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708 Gage for railroad wheels, used by my dad as a car inspector.
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708 Gage for railroad wheels, used by my dad as a car inspector.

Do you know what the various parts of the gage measured? Was his a
Pratt & Whitney?

The name made me imagine the four gaps were to check diameters or
thicknesses in overhauling or building an airplane engine.
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sawney beane wrote:
Howard R Garner wrote:
R.H. wrote:
Another set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


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708 Gage for railroad wheels, used by my dad as a car inspector.

Do you know what the various parts of the gage measured? Was his a
Pratt & Whitney?

The name made me imagine the four gaps were to check diameters or
thicknesses in overhauling or building an airplane engine.


I was also thinking engines. I think 708 is a go/no-go gauge for
checking tubing diameter either bent or 'blended' with a file.

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sawney beane wrote:
Howard R Garner wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Another set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


708 Gage for railroad wheels, used by my dad as a car inspector.


Do you know what the various parts of the gage measured? Was his a
Pratt & Whitney?

Photo and instructions have been posted.

www.cwrail.com/wheelgage.jpg
www.cwrail.com/wheelgage1.jpg
www.cwrail.com/wheelgage2.jpg
www.cwrail.com/wheelgage3.jpg




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Howard R Garner wrote:
sawney beane wrote:
Howard R Garner wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Another set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


708 Gage for railroad wheels, used by my dad as a car inspector.


Do you know what the various parts of the gage measured? Was his a
Pratt & Whitney?

Photo and instructions have been posted.

www.cwrail.com/wheelgage.jpg
www.cwrail.com/wheelgage1.jpg
www.cwrail.com/wheelgage2.jpg
www.cwrail.com/wheelgage3.jpg


Thank you! To a curious reader, those pictures were like four big
slices of cake, hot from the oven.
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sawney beane wrote:

Howard R Garner wrote:
R.H. wrote:
Another set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


708 Gage for railroad wheels, used by my dad as a car inspector.

Do you know what the various parts of the gage measured? Was his a
Pratt & Whitney?

The name made me imagine the four gaps were to check diameters or
thicknesses in overhauling or building an airplane engine.


FWIW, the Pratt & Whitney Company, which makes (or made--not sure if they're
still in business) machine tools is a different company from Pratt &
Whitney Aircraft that makes aircraft engines. The relationship is that the
aircraft engine manufacturer was started in the Pratt & Whitney building
using a loan from the company and the right to use the name for aircraft
engines, but at no time were they they under the same ownership.

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On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:19:07 +0000, R.H. wrote:

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711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.

713 looks a lot like the thing that telephone guys use to shove the
wires into the patchboard terminals.

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711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.


I suggest it's 6000 grams, in which case the object is a smallish scale
like these:

http://www.northerntool.com/images/p...s/19393_lg.jpg
http://www.aardvarkclay.com/catalog_...ring_scale.jpg

but made with the general layout of this big one

http://www.fuhshyh.com/gif/product-1b.jpg

to allow for a larger dial, which in this case rotates through perhaps
1/4 circle, not a full circle, and has its needle out in the open.
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711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.



I'll go ahead and partly answer #711: you are correct, it's the
top of the frame of a world globe. I saw three other globes this week and
all of them had degrees on both sides of the frame; only the globe in the
photo had degrees on one side and different markings on the other. I'll
give the answer to why it has the number 6000 on it in a couple days if no
one gets it.

Rob





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711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.



I'll go ahead and partly answer #711: you are correct, it's the
top of the frame of a world globe. I saw three other globes this week and
all of them had degrees on both sides of the frame; only the globe in the
photo had degrees on one side and different markings on the other. I'll
give the answer to why it has the number 6000 on it in a couple days if no
one gets it.

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Miles from equator?


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I'm guessing Russian mils. 6,000 in a circle. Here's a link:
http://www.boomershoot.org/general/mils.htm
Karl


R.H. wrote:
711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.



I'll go ahead and partly answer #711: you are correct, it's the
top of the frame of a world globe. I saw three other globes this week and
all of them had degrees on both sides of the frame; only the globe in the
photo had degrees on one side and different markings on the other. I'll
give the answer to why it has the number 6000 on it in a couple days if no
one gets it.

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In article .com,
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I'm guessing Russian mils. 6,000 in a circle. Here's a link:
http://www.boomershoot.org/general/mils.htm
Karl


R.H. wrote:
711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.



I'll go ahead and partly answer #711: you are correct, it's the
top of the frame of a world globe. I saw three other globes this week and
all of them had degrees on both sides of the frame; only the globe in the
photo had degrees on one side and different markings on the other. I'll
give the answer to why it has the number 6000 on it in a couple days if no
one gets it.

Rob


Nice link!

Really makes the Minute Of Angle concept much clearer.
Thanks.

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Looks like I was wrong but I learned something I didn't know at that
site so that was good.
Karl

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I'm guessing Russian mils. 6,000 in a circle. Here's a link:
http://www.boomershoot.org/general/mils.htm
Karl


R.H. wrote:
711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.


I'll go ahead and partly answer #711: you are correct, it's the
top of the frame of a world globe. I saw three other globes this week and
all of them had degrees on both sides of the frame; only the globe in the
photo had degrees on one side and different markings on the other. I'll
give the answer to why it has the number 6000 on it in a couple days if no
one gets it.

Rob


Nice link!

Really makes the Minute Of Angle concept much clearer.
Thanks.

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| R.H. wrote:
| 711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
| ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
| that's probably not it.

| I'll go ahead and partly answer #711: you are correct, it's the
| top of the frame of a world globe. I saw three other globes this week and
| all of them had degrees on both sides of the frame; only the globe in the
| photo had degrees on one side and different markings on the other. I'll
| give the answer to why it has the number 6000 on it in a couple days if no
| one gets it.

Could it be the measurement in mils? There're 6400 mils in a circle.
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According to R.H. :

711 looks a lot like the top of that metal semicircle that holds an
ordinary world globe, but 6000 what? It should be 90 degrees, so
that's probably not it.



I'll go ahead and partly answer #711: you are correct, it's the
top of the frame of a world globe. I saw three other globes this week and
all of them had degrees on both sides of the frame; only the globe in the
photo had degrees on one side and different markings on the other. I'll
give the answer to why it has the number 6000 on it in a couple days if no
one gets it.


Well ... a quarter of the circumference of the world is about
6250 miles, and the scale stops short of the pole, so I would guess that
that is the distance from the equator -- or if the globe is one of those
designed to be free of an axis, it allows you to measure the
great-circle distance between two points which are less than a quarter
of the circumference apart -- or by adding the value to the South of the
equator, you could cover a distance of nearly 12000 miles great circle
distance.

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Hi,

710 is upside down in the top two photos, but correctly oriented in the
bottom photo. This thing sits at the free end of a sickle bar mower for
hay, or a reaper cutter, or a combine cutter head. It helps the bar
float with changes in the ground's surface and separates what will be
cut with what will not be cut. The front point pivots to aid in the
floating.


Thanks,
Roger Haar (a different RH)
Tucson, AZ


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Yup. But what is it CALLED? Driving myself nuts here--the thing has a
name!
I remember them a lot more from combines than from mowers. They lifted any
down
crop off of the ground. Spent many a day looking down from the operators
platform
at a whole row of them. Just can't remember what the name of the part is.


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Hi,

710 is upside down in the top two photos, but correctly oriented in the
bottom photo. This thing sits at the free end of a sickle bar mower for
hay, or a reaper cutter, or a combine cutter head. It helps the bar float
with changes in the ground's surface and separates what will be cut with
what will not be cut. The front point pivots to aid in the floating.


Thanks,
Roger Haar (a different RH)
Tucson, AZ


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Bill Marrs wrote:
Yup. But what is it CALLED? Driving myself nuts here--the thing has a
name!
I remember them a lot more from combines than from mowers. They lifted any
down
crop off of the ground. Spent many a day looking down from the operators
platform
at a whole row of them. Just can't remember what the name of the part is.


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Hi,

710 is upside down in the top two photos, but correctly oriented in the
bottom photo. This thing sits at the free end of a sickle bar mower for
hay, or a reaper cutter, or a combine cutter head. It helps the bar float
with changes in the ground's surface and separates what will be cut with
what will not be cut. The front point pivots to aid in the floating.


Thanks,
Roger Haar (a different RH)
Tucson, AZ


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They are called lifters. This is a floating lifter with a pivot. Some
were rigid without the pivot.
They are used to lift the crop being cut. They are installed about a
foot apart on the cutter bar.
This lifter was not a divider or used to support the cutter bar.

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On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:35:10 -0700, Roger Haar
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Hi,

710 is upside down in the top two photos, but correctly oriented in the
bottom photo. This thing sits at the free end of a sickle bar mower for
hay, or a reaper cutter, or a combine cutter head. It helps the bar
float with changes in the ground's surface and separates what will be
cut with what will not be cut. The front point pivots to aid in the
floating.


Thanks,
Roger Haar (a different RH)
Tucson, AZ


This is correct. It is called a shoe. Sometimes there is one on both
ends of the cutter bar. The one near the pittman arm is the inside
shoe and the other is the outside or land shoe.

To early farmers, any dividing of a field was "laying off a land."
Laying off a smaller tract was done for a couple of reasons. At the
rate of a few acres per day, it might me all a farmer could till
before the planting or growing season passed. And, secondly, some
progress could be seen in plowing a smaller tract; the psychological
benefit of seeing an end to a task.

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Hi,

710 is upside down in the top two photos, but correctly oriented in
the bottom photo. This thing sits at the free end of a sickle bar
mower for hay, or a reaper cutter, or a combine cutter head. It helps
the bar float with changes in the ground's surface and separates what
will be cut with what will not be cut. The front point pivots to aid
in the floating.


Thanks,
Roger Haar (a different RH)
Tucson, AZ


This is correct. It is called a shoe. Sometimes there is one on both
ends of the cutter bar. The one near the pittman arm is the inside
shoe and the other is the outside or land shoe.

To early farmers, any dividing of a field was "laying off a land."
Laying off a smaller tract was done for a couple of reasons. At the
rate of a few acres per day, it might me all a farmer could till
before the planting or growing season passed. And, secondly, some
progress could be seen in plowing a smaller tract; the psychological
benefit of seeing an end to a task.

--Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy--


Very interesting! Thanks very much. When my wife read this it sparked
some childhood memories of her father talking about the shoe on the
combine.

Gary (who sent in the photo)
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#710 My guess is that this rode on the outside end of a
mower sickle or perhaps a binder and kept the sickle
a consistent spacing from the ground.

#715 A punchdown tool, but not the standard 66 used with
older style phone blocks, or the standard 110 used with
modern Cat5 wiring systems.
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According to R.H. :
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O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as usual.

A bit late, because of a busy day.

708) Looks like a gauge for thickness. 15/16" and 1-1/16" marked for
the two largest ones. No marking (at least on this side) for the
two smaller ones, which are perhaps near 1/4" and 3/16".

The notches on the back edge are for measuring something else.
Perhaps it is a gauge for setting up a machine made by P&W.

709) Two large forks at the ends, and smaller ones along the
handle. The larger ones may be for prying apart things which
snap together. The smaller ones *might* be for pulling clear
safety wire which had previously been twisted into a hole in a
nut or bolt head.

710) Perhaps some kind of point for breaking up sod? I'm not sure
why it would be hinged -- perhaps to clear better when backing
out?

711) It doesn't quite look familiar. The "6000" is part of some
sort of arc-shaped scale, which suggests a pivoted pointer.

It looks die-cast, and thus not particularly strong.

712) combination hex wrench and some sort of prying tool, for
disassembling something, I would guess, but I have no idea what.

713) Hmm ... looks like a cheap version of the J66 tool for punching
down connections on phone termination blocks.

A good collection of difficult to identify things today.

Now to see what others have said.

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709) Two large forks at the ends, and smaller ones along the
handle. The larger ones may be for prying apart things which
snap together. The smaller ones *might* be for pulling clear
safety wire which had previously been twisted into a hole in a
nut or bolt head.


Part of this answer is close.

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Using this and the hint that it's used outdoors at a farm or ranch,
could this tool be used for installing a barbed wire fence? I'm not
sure what the ends would be used for, but the notches on the inside
could be used to hold the wire in place with the curve in the tool
wrapping around the fencepost. While the tool holds the wire in place,
you can secure the wire to the post.

-Eric

R.H. wrote:
709) Two large forks at the ends, and smaller ones along the
handle. The larger ones may be for prying apart things which
snap together. The smaller ones *might* be for pulling clear
safety wire which had previously been twisted into a hole in a
nut or bolt head.


Part of this answer is close.

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Using this and the hint that it's used outdoors at a farm or ranch,
could this tool be used for installing a barbed wire fence? I'm not
sure what the ends would be used for, but the notches on the inside
could be used to hold the wire in place with the curve in the tool
wrapping around the fencepost. While the tool holds the wire in place,
you can secure the wire to the post.


Doesn't look like any fencing pliers or come-along that I
used to install barbed wire fencing, but then that was more
than 30 years ago, too.

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"Eric Porter" writes:
Using this and the hint that it's used outdoors at a farm or ranch,
could this tool be used for installing a barbed wire fence? I'm not
sure what the ends would be used for, but the notches on the inside
could be used to hold the wire in place with the curve in the tool
wrapping around the fencepost. While the tool holds the wire in place,
you can secure the wire to the post.


Doesn't look like any fencing pliers or come-along that I
used to install barbed wire fencing, but then that was more
than 30 years ago, too.

scott



I have no idea how old this tool is, there isn't a single letter or number
on it that I can see. I'm planning to use the links below on the answer
page, the first is a collage of about a hundred different types of barbed
wi

http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/Barbed_wire_collage.htm

This next link gives a few details on some specific types:

http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/barbedwireimages.htm

I'm thinking that with so many different kinds of barbed wire there must
also be quite a few different and unusual tools for working with them, so
I'll probably go with the barbed wire answer for now until I find evidence
that it's something else. I've sent a couple emails to some barbed wire
museums, maybe one of them will recognize it.


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Using this and the hint that it's used outdoors at a farm or ranch,
could this tool be used for installing a barbed wire fence? I'm not
sure what the ends would be used for, but the notches on the inside
could be used to hold the wire in place with the curve in the tool
wrapping around the fencepost. While the tool holds the wire in place,
you can secure the wire to the post.



When I bought this tool I didn't know what it was for, then last week I saw
another one just like it marked "barbed wire stretching tool". I haven't
been able to verify this, but as you mention it seems that the slots in the
side would work well at holding the barbs for stretching the wire.

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709) Two large forks at the ends, and smaller ones along the
handle. The larger ones may be for prying apart things which
snap together. The smaller ones *might* be for pulling clear
safety wire which had previously been twisted into a hole in a
nut or bolt head.


Part of this answer is close.

Rob


It looks like something I'd want in my tool box in certain situations.
The fingers along the sides would be good for picking up the loop at the
end of a tension spring to stretch it for installing or removal.

The forked ends would fit around two general rod diameters to pry and
compress a coil spring around the rod so that the key holding the spring
could be removed or installed.
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708- thickness and contour guage

709- valve compressor

710-

711-

712-

713- telco block punchdown tool (not sure for what type of block,
though)

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Four of the six have been answered correctly:








708. Train wheel gage

709. Hint: Used outdoors on a farm or ranch.

710. Part of a sickle bar mower, thanks to all who helped solve this one.

711. The top of a globe frame, the number 6000 represents miles from the
equator.

712. Hint: "_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ driver's tool", eight letters in the first word

713. Quick connect impact insertion tool, for telephone tech.


Several new photos and links have been posted on the answer page:

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712. Hint: "_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ driver's tool", eight letters in the first
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Backseat driver's tool ;-)

Carl G.


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