Somebody wrote to me this past week about the difference between
AutoCad and TurboCad.

The difference is about $2400.00.

I learned CAD on TurboCad and still use it when I have to draw
quickly.

The only reason that I use AutoCad or AD Inventor is because we use it
at work and Autodesk is coin of the realm in a business setting.

I can still draw quicker in TurboCad for 2D stuff but have to confess
that AD Inventor is faster for 3D stuff. Not $5000.00 worth but still
faster.

If you want to learn 2D CAD for personal use, TurboCad is the way to
go, for my money but, if you want to learn CAD with an eye towards a
career in mind, AutoCad is the right choice because everyone uses it.

TurboCad has a better newsgroup community than AutoCad, in my opinion.
I've never seen a better community forum environment than theirs.

If you have any more questions, ask CW.

He's been a TC champ for years, and is knowledgeable about the most
current version, while I only know up to Pro V5.

Hope that I answered your question. Whoever you were.

Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

"Tom Watson" wrote in message
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Somebody wrote to me this past week about the difference between
AutoCad and TurboCad.

The difference is about $2400.00.

I learned CAD on TurboCad and still use it when I have to draw
quickly.

The only reason that I use AutoCad or AD Inventor is because we use it
at work and Autodesk is coin of the realm in a business setting.

I can still draw quicker in TurboCad for 2D stuff but have to confess
that AD Inventor is faster for 3D stuff. Not $5000.00 worth but still
faster.

If you want to learn 2D CAD for personal use, TurboCad is the way to
go, for my money but, if you want to learn CAD with an eye towards a
career in mind, AutoCad is the right choice because everyone uses it.

TurboCad has a better newsgroup community than AutoCad, in my opinion.
I've never seen a better community forum environment than theirs.

If you have any more questions, ask CW.

He's been a TC champ for years, and is knowledgeable about the most
current version, while I only know up to Pro V5.

Hope that I answered your question. Whoever you were.

Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

I purchased turbocad from Office Depot last week -- when I opened the
package and tried to load it, I discovered the serial number on the TC
envelope wasn't accepted by the software. The envelope had a 10 digit
serial number, and the program needed a 16 digit serial number and there
were no other serial numbers in the documentation. I e-mailed Turbocad, and
they never responded. I returned the package to Office Depot and the clerk
said they had a lot of returns of this item. The next day I saw the package
I'd bought was back on the shelf, containing the already opened software.

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message
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Somebody wrote to me this past week about the difference between
AutoCad and TurboCad.

The difference is about $2400.00.

I learned CAD on TurboCad and still use it when I have to draw
quickly.


A very good and almost a perfect clone to AutoCAD is IntelliCAD. I have
seen IntelliCAD range in price from about $50 to $100. IMHO AutoCAD LT was
much easier to learn than TurboCAD. I purchased my last copy of TurboCad
about 18 years ago. I have been using AutoCAD for about 10 years and will
probably switch to InetlliCAD when I upgrade again.

Thanks again CW.

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message
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Somebody wrote to me this past week about the difference between
AutoCad and TurboCad.

The difference is about $2400.00.

I learned CAD on TurboCad and still use it when I have to draw
quickly.


A very good and almost a perfect clone to AutoCAD is IntelliCAD. I have
seen IntelliCAD range in price from about $50 to $100. IMHO AutoCAD LT
was
much easier to learn than TurboCAD. I purchased my last copy of TurboCad
about 18 years ago. I have been using AutoCAD for about 10 years and will
probably switch to InetlliCAD when I upgrade again.

Thanks again CW.


I can't comment on IntelliCAD - it sounds like a good value. But you can't
determine anything about current versions of TurboCad based on the TurboCad
of 18 years ago - they have nothing to do with each other. I use the current
TurboCad for many projects, from my own woodworking to CNC machined
precision camera parts. I find TurboCad easy and convenient.

Tim

"Ellestad" wrote in message
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A very good and almost a perfect clone to AutoCAD is IntelliCAD. I have
seen IntelliCAD range in price from about $50 to $100. IMHO AutoCAD LT
was
much easier to learn than TurboCAD. I purchased my last copy of TurboCad
about 18 years ago. I have been using AutoCAD for about 10 years and
will
probably switch to InetlliCAD when I upgrade again.

Thanks again CW.


I can't comment on IntelliCAD - it sounds like a good value. But you can't
determine anything about current versions of TurboCad based on the
TurboCad
of 18 years ago - they have nothing to do with each other.

True

I use the current
TurboCad for many projects, from my own woodworking to CNC machined
precision camera parts. I find TurboCad easy and convenient.

Good. Have you used AutoCAD or any other CAD programs?

Leon wrote:
"Ellestad" wrote in message
...

A very good and almost a perfect clone to AutoCAD is IntelliCAD. I have
seen IntelliCAD range in price from about $50 to $100. IMHO AutoCAD LT
was
much easier to learn than TurboCAD. I purchased my last copy of TurboCad
about 18 years ago. I have been using AutoCAD for about 10 years and
will
probably switch to InetlliCAD when I upgrade again.

Thanks again CW.


I can't comment on IntelliCAD - it sounds like a good value. But you can't
determine anything about current versions of TurboCad based on the
TurboCad
of 18 years ago - they have nothing to do with each other.

True

I use the current
TurboCad for many projects, from my own woodworking to CNC machined
precision camera parts. I find TurboCad easy and convenient.

Good. Have you used AutoCAD or any other CAD programs?

I've used AutoCAD for just over 20 years including about two years of
Mechanical Desktop and another year of Inventor. After that long on
any program you can literally draw about as fast as you can think. All
three of these products are IMHO well worth the money for even the most
basic of buisness enviornments but at several thousand dollars there is
no way I could justify purchasing it at home for my hobby generating
sawdust. I believe even LT has gone out the price range of most. If
anyone is seriously considering a personal AutoCAD purchase look into
taking a class at a local community college. I think there is a pretty
substantial student discount that would probably pay for the class and
more.

Yes, there is. Autodesk has fixed that workaround. The academic version
prints with a banner and it expires in two years, non renewable.
BTW, last I looked, it was about $200.00.
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I think there is a pretty
substantial student discount that would probably pay for the class and
more.

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I've used AutoCAD for just over 20 years including about two years of
Mechanical Desktop and another year of Inventor. After that long on
any program you can literally draw about as fast as you can think. All
three of these products are IMHO well worth the money for even the most
basic of buisness enviornments but at several thousand dollars there is
no way I could justify purchasing it at home for my hobby generating
sawdust. I believe even LT has gone out the price range of most. If
anyone is seriously considering a personal AutoCAD purchase look into
taking a class at a local community college. I think there is a pretty
substantial student discount that would probably pay for the class and
more.


I first upgraded to LT about 10 years ago and the cost was $199 IIRC but
that has gone up dramatically in the last couple of years. My son can get
the student version of LT at his University for about $125, IIRC.
As with any CAD program a good understanding of how to draw is a very
helpful prerequisite.

Tom Watson wrote:
Somebody wrote to me this past week about the difference between
AutoCad and TurboCad.

The difference is about $2400.00.

I learned CAD on TurboCad and still use it when I have to draw
quickly.

The only reason that I use AutoCad or AD Inventor is because we use it
at work and Autodesk is coin of the realm in a business setting.

I can still draw quicker in TurboCad for 2D stuff but have to confess
that AD Inventor is faster for 3D stuff. Not $5000.00 worth but still
faster.

If you want to learn 2D CAD for personal use, TurboCad is the way to
go, for my money but, if you want to learn CAD with an eye towards a
career in mind, AutoCad is the right choice because everyone uses it.

TurboCad has a better newsgroup community than AutoCad, in my opinion.
I've never seen a better community forum environment than theirs.

If you have any more questions, ask CW.

He's been a TC champ for years, and is knowledgeable about the most
current version, while I only know up to Pro V5.

Hope that I answered your question. Whoever you were.

Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

Nothing can beat this for 3d architechture and modelling.
http://www.chiefarchitect.com/products/

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message
...
Somebody wrote to me this past week about the difference between
AutoCad and TurboCad.

The difference is about $2400.00.

I learned CAD on TurboCad and still use it when I have to draw
quickly.

The only reason that I use AutoCad or AD Inventor is because we use it
at work and Autodesk is coin of the realm in a business setting.

I can still draw quicker in TurboCad for 2D stuff but have to confess
that AD Inventor is faster for 3D stuff. Not $5000.00 worth but still
faster.

If you want to learn 2D CAD for personal use, TurboCad is the way to
go, for my money but, if you want to learn CAD with an eye towards a
career in mind, AutoCad is the right choice because everyone uses it.

TurboCad has a better newsgroup community than AutoCad, in my opinion.
I've never seen a better community forum environment than theirs.

If you have any more questions, ask CW.

He's been a TC champ for years, and is knowledgeable about the most
current version, while I only know up to Pro V5.

Hope that I answered your question. Whoever you were.

Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

Undoubtedly version 12 Deluxe. Look around the net for version 11. Version
12 has more bugs than an industrial size can of Raid could deal with. The
company changed hands about the time of the 12 release and they didn't seem
to care about making it usable. Version 11 will work for you.

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I purchased turbocad from Office Depot last week -- when I opened the
package and tried to load it, I discovered the serial number on the TC
envelope wasn't accepted by the software. The envelope had a 10 digit
serial number, and the program needed a 16 digit serial number and there
were no other serial numbers in the documentation. I e-mailed Turbocad,
and
they never responded. I returned the package to Office Depot and the
clerk
said they had a lot of returns of this item. The next day I saw the
package
I'd bought was back on the shelf, containing the already opened software.