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Those of us who mock the conspiracy theorists are seen by the same
small minds as thinking the current system is perfect. Far be that
from the case. This article in the NYT does a pretty good job of
discussing concerns about economic data. It even includes a rational
discussion of how political pressures likely influence the data.

I'm sure there are those who will say that this article is pro-H-1B,
since it doesn't propose calculating the unemployment rate as the
number of people with Social Security numbers divided by the number of
people with jobs (or one of the other IB suggestions). But for those
who can read this article, it does a good job of identifying issues
that the intelligent reader needs to be aware of in using these
statistics. Those with limited cognitive ability will also find this
article interesting, since they will surely find one or two isolated
points that they can glom onto out of context.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/11/bu...l?pagewanted=1


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Alex
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"alexy" wrote in message
...
Those of us who mock the conspiracy theorists are seen by the same
small minds as thinking the current system is perfect. Far be that
from the case. This article in the NYT does a pretty good job of
discussing concerns about economic data. It even includes a rational
discussion of how political pressures likely influence the data.

And this relates to rec.woodworking how?
-- Ernie ("enquiring minds want to know")

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"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message:

And this relates to rec.woodworking how?
-- Ernie ("enquiring minds want to know")

Maybe he's wanting to start a "splinter" group?

Jim

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"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message:

And this relates to rec.woodworking how?
-- Ernie ("enquiring minds want to know")

Maybe he's wanting to start a "splinter" group?

That would go against my grain.
-- Ernie

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"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message:
That would go against my grain.

That shouldn't bother you as long as it wasn't your butt - then it would be
"end grain."

Jums (ouch - I know)

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"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message
...

"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message:

And this relates to rec.woodworking how?
-- Ernie ("enquiring minds want to know")

Maybe he's wanting to start a "splinter" group?

That would go against my grain.
-- Ernie


Stop it right now - I tell you that we're knot going to stand for this.

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"Steve" wrote in message:
Stop it right now - I tell you that we're knot going to stand for this.

Watch it bucko - the last guy that came in here raised the fir on the back
of my neck. He was found in his shop face down and resembled dark walnut.
Some say he dyed!

Jums

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:14:09 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:


"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message:

And this relates to rec.woodworking how?
-- Ernie ("enquiring minds want to know")

Maybe he's wanting to start a "splinter" group?

Jim



that would WHITTLE away at the very HEARTWOOD of our group

Traves

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"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

"Steve" wrote in message:
Stop it right now - I tell you that we're knot going to stand for
this.

Watch it bucko - the last guy that came in here raised the fir on the
back
of my neck. He was found in his shop face down and resembled dark
walnut.
Some say he dyed!

Jums


Nah, he just got a good shellacking. Watch it yourself bucko or you
might be in for a good ash kicking.

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Traves W. Coppock wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:14:09 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:


"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message:

And this relates to rec.woodworking how?
-- Ernie ("enquiring minds want to know")

Maybe he's wanting to start a "splinter" group?

Jim



that would WHITTLE away at the very HEARTWOOD of our group

Traves

While I apologized in another note for my misposting, seeing the good
humored responses made me glad that at least my mispost was to such a
punny group.
--
Alex
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"alexy" wrote in message
...
alexy wrote:

Those of us who mock the conspiracy theorists are seen by the same

Sorry, folks. Posted to the wrong group. Do I feel stupid, or what?
:-(

Don't you mean you feel you have "limited cognitive ability"?

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:18:57 -0400, alexy
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:

alexy wrote:

Those of us who mock the conspiracy theorists are seen by the same

Sorry, folks. Posted to the wrong group. Do I feel stupid, or what?
:-(

apology accepted, at least by me.
you know the DRILL, you have to buy pizza and beer for all in the
group. rules are rules, and they cannot be PLANER than they are

Traves

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"Traves W. Coppock" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:14:09 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:


"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message:

And this relates to rec.woodworking how?
-- Ernie ("enquiring minds want to know")

Maybe he's wanting to start a "splinter" group?

Jim



that would WHITTLE away at the very HEARTWOOD of our group

Oh, I'm sure some sap would appreciate it....
-- Ernie

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"Traves W. Coppock" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:18:57 -0400, alexy
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:

alexy wrote:

Those of us who mock the conspiracy theorists are seen by the same

Sorry, folks. Posted to the wrong group. Do I feel stupid, or what?
:-(

apology accepted, at least by me.
you know the DRILL, you have to buy pizza and beer for all in the
group. rules are rules, and they cannot be PLANER than they are


Some rules are straight, though, and some are folding. In the latter case it
hinges on the length of the rule. Rules will always cause divisions, as a
rule.
-- Ernie

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:39:40 GMT, "Ernie Jurick"
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:

snip

Oh, I'm sure some sap would appreciate it....
-- Ernie



oh man,,,i gotta sit back and admire this one. . .

admiration over, return to your previously scheduled thread.

Traves *G*

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"alexy" wrote in message:
While I apologized in another note for my misposting, seeing the good
humored responses made me glad that at least my mispost was to such a
punny group.

Hey - who axed you?

Jums

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"Traves W. Coppock" wrote in message:
apology accepted, at least by me.
you know the DRILL, you have to buy pizza and beer for all in the
group. rules are rules, and they cannot be PLANER than they are


Uh excuse me - rulers are rulers . . . (sheesh - I'm like a baggy pair of
boxers - always coverin' yer ass!)

I like the beer because it's less filling . . . . :-)

Jums

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:44:23 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:


"Traves W. Coppock" wrote in message:
apology accepted, at least by me.
you know the DRILL, you have to buy pizza and beer for all in the
group. rules are rules, and they cannot be PLANER than they are


Uh excuse me - rulers are rulers . . . (sheesh - I'm like a baggy pair of
boxers - always coverin' yer ass!)

I like the beer because it's less filling . . . . :-)

Jums



oh what the hell

Tastes great!!
and i like the easy opening cans!

Squarefinger

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:14:35 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
wrote:


"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
.com...

"Steve" wrote in message:
Stop it right now - I tell you that we're knot going to stand for this.

Watch it bucko - the last guy that came in here raised the fir on the back
of my neck. He was found in his shop face down and resembled dark walnut.
Some say he dyed!


Your bark is worse than your bite. Some would say you lack (s)pine.




now hold it right there a minuit! dont be a sap. we all know jummy
has never had a shortage of [s]pine!!! even though all of his x's
probly got equal amounts.

george

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:44:23 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


"Traves W. Coppock" wrote in message:
apology accepted, at least by me.
you know the DRILL, you have to buy pizza and beer for all in the
group. rules are rules, and they cannot be PLANER than they are


Uh excuse me - rulers are rulers . . . (sheesh - I'm like a baggy pair of
boxers - always coverin' yer ass!)

I like the beer because it's less filling . . . . :-)

Jums



tastes great! :-}

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wrote in message:
now hold it right there a minuit! dont be a sap. we all know jummy
has never had a shortage of [s]pine!!! even though all of his x's
probly got equal amounts.

It's amazing how I've had 3 ex's - each one got a cheek cut - and there were
only two at birth! LOL!

Jums

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:20:43 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


wrote in message:
now hold it right there a minuit! dont be a sap. we all know jummy
has never had a shortage of [s]pine!!! even though all of his x's
probly got equal amounts.

It's amazing how I've had 3 ex's - each one got a cheek cut - and there were
only two at birth! LOL!

Jums



nope not amazing just a man thing! we all got ex's and we all got
screwed. at least we got kissed once or twice before the screwin
started. if she's smiling while walkin down the isle RUN AS FAST AS
YER FEET CAN MUSTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if ya look back you'll just get
screwed again. george

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"Traves W. Coppock" wrote in message:
oh what the hell

Tastes great!!
and i like the easy opening cans!

I guess with squarefingers - you need all the help you can get! Reminds me
of the eulogy of the Pillsbury dough boy.

No one knew how badly he was kneaded until after he was gone. It was a
great service - Mrs. Butterworth lead the congregation in a song, Uncle Ben
delivered the message, it was catered by Chef Boyardee, and they all
gathered around at 3:50 for 30 minutes.

Oh God - why did I go there? :-)

Jums

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:29:30 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


"Traves W. Coppock" wrote in message:
oh what the hell

Tastes great!!
and i like the easy opening cans!

I guess with squarefingers - you need all the help you can get! Reminds me
of the eulogy of the Pillsbury dough boy.

No one knew how badly he was kneaded until after he was gone. It was a
great service - Mrs. Butterworth lead the congregation in a song, Uncle Ben
delivered the message, it was catered by Chef Boyardee, and they all
gathered around at 3:50 for 30 minutes.

Oh God - why did I go there? :-)

Jums


leave the doughboy outta this i'm married to his fat sister.
george

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wrote in message:
nope not amazing just a man thing! we all got ex's and we all got
screwed. at least we got kissed once or twice before the screwin
started. if she's smiling while walkin down the isle RUN AS FAST AS
YER FEET CAN MUSTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if ya look back you'll just get
screwed again.

There ought to be a federal fund that men who have been screwed over by a
spouse (and honest to God *didn't* deserve it) should be able to get monthly
payments from. And PLEEZE let's not make this a political thread!!!

The first thing my ex's attorney asked her was:

"Has he ever hit you?"
She was honest enough to tell her no . . . "he wasn't that kind of man."

"Did he ever threaten you?"
"No - I said he wasn't that kind of man."

"Did he keep the family funds out of your reach?"
"No - he gave me everything I ever wanted - a new car - new furniture - we
were about to buy a new house when I left."

"Why are you wanting a divorce?"
"I dunno . . . "

Go figure!

Jums

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wrote in message:
leave the doughboy outta this i'm married to his fat sister.

I heard she was under the weather . . . another "yeast" infection?

LAMOJ!

Jums

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wrote in message:

tastes great! :-}


Less filling - and bought by somebody else so it's free! Top that dog!

Jums
LOL!

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:41:59 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


wrote in message:
leave the doughboy outta this i'm married to his fat sister.

I heard she was under the weather . . . another "yeast" infection?

LAMOJ!

Jums



hehehehe at least it aint a bun in the oven! george

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:42:43 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


wrote in message:

tastes great! :-}


Less filling - and bought by somebody else so it's free! Top that dog!

Jums
LOL!


does it come in 13 packs?

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:59:23 GMT, "
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:41:59 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


wrote in message:
leave the doughboy outta this i'm married to his fat sister.

I heard she was under the weather . . . another "yeast" infection?

LAMOJ!

Jums



hehehehe at least it aint a bun in the oven! george

but it might be a zucinny!hmmmm......... spelling the other vegtable!
george

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"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

The first thing my ex's attorney asked her was:

"Has he ever hit you?"
She was honest enough to tell her no . . . "he wasn't that kind of man."
-----------
A farmer walked into an attorney's office wanting to file for divorce. The
attorney asked, "May I help you?"

The farmer said, "Yep. I wanna git me one of them dee-vorces."

The attorney asked, "Well, do you have any grounds?"

The farmer replied, "Yep. I got me about a hunnert forty acres o' good
bottom land."

The attorney said, "No, you don't understand. Do you have a case?"

The farmer said, "Nope, I don't got a Case, but I got me a nice John Deere."

The attorney said, "No you don't understand, I mean do you have a grudge?"

The farmer said, "Yep, I got a grudge. That's where I park my John Deere."

The attorney said, "No, sir, I mean do you have a suit?"

The farmer said, "Yes, sir, I got me a suit. I wear it to church on Sundays
and to funerals."

The exasperated attorney said, "Well, sir, does your wife beat you up or
anything?"

The farmer said, "No, sir, we both get up 'round about 4:30."

Finally, the attorney asked, "Okay, let me put it this way. WHY DO YOU WANT
A
DIVORCE?"

And the farmer replied, "Well, I can never have a meaningful conversation
with her!"

-- Ernie

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:39:23 GMT, "Ernie Jurick"
wrote:


That would go against my grain.
-- Ernie



I figured it wood.

Barry

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:02:44 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


wrote in message:
does it come in 13 packs?

Nope - then it would be a baker's dozen and we'd have to move this thread
over to the one with the Pillsbury dough boy. (stick with me here
Georgie - this crap's confusing enough as it is!) LOL!

Jums



lmao

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"Ernie Jurick" wrote in message
...

"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

The first thing my ex's attorney asked her was:

"Has he ever hit you?"
She was honest enough to tell her no . . . "he wasn't that kind of man."
-----------
A farmer walked into an attorney's office wanting to file for divorce. The
attorney asked, "May I help you?"

The farmer said, "Yep. I wanna git me one of them dee-vorces."

The attorney asked, "Well, do you have any grounds?"

The farmer replied, "Yep. I got me about a hunnert forty acres o' good
bottom land."

The attorney said, "No, you don't understand. Do you have a case?"

The farmer said, "Nope, I don't got a Case, but I got me a nice John
Deere."

The attorney said, "No you don't understand, I mean do you have a grudge?"

The farmer said, "Yep, I got a grudge. That's where I park my John Deere."

The attorney said, "No, sir, I mean do you have a suit?"

The farmer said, "Yes, sir, I got me a suit. I wear it to church on
Sundays
and to funerals."

The exasperated attorney said, "Well, sir, does your wife beat you up or
anything?"

The farmer said, "No, sir, we both get up 'round about 4:30."

Finally, the attorney asked, "Okay, let me put it this way. WHY DO YOU
WANT
A
DIVORCE?"

And the farmer replied, "Well, I can never have a meaningful conversation
with her!"

-- Ernie


Sorry, couldn'r resist!
Nahmie


A judge was interviewing a woman regarding her pending divorce, and asked,
"What are the grounds for your divorce?"

She replied, "About four acres and a nice little home in the middle of the
property with a stream running by."

"No," he said, "I mean what is the foundation of this case?"

"It is made of concrete, brick and mortar," she responded.

"I mean," he continued, "What are your relations like?"

"I have an aunt and uncle living here in town, and so do my husband's
parents."

He said, "Do you have a real grudge?"

"No," she replied, "We have a two-car carport and have never really needed
one."

"Please," he tried again, "is there any infidelity in your marriage?"

"Yes, both my son and daughter have stereo sets. We don't necessarily like
the music, but the answer to your questions is yes."

"Ma'am, does your husband ever beat you up?"

"Yes," she responded, "about twice a week he gets up earlier than I do."

Finally, in frustration, the judge asked, "Lady, why do you want a
divorce?"

"Oh, I don't want a divorce," she replied. "I've never wanted a divorce.

My husband does. He said he can't communicate with me."

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Fri, Jul 11, 2003, 2:02pm (alexy) squats and
dumps on us:
Those of us snip

This crap is posted on rec.woodworking, why?

JOAT
Let's just assume you don't know what the Hell you're talking about.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 25 Jun 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...All/page4.html

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In article , alexy
wrote:

This article in the NYT

Nuff said.

djb

--
"Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a
well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all, enjoy
free health care and 100 percent literacy." -- John Derbyshire

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Seems to me youse are playing soggy biscuit coz I wooden have a glue wotcha
ya on about!

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:02:44 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
wrote:


wrote in message:
does it come in 13 packs?

Nope - then it would be a baker's dozen and we'd have to move this thread
over to the one with the Pillsbury dough boy. (stick with me here
Georgie - this crap's confusing enough as it is!) LOL!

Jums



lmao

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:05:28 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:

Okay guys - I gotta home now. Well - I gotta go have a frosty beverage with
guys in the warehouse first - *then* I'll go home. It's been fun - ya'll
enjoy your weekend - be safe, etc.

Jums
P.S. If somebody hears Traves in the bathroom holler: "I'm through . . . .
." just ignore him. LOL!



*sniff* no one loves me but my dog...and i gotta bribe his ass with a
bone. . .

Traves "I'm through". . .

*G*

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:20:43 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara"
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:


wrote in message:
now hold it right there a minuit! dont be a sap. we all know jummy
has never had a shortage of [s]pine!!! even though all of his x's
probly got equal amounts.

It's amazing how I've had 3 ex's - each one got a cheek cut - and there were
only two at birth! LOL!

Jums




ROFL

Heard a comedian on the radio recently

"I hate divorce, so I'm never going to get married again. I'll just
find a woman i cant stand to be in the same room with, and give her a
house"

Traves

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Traves W. Coppock wrote:

apology accepted, at least by me.
you know the DRILL, you have to buy pizza and beer for all in the
group.
No problem. I'll call in the order now. Stop by the house between 6
and 6 tonight for all you can eat and drink.


--
Alex
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