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Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables.
Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? |
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Paint thinner is very close to being kerosene and it is not as stinky! It
will work just fine. Dave |
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Kerosene is probably recommended as being available and inexpensive.
Mineral Spirits works as well. The recommendation to NOT use gasoline or acetone is due to flammability. Dave Paine. "Cap'n 321" wrote in message et... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? |
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I like VM&P Naptha.
Darrell "Cap'n 321" wrote in message et... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? |
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On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:43:29 -0500, "Tyke" wrote:
Kerosene is probably recommended as being available and inexpensive. Mineral Spirits works as well. The recommendation to NOT use gasoline or acetone is due to flammability. Thought the admonition against acetone would be due to damage to painted surfaces? Definitely agree that the gasoline would be flammability concerns. Dave Paine. "Cap'n 321" wrote in message . net... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:31:07 GMT, Cap'n 321
wrote: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Use an entire roll of paper towels to wipe off as much as possible. Kerosene is not that difficult to find. It is sold at most large gas stations and Walmart. I'd check the hunting/fishing/camping supplies area. You don't need a lot of kerosene, and it has a lot of uses including removing light rust and preventing it, plus it is relatively non-toxic! Yeah, it does stink, but it's not too bad if open a window. |
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The Cap'n 321 entity posted thusly:
Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? If you can't find it at WalMart or a large gas station or camping supplies place, WD-40, though somewhat expensive, is basically scented kerosene. |
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Talk about a fire hazard!! I use that for lighter fluid. Does cut the crap
of a new tool real well though "Darrell Dorsey" wrote in message ervers.com... I like VM&P Naptha. Darrell "Cap'n 321" wrote in message et... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? |
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Cap'n 321 wrote:
Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Good grief! Diesel fuel is essentially the same thing. How about fuel for wick type lamps, also many hardware and other places sell kerosene heaters so they also sell kerosene, also Lowes and Home Depot. Why not use WD 40. They probably don't want you to clean it with gasoline or acetone because it might rust almost immediately. |
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Cap'n 321 wrote:
Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Lighter fluid. er -- email not valid |
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"Enoch Root" wrote in message ... Cap'n 321 wrote: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Lighter fluid. Mountain bike citrus degreaser. Water soluble, a 1/2 litre bottle goes a long way. And, no, I didn't think it would work either. Trip down to your local bike shop and have a word. Trust me. |
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On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:47:58 -0600, Oleg Lego wrote:
The Cap'n 321 entity posted thusly: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? If you can't find it at WalMart or a large gas station or camping supplies place, WD-40, though somewhat expensive, is basically scented kerosene. Some auto supply stores carry WD-40 in bulk 1 gallon cans and relatively inexpensive compared to the aerosols. The last place I saw this was at Pep Boys several years ago; haven't looked since. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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"Oleg Lego" wrote in message ... The Cap'n 321 entity posted thusly: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? If you can't find it at WalMart or a large gas station or camping supplies place, WD-40, though somewhat expensive, is basically scented kerosene. Not even close. Stoddard solvent. Kerosene is a bunch heavier. Mineral spirits a close match. |
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"deadlock" nobody@nowhere_yes_its a_cliche.com wrote in message ... "Enoch Root" wrote in message ... Cap'n 321 wrote: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Lighter fluid. Mountain bike citrus degreaser. Water soluble, a 1/2 litre bottle goes a long way. And, no, I didn't think it would work either. Trip down to your local bike shop and have a word. Trust me. Great idea! Water and cast iron should be friends.... |
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most households have oven cleaner on had - give it a go.
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Cap'n 321 wrote:
Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Can you find diesel fuel or heating oil? They are essentially kerosene with different tax schemes attached. As far as that goes, you can also use Jet-A. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN VE |
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Mineral spirits.
Don Dando "Cap'n 321" wrote in message et... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? |
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Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables.
Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Diesel will work just as well. |
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"deadlock" nobody@nowhere_yes_its a_cliche.com wrote in message ... "Enoch Root" wrote in message ... Cap'n 321 wrote: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Lighter fluid. Mountain bike citrus degreaser. Water soluble, a 1/2 litre bottle goes a long way. And, no, I didn't think it would work either. Trip down to your local bike shop and have a word. Trust me. You forgot to say "April Fools" Putting water into the equation doesn't make any sense to me. I use mineral spirits and WD-40 from a refillable spray bottle. |
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No, it isn't. Not a bit of kerosene in it. Works for the intended pupose
though. "Oleg Lego" wrote in message ... The Cap'n 321 entity posted thusly: WD-40, though somewhat expensive, is basically scented kerosene. |
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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:45:26 GMT, "CW" wrote:
Get some diesel fuel. Close enough that you'd never know the difference. WD 40 also works. BTW, kerosene is easily available in most of the civilized word. How hard did you look? Places like Tucson with very little winter have a limited number of sources. As far as I am aware, there are two places one can get kerosene here, one place here wanted to charge $8/gallon for a pail of kerosene last winter. My normal supplier is much more reasonable but they only carry kerosene during the winter months and in limited supply. "Cap'n 321" wrote in message . net... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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Sailaway wrote:
Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Lamp Oil. Lew |
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CW wrote:
BTW, kerosene is easily available in most of the civilized word. How hard did you look? You will play hell trying to find kero in SoCal. It's an air quality issue. Lew |
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Standard lantern and camp stove fuel. In Arizona? Got to be everywhere. In
any case, diesel is available. "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:45:26 GMT, "CW" wrote: Get some diesel fuel. Close enough that you'd never know the difference. WD 40 also works. BTW, kerosene is easily available in most of the civilized word. How hard did you look? Places like Tucson with very little winter have a limited number of sources. As far as I am aware, there are two places one can get kerosene here, one place here wanted to charge $8/gallon for a pail of kerosene last winter. My normal supplier is much more reasonable but they only carry kerosene during the winter months and in limited supply. "Cap'n 321" wrote in message . net... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ |
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Got diesel? In any case, I did specify the civilized world.
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message news CW wrote: BTW, kerosene is easily available in most of the civilized word. How hard did you look? You will play hell trying to find kero in SoCal. It's an air quality issue. Lew |
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The George entity posted thusly:
"Oleg Lego" wrote in message .. . The Cap'n 321 entity posted thusly: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? If you can't find it at WalMart or a large gas station or camping supplies place, WD-40, though somewhat expensive, is basically scented kerosene. Not even close. Stoddard solvent. Kerosene is a bunch heavier. Mineral spirits a close match. Since WD40 ingredients are proprietary, and since Stoddard solvent is, like kerosene and Varsol, an aliphatic petroleum distillate, I would say that the point is pretty much moot. WD40 pours like kerosene, burns like kerosene, and in all ways except smell, acts like kerosene, I would consider it to be, most likely, a duck. |
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Cap'n 321 wrote: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? BTDT. GTTS. *I* called delta tech support and asked them. grin They said 'mineral spiritis', or turpentine, or paint thinner, are all acceptable substitutes. They said they recommend kerosene because: 1) it is nearly universally available 2) it is generally the _lowest_price_ of the alternatives. |
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I bought a new grizzly last July. They recommended orange cleaner. Didn't
work for me. I used a plastic scraper and WD40. Worked great. "Cap'n 321" wrote in message et... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? |
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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:05:02 GMT, "CW" wrote:
Standard lantern and camp stove fuel. In Arizona? Got to be everywhere. In any case, diesel is available. Never said diesel won't work. Was only responding to the blanket statement that "kerosene is easily available in most of the civilized world". Despite my occasional protestations that Tucson may not be part of the civilized world, my comment was meant to point out that kerosene (in and of itself as a product sold as "kerosene", not lantern nor camp stove fuel) is not necessarily easily available all over. Also, isn't camp stove fuel really white gasoline? Not necessarily something to be using as a solvent. "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:45:26 GMT, "CW" wrote: Get some diesel fuel. Close enough that you'd never know the difference. WD 40 also works. BTW, kerosene is easily available in most of the civilized word. How hard did you look? Places like Tucson with very little winter have a limited number of sources. As far as I am aware, there are two places one can get kerosene here, one place here wanted to charge $8/gallon for a pail of kerosene last winter. My normal supplier is much more reasonable but they only carry kerosene during the winter months and in limited supply. "Cap'n 321" wrote in message . net... Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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I'd be willing to bet that I could take a flight to Tucson, and, upon
ariving, I could find kerosene withing 1 hour. "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:05:02 GMT, "CW" wrote: |
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:05:02 GMT, "CW" wrote: Standard lantern and camp stove fuel. In Arizona? Got to be everywhere. In any case, diesel is available. Never said diesel won't work. Was only responding to the blanket statement that "kerosene is easily available in most of the civilized world". Despite my occasional protestations that Tucson may not be part of the civilized world, my comment was meant to point out that kerosene (in and of itself as a product sold as "kerosene", not lantern nor camp stove fuel) is not necessarily easily available all over. Also, isn't camp stove fuel really white gasoline? Not necessarily something to be using as a solvent. "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:45:26 GMT, "CW" wrote: Most of us don't have a clue what all these different fractions are or how they differ. But just because something doesn't say it is kerosene, doesn't mean it isn't kerosene or the next best thing. They don't call wick type lanterns kerosene lamps because they burn whale oil. Yuppie lamps still use kerosene, they just put colors and smells into it. I don't know what camp stove fuel is but it acts just like lighter fluid, excellent for removing gunky labels. It is not what we use to buy as "white gas" which, near as I can tell, is regular gasoline without the coloring and without the lead. Not too cool to burn gasoline with lead in it in a camp stove. Course camp fuel will also work in a gasoline stove. In any case, the camp fuel I've bought does not act exactly like gasoline which is less viscous and evaporates faster. |
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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "CW" wrote:
[Top posting fixed] "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:05:02 GMT, "CW" wrote: I'd be willing to bet that I could take a flight to Tucson, and, upon ariving, I could find kerosene withing 1 hour. [sigh] As you could note in my original post on this topic, I indicated that, as best I have been able to find, there are *two* sources for kerosene in Tucson. One of them is obscenely expensive, the second carries it as a seasonal item. I didn't say it was impossible to find, only that it was not as readily available as some alternatives. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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You will play hell trying to find kero in SoCal.
It's an air quality issue. Lew I am in socal, and it's everywhere. Cheap too. But it's in any standard little hardware store, in those two tone rectangular cans, like dirty yellow and white colored. I think it costs around $2.99 a quart or so. -- Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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Figured. Being California though, I thought the unavailability just might be
true. "AAvK" wrote in message news:aq1Yf.674$Fl.169@fed1read09... You will play hell trying to find kero in SoCal. It's an air quality issue. Lew I am in socal, and it's everywhere. Cheap too. But it's in any standard little hardware store, in those two tone rectangular cans, like dirty yellow and white colored. I think it costs around $2.99 a quart or so. -- Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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CW wrote:
Figured. Being California though, I thought the unavailability just might be true. At $3.00/qt, AQMD has pretty much obtained it's objective to make distribution of kero expensive and difficult. It is the same trick they use to limit VOC based contact cement for laminate. From memory, think they limit that to pint cans. Lew |
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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Most of us don't have a clue what all these different fractions are or how they differ. But just because something doesn't say it is kerosene, doesn't mean it isn't kerosene or the next best thing. They don't call wick type lanterns kerosene lamps because they burn whale oil. Yuppie lamps still use kerosene, they just put colors and smells into it. I don't know what camp stove fuel is but it acts just like lighter fluid, excellent for removing gunky labels. It is not what we use to buy as "white gas" which, near as I can tell, is regular gasoline without the coloring and without the lead. Not too cool to burn gasoline with lead in it in a camp stove. Course camp fuel will also work in a gasoline stove. In any case, the camp fuel I've bought does not act exactly like gasoline which is less viscous and evaporates faster. All that money wasted on printing labels and warnings. Suppose you and CW could get together over a cigar and discuss the difference in volatility and flash point between kerosene and camp stove fuel? |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
CW wrote: Figured. Being California though, I thought the unavailability just might be true. At $3.00/qt, AQMD has pretty much obtained it's objective to make distribution of kero expensive and difficult. Since I can buy diesel around here for about $2.50 a gallon, that's what I use in my garage heater. The OP is correct, kerosene can be difficult to find at times... but diesel never is. Essentially the same stuff.... -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN VE |
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Cap'n 321 wrote:
Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? I clean my tools and other things with Permatex Fast Orange smooth hand cleaner. It may leave a lotiony residue that you may want to remove with something like kerosene :P Seriously though, I use it on my hands and my tools. Heck, generally I wash both at the same time. There is also brake cleaner. You can probably find some good stuff at your local autoparts store. -- Thank you, "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16 |
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"George" George@least wrote in message ... "deadlock" nobody@nowhere_yes_its a_cliche.com wrote in message ... "Enoch Root" wrote in message ... Cap'n 321 wrote: Got my new Delta delivered and need to clean the gunk off the tables. Delta says use kerosene and specifically says not to use gasoline or acetone. Finding kerosene is a pain in the butt. Any ideas? Lighter fluid. Mountain bike citrus degreaser. Water soluble, a 1/2 litre bottle goes a long way. And, no, I didn't think it would work either. Trip down to your local bike shop and have a word. Trust me. Great idea! Water and cast iron should be friends.... We have a new invention over here called towels. That and a little old fashioned common sense restraint should see you allright. |
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