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New woodworking machinery company
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=26320
I guess we can all start our own woodworking machinery company. You just need a lot of cash, you pay yourself a trip to China, you pick your suppliers and you pick your "company official color". Sorry, yellow, red, gray, green, blue, white are already taken. You get your containers full of Chinese made tools back in America and you start selling them. Do we need another company like that? Cyberben |
New woodworking machinery company
wrote in message ups.com... http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=26320 I guess we can all start our own woodworking machinery company. You just need a lot of cash, you pay yourself a trip to China, you pick your suppliers and you pick your "company official color". Sorry, yellow, red, gray, green, blue, white are already taken. You get your containers full of Chinese made tools back in America and you start selling them. Do we need another company like that? Cyberben I applaud them. Its a huge risk to start a new company. Particularly when a large part of the market has in it some real cheap junk masquerading as tools. It seems to me, by reading some of the threads here, that a significant number of woodworkers buy solely on price. I will hope Steel City Tools Works succeeds, manufacturers and services a quality product. However, if they just introduce a different colored chinwanese machine, they are doomed. IMHO Dave Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
New woodworking machinery company
On 2 Jun 2006 10:28:33 -0700, wrote:
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=26320 I guess we can all start our own woodworking machinery company. You just need a lot of cash, you pay yourself a trip to China, you pick your suppliers and you pick your "company official color". Sorry, yellow, red, gray, green, blue, white are already taken. You get your containers full of Chinese made tools back in America and you start selling them. Do we need another company like that? Although there is something to some of that, it probably would help to have a ton of expertise in the industry, which the founders of the company appear to have in spades--if you count high level positions at Delta and Powermatic as expertise. Elllis Walentine (no lightweight in the industry himself) wrote an exclusive report on the rollout, which you can read he http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/r...es_766.s html Several of the WoodCentral folks have already suggested some things, which I'm sure will be fed back to the company. I like the looks of the oscillating spindle sander which, if the price is right, will keep me from having to buy anything from Grizzly. Unfortunately, they have arrived too late for me as I already have most of the major tools that I need, but you guys have a ball. -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month. If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't care to correspond with you anyway. |
New woodworking machinery company
wrote in message ups.com... http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=26320 Do we need another company like that? Why do you ask? With all the bitching about Delta and Jet getting weaker with their products, a company that wants to be innovative and focus on what woodworkers really want should be welcomed. . Sounds like the real innovation will be the second generation machines, but they are able to hit the present market with some good iron. Worth looking at their offerings. |
New woodworking machinery company
On 2 Jun 2006 10:28:33 -0700, wrote:
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=26320 I guess we can all start our own woodworking machinery company. You just need a lot of cash, you pay yourself a trip to China, you pick your suppliers and you pick your "company official color". Sorry, yellow, red, gray, green, blue, white are already taken. You get your containers full of Chinese made tools back in America and you start selling them. Do we need another company like that? Probably not- but if they raise the bar even a little, it can't hurt. Better than a continued decline, at any rate. FWIW, I haven't used them, but I took a strong look at the Orion tools at Sears, and they seemed pretty decent. The only thing that turned me off was that they used odd sizes for most things, and not even Sears sold the accessories. If it's the same guy that started it along with some Jet and Delta folks, it could be a good thing. I know my wood supplier broke off and formed his own company, and his product line is similar, but the hours, prices and general feel of the place is greatly improved. Though I'd agree I'd rather see them start a factory in the US. |
New woodworking machinery company
On 2 Jun 2006 10:28:33 -0700, wrote:
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=26320 I guess we can all start our own woodworking machinery company. You just need a lot of cash, you pay yourself a trip to China, you pick your suppliers and you pick your "company official color". Sorry, yellow, red, gray, green, blue, white are already taken. You get your containers full of Chinese made tools back in America and you start selling them. Do we need another company like that? Cyberben I personally know all of the principles in this company and in my opinion they are the very best in the industry. They definitely have the best machinery guy who had experience with both Delta and Powermatic. I hope their experience and knowledge leads to good machines and success for them. Frank |
New woodworking machinery company
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
I personally know all of the principles in this company I hope the principals have lots of them. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 5/6/06 |
New woodworking machinery company
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:08:59 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message I personally know all of the principles in this company I hope the principals have lots of them. Got me. Just got in from running a 5K. Did well, but blood not back up to my brain yet. and they do. Frank |
New woodworking machinery company
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:08:59 -0500, "Swingman" wrote: "Frank Boettcher" wrote in message I personally know all of the principles in this company I hope the principals have lots of them. Got me. Just got in from running a 5K. Did well, but blood not back up to my brain yet. I figured it was cuz of your MBA. g, d &r and they do. Good to hear ... just joshing you a little, Frank. Your posts are some of the best on the wRec and your expertise/knowledge with the Delta stuff is invaluable. Thanks ... -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 5/6/06 |
New woodworking machinery company
I guess this will be a real test of what we say and what we do. IF,
IF, they turn out a better product and it costs a little more, it will be interesting to see if the general public supports it by buying it. Plenty of good products are no longer available because of price point objections by the public. I think it could go either way. According to the manager of our local Woodcraft sales of the big machines has definitely gone down. Is it that people will buy nothing if they think their money isn't buying value, or is it that the market is reaching saturation? Maybe even lack of interest? They sure don't know the answer, but the guy owns 5 stores here in TX, so I am sure they will be watching this as closely as anyone else. Their table saw sales have gone from 3 - 5 a week per store to 1 -2, sometimes none! Hobby guys keep the table saw, bandsaw, big lathe market alive. When the woodworking fad fades again, so do the sales of those machines. I still remember when the radial saw (mid 70s ?) was the only tool needed in a shop. Or at least that was the way it was marketed. They will work hard to create a new market or interest just they way they have with the interest in all things "lathe" over the last few years. As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new "it" tool will be. Robert |
New woodworking machinery company
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New woodworking machinery company
Morris Dovey wrote:
(in ) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... The scary thing is, Canadian Tire actually *has* a motorized adjustable wrench. Opens/closes with a button push. Chris |
New woodworking machinery company
wrote in message oups.com... I guess this will be a real test of what we say and what we do. IF, IF, they turn out a better product and it costs a little more, it will be interesting to see if the general public supports it by buying it. Plenty of good products are no longer available because of price point objections by the public. I think it could go either way. According to the manager of our local Woodcraft sales of the big machines has definitely gone down. Is it that people will buy nothing if they think their money isn't buying value, or is it that the market is reaching saturation? Maybe even lack of interest? They sure don't know the answer, but the guy owns 5 stores here in TX, so I am sure they will be watching this as closely as anyone else. Their table saw sales have gone from 3 - 5 a week per store to 1 -2, sometimes none! Perhaps the increasing number of competitive businesses and bench top tools offered by the name big name brands. Car dealerships went through this also in the 70's and 80's. You cant sell only 1 or 2 brands. If you want 40% of the potential market you need to offer 40 % of the brands offering big equipment. IIRC Woodcraft offers Jet, Powermatic, and Delta and those certainly are a good mix but there is also, Craftsman, OneWay, Nova, Grizzly, Rikon, DeWalt, B&D, Hitachi, Makita, Laguna, MiniMax which all offer some competitive products in their respective markets. Then add in house brands. |
New woodworking machinery company
"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... (in ) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. [from elsethread] Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... LOL.. |
New woodworking machinery company
"Morris Dovey" wrote:
(in .com) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. [from elsethread] Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... Inflatable? -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
New woodworking machinery company
"Chris Friesen" wrote in message ... Morris Dovey wrote: (in ) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... The scary thing is, Canadian Tire actually *has* a motorized adjustable wrench. Opens/closes with a button push. A motorized adjustable wrench will never have the appeal of a motorized wench, with blond hair. |
New woodworking machinery company
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:04:54 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: "Chris Friesen" wrote in message ... Morris Dovey wrote: (in ) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... The scary thing is, Canadian Tire actually *has* a motorized adjustable wrench. Opens/closes with a button push. A motorized adjustable wrench will never have the appeal of a motorized wench, with blond hair. I'm kind of partial to brunettes ;-) +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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New woodworking machinery company
"Leon" Perhaps the increasing number of competitive businesses and bench top tools offered by the name big name brands. Car dealerships went through this also in the 70's and 80's. You cant sell only 1 or 2 brands. If you want 40% of the potential market you need to offer 40 % of the brands offering big equipment. IIRC Woodcraft offers Jet, Powermatic, and Delta and those certainly are a good mix but there is also, Craftsman, OneWay, Nova, Grizzly, Rikon, DeWalt, B&D, Hitachi, Makita, Laguna, MiniMax which all offer some competitive products in their respective markets. Then add in house brands. Were still at it. Our group has 7 franchise lines. 3 Domestic 4 Imports. The woodworking market, I believe, can stand more products as long as they offer something the others don't. I think of the drum sander line. Performax seems to be the dominate brand and for good reason. I would think at least one of the other manufacturers would be able to come up with a better product yet still remain competitive. Dave |
New woodworking machinery company
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Morris Dovey wrote: (in .com) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. [from elsethread] Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... Will it come in a stripped-down model, for those of us on a budget? |
New woodworking machinery company
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:21:54 -0500, "Morris Dovey"
wrote: (in .com) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. [from elsethread] Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... That makes Mr. Johnson shrink just thinking about it... -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month. If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't care to correspond with you anyway. |
New woodworking machinery company
"Morris Dovey" wrote in news:iYCgg.12$AO1.3315
@news.uswest.net: (in ) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. [from elsethread] Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto I remember when I tried to patent an electric fork to go along with the electric knife. After that experience I gave up on the electric spoon. Hank |
New woodworking machinery company
Robert Bonomi (in ) said:
| In article , | Morris Dovey wrote: || (in || ) said: || ||| As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new ||| "it" tool will be. || || [from elsethread] || || Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... | | Will it come in a stripped-down model, for those of us on a budget? From my experiences with an early prototype, I'd suggest you focus on quality rather than price. As usual, knowing as much as possible about the manufacturer provides much better information than the advertizing. I was strongly attracted by the random orbital feature but very much disliked that the randomization feature was wired into the on-off switch. I had the cordless model and it would turn on when I wasn't even in the shop. After-the-fact research has indicated that although the basic design was good, someone at the factory had played with it enough to damage several of the control circuits and, as a result, it was out of true and never could be depended upon. The current failure rate appears to be close to 50% - so shop carefully to get good value. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto |
New woodworking machinery company
A link to some information on the new company.
http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/ezine/toolpreview.cfm |
New woodworking machinery company
Hmmm....
The last time I saw "Steel City" stamped on something, it was a galvanized electrical outlet box. They must be moving up in the world.... --Jim "Henry St.Pierre" wrote in message .142... "Morris Dovey" wrote in news:iYCgg.12$AO1.3315 @news.uswest.net: (in ) said: | As for me, I can't for the life of me figure out what the next new | "it" tool will be. [from elsethread] Keep your eyes peeled for a motorized wench... -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto I remember when I tried to patent an electric fork to go along with the electric knife. After that experience I gave up on the electric spoon. Hank |
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