battery that way. LMAO

Already tossed it- putting a plug or external battery on it would have
defeated the purpose. (Which was that it was a little computer with a
screen about the size of a pack of cigarettes that had a backlight for
using it in the dark and a hard cover that would fit in my pocket.
Took a little getting used to reading tiny little words on a lit-up
screen, but being able to carry a library in the pocket of my jeans
was worth the effort.)

Watching the Dune movie spoiled the books for me. The movie
probably would have been fine if I'd seen it first, but having read the
books, and getting images in my mind, the movie version just plain
sucked, big-time.

I'm assuming you mean the Lynch one from the 80's and yes, it did
suck. The Sci-Fi channel made a version of it a couple of years ago,
and that was much better, though extremely long.

"Prometheus" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 02:39:00 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"Prometheus" wrote

Never read those, but I like rereading the Dune books from time to
time.

If you are a Frank Herbert fan, you should pick up a copy of The Dosadi
Experiment. I consider it to be his best work. Very different from his
other works. Complex and very interesting. Herbert was a thinker.

Will do- thanks for the suggestion!


I should also mention that the main character (McKie) in The Dosadi
Experiment was introduced in a previous work called The Whipping Star.
Although an interesting book, it pales to a more epic The Dosadi Experiment.
Kind of a prequel.

But if you like The Dosadi Experiment, you will probably pick up a copy of
The Whipping Star to get the back story. It makes a few things clearer in
the subsequent work.