The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular one.

Thanks,
Allen

Allen Roy wrote:
The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular one.

Thanks,
Allen

I'm a cheap *******. Can't see dropping a grand for either for those
wannabeacabinetsaws when a used Unisaw or Powermatic with a brand
spanking new biesemeyer fence can be had for anywhere between $750 and
$1,000. (buy saw without fence and buy new fence) But if the shiney
stuff turns you one then I'd get the Delta. Probably get better
re-sale value than the funky looking dewalt. This will be critical
when you decide that you can sell your used saw for a better used saw
and have a better used saw and not be out of pocket.

Of course, both are Black & Decker brands so replacement parts will be
equally unavailable.

A.M. Wood wrote:

I'm a cheap *******. Can't see dropping a grand for either for those
wannabeacabinetsaws when a used Unisaw or Powermatic with a brand
spanking new biesemeyer fence can be had for anywhere between $750 and
$1,000.

Not where I live they can't. There was nothing used of any quality
available for about 800 miles in any direction over the course of about
8 months.

9" Rockwell contractor saws, yes. Used cabinet saws no.

Chris

Allen Roy wrote:
The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular one.

Thanks,
Allen

Do to limited space I have the Dewalt- is perfect for my garage shop.
Go to Amazon for other's inputs- maybe try a search also. I installed a
table extension- plenty of power even w/ oak & ash (I do use a thin
kerf blade). I'd rather be woodworking than doing a rehab of
used/abused equip. Dewalt sells alot of these- it has been a popular
model. Table top & fence are excellent- plan on upgrading the miter (I
bought an Incra 1000se on sale). I put a Benchdog router table on the
left & replaced the crap steel wings w/ a cast iron wing on the right.
Of course it is mobile. Hope this helps...

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:03:43 GMT, "Allen Roy"
wrote:


The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular one.

I've had the opportunity to use the DW744S, and while it's a much
smaller saw than what you're looking at, it was a very nice tool with
some excellent features like the rack and pinion fence. Not having
seen the DW746X in person, I couldn't say if that level of quality and
engineering went into that as well, but I would feel very comfortable
buying one based on the amount of thoughtful engineering they put into
the lesser product's performance.

OTOH, the Delta outwieghs it by 80 pounds, and has a full cabinet.
Given a choice between the two, I'd go with that- but I certainly
wouldn't turn up my nose at the DeWalt. They're both good tools, and
either would be a nice addition to most peoples' shops.

Have you taken a look at the lower end Grizzly cabinet saws? They're
in the same price range as well, and are true cabinet saws rather than
hybrids- if that matters to you.

"Allen Roy" wrote:

The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new
dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the
Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as
I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this
particular one.
snip

Congratulations.

To paraphrase James Carvelle from the 1992 election, "It's the fence
stupid".

Jack up a Unifence and drive anything that wants to call itself a
table saw under it, and you will be happy.

Seriously, IMHO, the fence is the most important part of a saw, next
come the blades.

SFWIW, I have a Delta Contractor's saw with a Unifence for about 10 years.

The OEM motor was a piece of crap. Replaced it with a 2HP, 3,450RPM,
230V, standard motor. I'm a happy clam.

Lew

B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:43:09 -0600, Chris Friesen
wrote:

A.M. Wood wrote:

I'm a cheap *******. Can't see dropping a grand for either for those
wannabeacabinetsaws when a used Unisaw or Powermatic with a brand
spanking new biesemeyer fence can be had for anywhere between $750 and
$1,000.

Not where I live they can't. There was nothing used of any quality
available for about 800 miles in any direction over the course of about
8 months.

9" Rockwell contractor saws, yes. Used cabinet saws no.


Same here, with the exception of the occasional $800-1000 beat-to-crap
THREE PHASE Unisaw.

Before going new, I spent almost _three_ years looking for a good,
used Unisaw, General 350/650, PM, or even a Jet, within a 2-3 hour
drive of CT, in papers, on the web, and on eBay.

To further illustrate the point, the Jet contractor saw (low end
version, with Jet fence and stamped wings) that I bought new 5 years
earlier for $600, sold for _$500_ on the first day I listed it in the
Bargain News, a classified paper / web site that covers NY, CT, MA,
and RI. The guy picked it up the same day, and I got three more calls
about it while we loaded it. G

I know of folks in other locales who literally find old, working
condition machines at the dump, or for free, they just need to haul it
away! 8^(


I believe that has been your experience. However, I live near the
Southern CT border and my experience has been much different.

AM Wood

Allen Roy wrote:
The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular one.

Thanks,
Allen


FWIW, I bought the Delta back in May and have no regrets at all. Very
easy to set up. Good dust control, large table to work on. The T2 fence
has been great. I upgraded from a cheap Craftsman saw so I have not much
to compare to. The only thing is the price, mine cast me $602.00
delivered from Amazon, so if you're not in a hurry you may wait until it
goes on sale.

Good luck.

I have the 36-715 and have been very happy with it so far. Have not seen
the Dewalt to compare though.

-Steve


"Allen Roy" wrote in message
...

The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular
one.

Thanks,
Allen

B A R R Y wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 06:03:02 -0700, "A.M. Wood"
wrote:



I believe that has been your experience. However, I live near the
Southern CT border and my experience has been much different.


Where did you find the stuff?

I'd love for my experience to mirror yours!

No big secret. Ebay and Craig's List.

Delta Unisaw $350 had paint splattered on the cabinet and table top and
a poorly mounted motor switch. (no miter gauge, which cost ~$35
purchased separately)

Delta Wood/Metal bandsaw, cast-iron base just south of $400. (Was
missing the table insert which cost $10)

Delta 6" "long-bed" jointer, cast-iron base, magnetic motor starter &
new motor $400 (Saw one in this area go on e-bay for ~200 that was
missing a fence. (Most go for $300 I justified the extra c-note by
the base, motor & mag starter) (Two side notes: Guy had/has single
phase unisaw with mag starter up for sale at roughly $500 Bought
another for $350 with the newer enclosed base & probably paid too much
but can part out and be fine.)

(Note those CI bases are difficult to find and worth around $150-$200
or more all by themselves.)

All single phase. None needed more than a cleaning & tune-up, but I
restored (stripped, painted and bearings) for my own sake.

AM Wood

Prometheus wrote:

I've had the opportunity to use the DW744S, and while it's a much
smaller saw than what you're looking at, it was a very nice tool with
some excellent features like the rack and pinion fence.

I've got a very small shop (11x13) and with the addition of the new Rikon
bandsaw it's really overcrowded. I'm seriously considering going for a
smaller tablesaw and have looked at the 744. Are there any "gotchas" I
should know about?

Yes, I know the little Bosch comes in ahead of it in all the reviews, but
second in a large field isn't bad. And I can get a reconditioned DeWalt for
a lot less than the Bosch.

OTOH, if the Rikon performs the way the reviews say it can, I might not even
need a tablesaw :-).

--
It's turtles, all the way down

Before going new, I spent almost _three_ years looking for a good,
used Unisaw, General 350/650, PM, or even a Jet, within a 2-3 hour
drive of CT, in papers, on the web, and on eBay.

And if you look on craigslist under "Tools" in CT and Western MA, what you
find mostly is lawn and garden equipment.

Lee


--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"

_________________________________
Lee Gordon
http://www.leegordonproductions.com

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:34:56 -0700, Larry Blanchard
wrote:

Prometheus wrote:

I've had the opportunity to use the DW744S, and while it's a much
smaller saw than what you're looking at, it was a very nice tool with
some excellent features like the rack and pinion fence.

I've got a very small shop (11x13) and with the addition of the new Rikon
bandsaw it's really overcrowded. I'm seriously considering going for a
smaller tablesaw and have looked at the 744. Are there any "gotchas" I
should know about?

Not that I'm aware of. It is a plastic cabinet, like most DeWalt
stuff- but there's plastic, and then there's DeWalt plastic. Don't
know what they do to the stuff, but I've never broken any of it on my
jobsite tools.

The five truly nice features a

- It has a rack and pinion fence that doesn't drift- a big improvement
over the other small saws I've used. Not only did it stay square on
every cut for the couple of days I used it, but it was easy to adjust
with the little knob- almost, but not quite, micro-adjustable.

- The top is coated with something like teflon, that doesn't rust and
allows the work to slide like a freshly waxed table. I talked with a
few others who had owned one, and they said it does hold up to heavy
jobsite use and fairly severe abuse (like falling off the tailgate of
the work truck) over a long period of time. With care, I'm sure it's
nearly bulletproof.

- Enough rip capacity to cut a 4'x8' piece of plywood in half (the
long way).

- There are extensions for side and outfeed support that actually
work, and slide into the base when not in use

-The folding stand is easy to set up, and is sturdy enough.

You can't expect a Unisaw if you get one, but they are good for more
than just goofing around with. My test of the thing was panelling a
cabin- two full days of ripping 4'x8' cedar panelling without a
helper, with several bevel boards and rips for nailers in construction
lumber for another small project on the same place. Didn't even grunt
ripping 2x pressure-treated stuff, so it seemed to have plenty of
power. Granted, that won't tell you how it performs in 8/4 hard
maple, but it was doing a job that most of the other smaller table
saws couldn't do in a week of Sundays.

It was so suprisingly easy to use, that I almost got it instead of my
Delta contractor's saw. But since I had the space, and don't have to
move it, I went with the heavier machine.

Yes, I know the little Bosch comes in ahead of it in all the reviews, but
second in a large field isn't bad. And I can get a reconditioned DeWalt for
a lot less than the Bosch.

Not bad at all- I haven't used the Bosch, but IIRC, it had a lot
smaller cutting capacity, and the stand was sold seperately. Either
one would be great if you have to store it out of the way after use-
far better than the other benchtops that are the same size, albeit far
less expensive.

OTOH, if the Rikon performs the way the reviews say it can, I might not even
need a tablesaw :-).

Well, keep your fingers crossed, and let us know how that works out
for you.

On Oct 28, 9:21 am, "Steve W" wrote:
I have the 36-715 and have been very happy with it so far. Have not seen
the Dewalt to compare though.

-Steve

"Allen Roy" wrote in . com...





The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular
one.

Thanks,
Allen- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -




Good Luck finding a used Table saw of good quality. I have been in the
tool business for over 25 years and I can count on one hand the number
of good used fair priced tablesaws I have seen for sale. I have sold
new and used equipment and rarely did I get a chance to buy or take in
trade a good tablesaw. Used tablesaws are like storys that "my
neighbors brother-in-law's second cousin works with a guy who knows a
guy that has a tablesaw for sale". Good luck.

mike wrote:

Good Luck finding a used Table saw of good quality. I have been in the
tool business for over 25 years and I can count on one hand the number
of good used fair priced tablesaws I have seen for sale. I have sold
new and used equipment and rarely did I get a chance to buy or take in
trade a good tablesaw. Used tablesaws are like storys that "my
neighbors brother-in-law's second cousin works with a guy who knows a
guy that has a tablesaw for sale". Good luck.

Ever hear of the internet? Folks advertise stuff for sall all the
time. Some outrageously over priced. Some at bargain basement prices
and some fairly priced. Overall, millions of things being sold every
day.

But out of all of that, less than 5 (assuming and hoping your hand has
all 5 digits) were fairly priced table saws.

That's just really really really hard to believe.

AM Wood

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:00:25 GMT, Lew Hodgett
wrote:



Jack up a Unifence and drive anything that wants to call itself a
table saw under it, and you will be happy.

Seriously, IMHO, the fence is the most important part of a saw, next
come the blades.


I strongly agree with this statement. Up until last week, I had a
Craftsman contractors saw. Lots of modifications. But the single
modification that kept me from tossing it out as being inaccurate and
underpowered was a Biesemeyer fence. That made the saw very accurate.
Well that and the fact that it held it's alignment.

The fence is the single most important feature on any table saw.

There's plenty of good fences out there. There's even more bad ones.

People seem to be happy with their Unifences and Vegas, I can say with
certainty that the Biesemeyer fence is also top notch.

I also have the Delta Hybrid saw, except I have the 36-317 and got the 50"
table and Biesemeyer to go with it the only issue I have had with it was that
I was missing one of the bolts to hold the Biesemeyer rails to the saw. Called
Delta and they sent me a couple extra. I upgraded from the lowest possible
saw out there...the Delta 10 bench saw on a stand...big difference. The saw
was easy to setup and cuts a heck of a lot better than the previous one. The
only problem you may run into is if you try to find a mobile base for it.
Delta used to make on that would fit it but have discontinued it. I had to go
to Woodcraft and get their universal mobile base and a sheet of plywood...works
great.

Karl



Allen Roy wrote:

The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular one.

Thanks,
Allen

The Delta 50-941 I got for mine fits fine too.

-Steve


"Karl" wrote in message
...
I also have the Delta Hybrid saw, except I have the 36-317 and got the 50"
table and Biesemeyer to go with it the only issue I have had with it was
that
I was missing one of the bolts to hold the Biesemeyer rails to the saw.
Called
Delta and they sent me a couple extra. I upgraded from the lowest
possible
saw out there...the Delta 10 bench saw on a stand...big difference. The
saw
was easy to setup and cuts a heck of a lot better than the previous one.
The
only problem you may run into is if you try to find a mobile base for it.
Delta used to make on that would fit it but have discontinued it. I had
to go
to Woodcraft and get their universal mobile base and a sheet of
plywood...works
great.

Karl



Allen Roy wrote:

The wife says I can finally buy a new table saw (cough,cough, new
dining
room set,cough,cough) and have it down to 2. I am looking at the Dewalt
DW746X or the Delta 36-715. I would like some input from people as I am
leaning toward the Dewalt but have heard minimal about this particular
one.

Thanks,
Allen

I don't recommend Ebay, but at the moment, there are at
least 8-9 Unisaws of various conditions for sale.

Will you find one in your city ??? Maybe
Will you find one being "given away" ??? Nope
Will you find a fair deal that can be restored ??? Eventually

I bought a Delta 34-350 12/14 saw for $175 at a school
auction. It was single phase and started the moment I
plugged it in. I spent just over $600 completely
restoring it.

Delta sells thousands of Unisaws every single year. Do you
think they are all in production at the moment ???



mike wrote:

Good Luck finding a used Table saw of good quality. I have been in the
tool business for over 25 years and I can count on one hand the number
of good used fair priced tablesaws I have seen for sale.