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Lee Valley being used as an example.
My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
via a
Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
for
shipping.
My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
Valley
order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
delivered right to his door.

It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.


So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
rules.

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.


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George wrote:
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Lee Valley being used as an example.
My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
via a
Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
for
shipping.
My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
Valley
order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
delivered right to his door.

It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.



So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
rules.

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.


Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.

This is obviously to combat fraud.

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On 8-Apr-2006, "George" George@least wrote:

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.


What on Earth do the business practices of a corporation have to do with
socialism?

Mike
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:03:29 -0700, Enoch Root
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George wrote:
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Lee Valley being used as an example.
My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
via a
Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
for
shipping.
My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
Valley
order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
delivered right to his door.

It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.



So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
rules.

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.


Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.

This is obviously to combat fraud.


No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.

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In article , Mark & Juanita
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No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.


Same in Canada. As new subdiivisions spring up, home delivery goes
away. I believe parcel delivery still happens to the door if you
provide a street address.

Of course, if all you give the shipper is a PO Box, how are they
supposed to know where you live?


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Phone Priority Post and ask them.


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Mark & Juanita wrote:
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:03:29 -0700, Enoch Root
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George wrote:

wrote in message
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Lee Valley being used as an example.
My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
via a
Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
for
shipping.
My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
Valley
order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
delivered right to his door.

It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.



So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
rules.

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.


Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.

This is obviously to combat fraud.



No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.


I'm talking about the policy of not delivering to PO boxes.

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In article , Enoch
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I'm talking about the policy of not delivering to PO boxes.


Canada Post will deliver to PO boxes... anything that will actually fit
in the PO box.

If you order something that won't fit in the PO box, where should they
put it?
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Dave Balderstone wrote:

In article , Enoch
Root wrote:

I'm talking about the policy of not delivering to PO boxes.


Canada Post will deliver to PO boxes... anything that will actually
fit in the PO box.

If you order something that won't fit in the PO box, where should they
put it?


In the US, they used to keep it in the back and put a card in your box. I
think they still do, as I've seen folks in the post office going from a
box to the counter with what looks like the parcel card left for home
delivery. The regular on my route (suburb delivery to a cluster box) will
bring the parcel And the regular mail to my door and leave the parcel if
I'm not home. She's also a looker! I'd do more ordering online, but SWMBO
has already remarked on me chatting her up and now answers the door
around mail time, if she's home G.
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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn
as
you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just
the
rules.

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after
all.


Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.

This is obviously to combat fraud.


No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.


Moreover, it was meant to emphasize that government can (and does) make, and
force its subjects to abide by the silliest of rules - because, just
because.

Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two steps
beyond.

I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived at
the post office when the postmistress takes her break .




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On 8-Apr-2006, "George" George@least wrote:

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after
all.


What on Earth do the business practices of a corporation have to do with
socialism?


Open up. It's about "the rules," man. Canada post isn't a corporation any
more than USPS is, I'm sure. Imagine how much more arbitrary they could be
if they made other delivery services illegal.

That's socialism - state monopoly.

Clear now?


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Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two
steps beyond.

I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived
at the post office when the postmistress takes her break .


Oh yes, on the subject of arbitrary, there is a post office two and one half
miles from my house, but their delivery is north of a line a half mile south
of their location. My mail is from one twenty miles or so further south....


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"George" George@least wrote in message
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Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two
steps beyond.

I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived
at the post office when the postmistress takes her break .


Oh yes, on the subject of arbitrary, there is a post office two and one half
miles from my house, but their delivery is north of a line a half mile south
of their location. My mail is from one twenty miles or so further south....




Damn, you sure you don't live by me? The closest PO to me is about 3.5
miles, but my mail is delivered from the next county over from a PO that
is about 16 miles away. Not that I use the post office, as they will
deliver to my door (even going down my crazy driveway) any packages that
won't fit in the LARGE mailbox I have on the road.

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George wrote:

Moreover, it was meant to emphasize that government can (and does) make, and
force its subjects to abide by the silliest of rules - because, just
because.


Kind of like parents in that respect. "Because I'm the mom, that's
why!"

Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two steps
beyond.

I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived at
the post office when the postmistress takes her break .


If you want open spaces and clear skies, you'll usually give up some of
the conveniences of living in a more densely populated area. If you
want sushi at three in the morning, delivered, and a doorman to accept
packages for you at any time, there's always NYC.

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On 9-Apr-2006, "George" George@least wrote:

Canada post isn't a corporation any
more than USPS is, I'm sure.


You may be sure, but you're wrong. Canada Post _is_ a corporation
and sets its policies independent of the government.

Companies make rules too. For example, Grizzly won't sell and ship
to Canadians. No government involved. Get over it.

Mike


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In the US, they used to keep it in the back and put a card in your box.


In my PO, they have larger locker-type boxes. A key to a locker box is
put in the PO box when the parcel is too large. Like a coin-op luggage
locker, the key stays in the locker once it is opened.
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I have the same situation with UPS. The place where I drop parcels off is
only about 2 miles away in a good neighborhood. The place where I pick them
up is much further away in a 'less hospitable' locale.

I've taken to telling retailers that if their shipment is gonna require a
signature from UPS, then cancel my order. Seems to be working so far.
They've been shipping UPS but without the need for a signature.
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