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Tip of the day
When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome |
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And how do you know this? :) :)
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome We are the only country in the world (except Albania?) that might have this problem. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome 7/16, 11/16...WHATEVER! What you were making probably didn't need to be accurate to within 1/4" anyway, right? ;-) todd |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome Cut it three times and it's still too short? |
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Edwin Pawlowski (in ) said:
| Tip of the day | | When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little | line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. That was yesterday's tip! You're a day late and a quarter short! | You're welcome No problem - place the two cut edges together and paint with white out, reverse the DC and saw motors and feed the pieces through backwards while sprinkling fresh toad dust over the whole thing. It may help if you intone "rabuf" in a singsong voice throughout the uncutting. Hmm. Now I'm welgone... -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:03:27 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome What little line? My table saw fence doesn't have any little lines. In fact it doesn't have any lines at all. |
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Experience is defined as:
"What you get when you don't get what you want." -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. Just use cheaper wood, then it won't ever happen. As an aside, and on the same theme ... today I batch cut all the frame chair parts for six chairs (about $300 worth of QSWO), you see below without once using a tape measure or ruler of any type: http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Chairparts.JPG The saws were all setup with "story stick" parts from the prototype chair saved specifically to use for machine setup so that there would be no measuring errors in either dimension or angles. .... the only way I can get around the fact that I am a dummy with a tape measure more often than not. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 8/29/06 |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome Doh! Measure twice .... You know the rest! BTDT Dave |
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"CW" wrote in message nk.net... And how do you know this? :) :) It was a guy that lives on my street. |
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Or you could measure 1 1/2" plus three of the little ones.
Walt Cheever "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:32:15 GMT, "Toller" wrote:
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message .. . Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome We are the only country in the world (except Albania?) that might have this problem. Maybe in terms of fractions, but I suspect an equivalent screw-up can occur by picking the wrong division between two numbers in any measurement system being employed. BTW, I discovered that my my Freud tablesaw blade is capable of milling soft steel this weekend. Hint: When making shallow cuts using a tennoning jig, make sure that your tennoning jig has a sacrificial spacer if your tennoning cut will be less than 1/8" (3.1 mm). I now have a nice 1 1/2" radius arc on the face plate of mine. It took a moment for me to realize a) the cut was getting awfully hard and b) I was getting sparks from my 8/4 cherry piece After the initial, "what the ...?" and questioning my lineage and intelligence, a quick check of the blade and pieces indicated that, with the exception of my now 1/4-mooned jig face, all equipment and project pieces were fine. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message . .. "CW" wrote in message nk.net... And how do you know this? :) :) It was a guy that lives on my street. |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 03:39:36 GMT, "Walt Cheever"
wrote: Or you could measure 1 1/2" plus three of the little ones. I thought I was the only one who did that. The only problem is if you measure one in 32nds and then the next in 16ths... Another important thing to keep in mind is that the first number you come across on your ruler ought to be a 1, not a 12. If you start from the other end 6 plus 3 little ones is actually 6 minus 3 little ones. -Leuf |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote: Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome NEVAR EVAR happened to me. Nope.. it's my story and I'm sticking to it. I always use c-hairs, smidgens and tiches. 14 c-hairs to a tich, 12 tiches to a smidgen..geezz.. thought you knew that. Using that system, you get to know that 1-11/16 doesn't even exist. r |
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"Toller" wrote in message
... "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome We are the only country in the world (except Albania?) that might have this problem. No kidding.... Don't know how much time I've wasted counting marks to make sure I was getting the right measurement from the tape ("... okay, half, fourth, eight, sixteenth... okay, sixteenths... and 3 of them less than 3/4... ") Maybe I'll just buy a metric tape. But then there's the tablesaw fence.... |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:03:27 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote: Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome Long story (probably boring) but I spent a good number of years working in Asia. It kind of pushed me to understand and use metric. After coming home I never went back to Am Std for most measurements. As you guys probably know, it is a much more practical system. |
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"Joe Bemier" wrote in message Long story (probably boring) but I spent a good number of years working in Asia. It kind of pushed me to understand and use metric. After coming home I never went back to Am Std for most measurements. As you guys probably know, it is a much more practical system. in 1970 (when the US was supposed to change) if you asked me about the metric system, I would have told you the rest of the world should change to our system. Why not, I already know it. Fast forward to 1990. I go to work for a company that has machines and tools made in Austria. Gauges read in bars, not pounds. All hardware is in MM. Now, ask me the same question. Yes, we should change today. Metric, like our money system, is just plain easier, can be more accurate and faster to work with. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in
news:YZTNg.1126$SQ1.201@trndny09: in 1970 (when the US was supposed to change) if you asked me about the metric system, I would have told you the rest of the world should change to our system. Why not, I already know it. *snip* Now, ask me the same question. Yes, we should change today. Metric, like our money system, is just plain easier, can be more accurate and faster to work with. My big request is simply to measure things in American or Metric, and stick with one system. Don't make me waste time with stupid unit conversions because you were too lazy to measure from the same side of the ruler. Puckdropper -- Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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Over half of our machine tools (at my place of work) are Japanese. All our
machines are graduated in imperial measure. The only advantage (besides being like everyone else) of the metric system is that it is easier to learn. I don't know what you are trying to say with the money reference. "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message news:YZTNg.1126$SQ1.201@trndny09... Fast forward to 1990. I go to work for a company that has machines and tools made in Austria. Gauges read in bars, not pounds. All hardware is in MM. Now, ask me the same question. Yes, we should change today. Metric, like our money system, is just plain easier, can be more accurate and faster to work with. |
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Toller wrote: "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... Tip of the day When setting the tablesaw fence to 1 11/16", use the first little line before 1 3/4" Don't use the line just before 1 1/2. You're welcome We are the only country in the world (except Albania?) that might have this problem. Some call this a problem, I call it Natural Selection. Only the smartest and fittest survive to perpetuate beautiful wood reproductions. And that's a good thing. :-) Mark |
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Lot easier to learn but, other than that, just different.
"Joe Bemier" wrote in message ... Long story (probably boring) but I spent a good number of years working in Asia. It kind of pushed me to understand and use metric. After coming home I never went back to Am Std for most measurements. As you guys probably know, it is a much more practical system. |
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"CW" wrote in message ink.net... I don't know what you are trying to say with the money reference. CM, MM, Meter. Penny, dime, dollar, ten dollar, hundred . . . . you get the ideal. Easier to think in multiples of ten than 32nds and 64ths. |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"CW" wrote in message ink.net... I don't know what you are trying to say with the money reference. CM, MM, Meter. Penny, dime, dollar, ten dollar, hundred . . . . you get the ideal. Easier to think in multiples of ten than 32nds and 64ths. Yes, let's fix this weird time thing we use now, too. 60 seconds to a minute, 60 minutes to an hour, then 24 hours to a day that make varied length months. Digitalize time and mess up everyone:-) Joe |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Joe Bemier" wrote in message Long story (probably boring) but I spent a good number of years working in Asia. It kind of pushed me to understand and use metric. After coming home I never went back to Am Std for most measurements. As you guys probably know, it is a much more practical system. in 1970 (when the US was supposed to change) if you asked me about the metric system, I would have told you the rest of the world should change to our system. Why not, I already know it. Fast forward to 1990. I go to work for a company that has machines and tools made in Austria. Gauges read in bars, not pounds. All hardware is in MM. Now, ask me the same question. Yes, we should change today. Metric, like our money system, is just plain easier, can be more accurate and faster to work with. The thing about metric(UK has been metric for some years)is you can get ripped of at the lumber yard when buying wood,for instance... If you wanted to buy a 4' lenght of any particular wood you have to buy 2metres to get that 4' lenght resulting in whats left as waste. -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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CW wrote: Lot easier to learn but, other than that, just different. "Joe Bemier" wrote in message ... Long story (probably boring) but I spent a good number of years working in Asia. It kind of pushed me to understand and use metric. After coming home I never went back to Am Std for most measurements. As you guys probably know, it is a much more practical system. I converted all my tools to British Standard Whitworth... -jtpr |
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Mark & Juanita :
BTW, I discovered that my my Freud tablesaw blade is capable of milling soft steel this weekend. Hint: When making shallow cuts using a tennoning My trailer has a slot cut into one side. It most certainly did not happen when I was using it as a "workbench" for cutting up some plywood. BTW, did you know that the stock blade on a DeWalt circle saw can cut galvanized steel with hardly any trouble? At least mine can... /Par -- Par How do I set my laser printer on stun? |
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"Par" wrote in message ... My trailer has a slot cut into one side. It most certainly did not happen when I was using it as a "workbench" for cutting up some plywood. BTW, did you know that the stock blade on a DeWalt circle saw can cut galvanized steel with hardly any trouble? At least mine can... It does a great job cutting through its own power cord, too. DAMHIKT. |
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The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
snip Now, ask me the same question. Yes, we should change today. Metric, like our money system, is just plain easier, can be more accurate and faster to work with. The thing about metric(UK has been metric for some years)is you can get ripped of at the lumber yard when buying wood,for instance... If you wanted to buy a 4' lenght of any particular wood you have to buy 2metres to get that 4' lenght resulting in whats left as waste. Australia has had the metric system for quite awhile mow. Money changed from Pounds and Pence to Dollars and Cents in 1966. I still remember all the adults complaining and winging about getting ripped of and Mum converting everything back to Pounds to see what the REAL price was. I was only a young bloke and was more interested in the fancy notes and coins ;). After a few years complaints died away. We changed to metric measurements about 34 years ago. I was doing my apprenticeship at the time and Trade Calc suddenly became a lot easier. Timber is sold in lengths of 1.2 = 4' 2.4 = 8' 3.00 = 10' 3.6 = 12' etc. or near enough. These sizes have now become standards and present no problems. regards John |
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I use imperial measurements all day every day. Not a 16th of 64th among
them. Might see a .0625 or a .03125. Most of the engineering professions quit using common fractions many years ago in favor of decimal fractions. Far more precise and much easier to work with. The only advantage the metric system has over this is that the base units are easier to learn. For those of us that have already learned it, there is no advantage. "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message .. . "CW" wrote in message ink.net... I don't know what you are trying to say with the money reference. CM, MM, Meter. Penny, dime, dollar, ten dollar, hundred . . . . you get the ideal. Easier to think in multiples of ten than 32nds and 64ths. |
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"gw" wrote in message ... "Par" wrote in message ... My trailer has a slot cut into one side. It most certainly did not happen when I was using it as a "workbench" for cutting up some plywood. BTW, did you know that the stock blade on a DeWalt circle saw can cut galvanized steel with hardly any trouble? At least mine can... It does a great job cutting through its own power cord, too. DAMHIKT. :-) Makita... 8" or whatever the next size up from 7 1/4" is. Brand new....... first cut..... 14" power cord just that quick. LOL |
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The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
: The thing about metric(UK has been metric for some years)is you can get : ripped of at the lumber yard when buying wood,for instance... : If you wanted to buy a 4' lenght of any particular wood you have to buy : 2metres to get that 4' lenght resulting in whats left as waste. : -- : Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite IIRC, plywood in Europe comes in sheets of 122 x 244 centimeters. Nice round numbers, those (very close to four by eight feet). The units in Imperial are more ergonomic than those in metric. -- Andy Barss |
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Andrew Barss wrote in news:eei606$c8u$1
@onion.ccit.arizona.edu: IIRC, plywood in Europe comes in sheets of 122 x 244 centimeters. Nice round numbers, those (very close to four by eight feet). The units in Imperial are more ergonomic than those in metric. -- Andy Barss That's one of the problems with metric. There's no analogue to the foot. I look around me, and I see all kinds of things that are a just a few inches shorter or longer than a foot. If they had made the centimeter twice as long, then a dekameter (10 cm) would mean something. Now it's one of those unneeded units that no one uses. Puckdropper -- Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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Puckdropper wrote: That's one of the problems with metric. There's no analogue to the foot. I look around me, and I see all kinds of things that are a just a few inches shorter or longer than a foot. If they had made the centimeter twice as long, then a dekameter (10 cm) would mean something. Now it's one of those unneeded units that no one uses. Puckdropper I don't think you're looking very carefully. In less than a minute, I'm able to find 3 common items that are within 1 or 2 cm of a dekameter: coffee mugs, CD's, business cards. However, whenever I hear about the "convenience" of a base-10 system, I'm reminded of the time my mother went to a fabric store in Denmark (we're American), and asked for 1.5 meters of fabric. The clerk asked her how much that is in centimeters, because her tape measure was in cm and she didn't know how to convert! Mark |
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"redbelly" wrote in
ups.com: Puckdropper wrote: That's one of the problems with metric. There's no analogue to the foot. I look around me, and I see all kinds of things that are a just a few inches shorter or longer than a foot. If they had made the centimeter twice as long, then a dekameter (10 cm) would mean something. Now it's one of those unneeded units that no one uses. Puckdropper I don't think you're looking very carefully. In less than a minute, I'm able to find 3 common items that are within 1 or 2 cm of a dekameter: coffee mugs, CD's, business cards. Let me try to explain the arguement a little better: The dekameter is a unit that's too small of a difference to mess with. Sure, there's all kinds of things that's close to a dekameter, but you'd spend too much time wondering "dekameter" or "centimeter" when eyeball-measuring something. However, whenever I hear about the "convenience" of a base-10 system, I'm reminded of the time my mother went to a fabric store in Denmark (we're American), and asked for 1.5 meters of fabric. The clerk asked her how much that is in centimeters, because her tape measure was in cm and she didn't know how to convert! The question becomes "Is it 10, 100, or 1000?" I screwed up a Physics Lab calculation last week and was off by a factor of 10. Luckily, it didn't screw everything up... Mark Puckdropper -- Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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Puckdropper wrote: Let me try to explain the arguement a little better: The dekameter is a unit that's too small of a difference to mess with. Sure, there's all kinds of things that's close to a dekameter, but you'd spend too much time wondering "dekameter" or "centimeter" when eyeball-measuring something. That sounds plausible. But I don't think people who use the metric system bother with dekameters very much anyway. Mark |
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