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What's up with price of solvents?
Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of
mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. |
What's up with price of solvents?
Seeker wrote:
Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. It's called capitalism. :) Dave |
What's up with price of solvents?
Seeker lamented:
Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. Have you noticed what the price of diesel fuel has gone up to? Yesterday I saw it at $2.97/gal. Thats the fuel the trucks and trains use to bring you all those goods. And it ain't getting cheaper... |
What's up with price of solvents?
"David" wrote in message ... Seeker wrote: Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. It's called capitalism. :) They're called petroleum products. Dave |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Sailaway" wrote in message ... Have you noticed what the price of diesel fuel has gone up to? Yesterday I saw it at $2.97/gal. Thats the fuel the trucks and trains use to bring you all those goods. And it ain't getting cheaper... Bought some for the tractor this morning. Thankfully, it's a lot cheaper here, especially in OTR. |
What's up with price of solvents?
"What the market will bear." And, if you've paid those prices, you've
reinforced their justification to sell at those prices. Tom |
What's up with price of solvents?
Seeker wrote:
Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. Can't help you with LT but buy paint thinner instead of mineral spirits...it's about half (or less) the price of MS where I am. As for inflation in general, you can thank the federal government for that...dollars no longer have any backing (FDR removed gold, Nixon removed silver), feds can print as much as they want, feds are world's biggest debtors, inflation is good for debtors because payback is with still cheaper dollars. Look forward to $20 McDonald's hamburgers... -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
What's up with price of solvents?
In article , "George" George@least
wrote: "David" wrote in message ... Seeker wrote: Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. It's called capitalism. :) It's called ' a population being harvested for their money'. IOW, screwed out of their earnings..aside from tax. They're called petroleum products. It's called making sure the petroleum products stay 'controlled' in production by invading an oil-producing country which was threatening to sell lots of oil, cheap, for Euros. Oil companies want it that way...that is... if you want their campaign contributions.... |
What's up with price of solvents?
Sailaway writes:
Have you noticed what the price of diesel fuel has gone up to? Yesterday I saw it at $2.97/gal. Thats the fuel the trucks and trains use to bring you all those goods. And it ain't getting cheaper... Where are you that diesel is up to $2.97 a gallon? $2.53 here in Minnesota and our diesel prices have been pretty high compared to the rest of the USA for the past six months. They say high cost of oil has made gasoline prices skyrocket the last few weeks, but oil prices haven't gone up as much as gasoline has. Brian Elfert |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Robatoy" wrote in message
... In article , "George" George@least wrote: "David" wrote in message ... Seeker wrote: Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. It's called capitalism. :) It's called ' a population being harvested for their money'. IOW, screwed out of their earnings..aside from tax. They're called petroleum products. It's called making sure the petroleum products stay 'controlled' in production by invading an oil-producing country which was threatening to sell lots of oil, cheap, for Euros. Oil companies want it that way...that is... if you want their campaign contributions.... All controlled by the Trilateral Commission. Or is it the Illuminati? Sorry, I'm a little behind on current kook theory. Why would it have been in Iraq's interest to sell at below the going rate? And wasn't Iraq still under UN sanctions on sale of oil at the time of the start of hostilities? Not counting the UN oil-for-bribes program, of course. You're sure it couldn't be that a) the supply of petroleum is finite and b) worldwide demand is increasing? todd |
What's up with price of solvents?
It's called making sure the petroleum products stay 'controlled' in production by invading an oil-producing country which was threatening to sell lots of oil, cheap, for Euros. Oil companies want it that way...that is... if you want their campaign contributions.... All controlled by the Trilateral Commission. Or is it the Illuminati? Sorry, I'm a little behind on current kook theory. Why would it have been in Iraq's interest to sell at below the going rate? And wasn't Iraq still under UN sanctions on sale of oil at the time of the start of hostilities? Not counting the UN oil-for-bribes program, of course. You're sure it couldn't be that a) the supply of petroleum is finite and b) worldwide demand is increasing? todd The dollar is the de facto world reserve currency, the more dollars there are circulating outside the US, or invested by foreign owners in American assets, the more the rest of the world has to provide the US with goods and services in exchange for these dollars. If OPEC or Iraq were to decide to only accept euros for its oil then American economic dominance would be over. Not only would Europe not need as many dollars anymore, but Japan which imports over 80% of its oil from the Middle East, not to mention China, would think it wise to convert a large portion of its dollar assets to euro assets. America itself would also have to invest heavily in Euros in order to purchase oil. |
What's up with price of solvents?
"damian penney" wrote in message oups.com... If OPEC or Iraq were to decide to only accept euros for its oil then American economic dominance would be over. Not only would Europe not need as many dollars anymore, but Japan which imports over 80% of its oil from the Middle East, not to mention China, would think it wise to convert a large portion of its dollar assets to euro assets. America itself would also have to invest heavily in Euros in order to purchase oil. Of course you'll never trouble the conspiracy theorists with reality, but we import most of our oil from our hemisphere, or Africa.... Think that would devalue the dollar enough to make use competitive again? |
What's up with price of solvents?
"dadiOH" wrote in message news:tfUWf.11517$f21.3753@trnddc01... Look forward to $20 McDonald's hamburgers... I remember 12 cent burgers and seven cent fries. No wonder my kids call me old.... |
What's up with price of solvents?
"damian penney" wrote in message oups.com... It's called making sure the petroleum products stay 'controlled' in production by invading an oil-producing country which was threatening to sell lots of oil, cheap, for Euros. Oil companies want it that way...that is... if you want their campaign contributions.... All controlled by the Trilateral Commission. Or is it the Illuminati? Sorry, I'm a little behind on current kook theory. Why would it have been in Iraq's interest to sell at below the going rate? And wasn't Iraq still under UN sanctions on sale of oil at the time of the start of hostilities? Not counting the UN oil-for-bribes program, of course. You're sure it couldn't be that a) the supply of petroleum is finite and b) worldwide demand is increasing? todd The dollar is the de facto world reserve currency, the more dollars there are circulating outside the US, or invested by foreign owners in American assets, the more the rest of the world has to provide the US with goods and services in exchange for these dollars. If OPEC or Iraq were to decide to only accept euros for its oil then American economic dominance would be over. Not only would Europe not need as many dollars anymore, but Japan which imports over 80% of its oil from the Middle East, not to mention China, would think it wise to convert a large portion of its dollar assets to euro assets. America itself would also have to invest heavily in Euros in order to purchase oil. This is the must absurd thing I have ever heard...... the US doesn't even get the majority of it's oil from the Middle East. |
What's up with price of solvents?
If the Cost of Living is only going up 3-4% annually tell me where the
products are that are dropping drastically in price so that that kind of average can be true. In my life the cost of fuel and hospitalization are major fixed expenses. They've been rising more like 3-4% biweekly! TomNie |
What's up with price of solvents?
Tom Nie wrote:
If the Cost of Living is only going up 3-4% annually tell me where the products are that are dropping drastically in price so that that kind of average can be true. Computers, electronics, appliances, are all dropping in price. Chris |
What's up with price of solvents?
That's the CORE inflation rate. It excludes both food and energy costs.
-Doug ==================== "Tom Nie" wrote in message ... If the Cost of Living is only going up 3-4% annually tell me where the products are that are dropping drastically in price so that that kind of average can be true. In my life the cost of fuel and hospitalization are major fixed expenses. They've been rising more like 3-4% biweekly! TomNie |
What's up with price of solvents?
Chris Friesen wrote:
Tom Nie wrote: If the Cost of Living is only going up 3-4% annually tell me where the products are that are dropping drastically in price so that that kind of average can be true. Computers, electronics, appliances, are all dropping in price. Chris Woodworking equipment is going up, up, up. Compare prices in LV catalogs from the past few years. check the prices on the planes. At the rate they are going up, a little apron plane is gonna cost $150 soon. Dave |
What's up with price of solvents?
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"todd" wrote: All controlled by the Trilateral Commission. Or is it the Illuminati? Sorry, I'm a little behind on current kook theory. I can see that an intelligent discussion with you is highly unlikely. Why would it have been in Iraq's interest to sell at below the going rate? And wasn't Iraq still under UN sanctions on sale of oil at the time of the start of hostilities? Not counting the UN oil-for-bribes program, of course. You're sure it couldn't be that a) the supply of petroleum is finite and b) worldwide demand is increasing? The finger points at those who profit most. It always does. But I suppose you have your own ideas why Iraq was invaded? Please don't share them... I've heard them already. |
What's up with price of solvents?
tom wrote:
"What the market will bear." And, if you've paid those prices, you've reinforced their justification to sell at those prices. Tom As for the thinner I had no choice, but I walked on the fish. The toilet paper is debatable. |
What's up with price of solvents?
why would you include something as non-esensial as food or energy in the
core inflation rate it would just **** up the calculation then the govments figures would look bad "DouginUtah" wrote in message ... That's the CORE inflation rate. It excludes both food and energy costs. -Doug ==================== "Tom Nie" wrote in message ... If the Cost of Living is only going up 3-4% annually tell me where the products are that are dropping drastically in price so that that kind of average can be true. In my life the cost of fuel and hospitalization are major fixed expenses. They've been rising more like 3-4% biweekly! TomNie ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Robatoy" wrote in message
... In article , "todd" wrote: Why would it have been in Iraq's interest to sell at below the going rate? And wasn't Iraq still under UN sanctions on sale of oil at the time of the start of hostilities? Not counting the UN oil-for-bribes program, of course. You're sure it couldn't be that a) the supply of petroleum is finite and b) worldwide demand is increasing? The finger points at those who profit most. It always does. But I suppose you have your own ideas why Iraq was invaded? Please don't share them... I've heard them already. I thought the subject of this thread was about the price of solvents. If you want to have a discussion on the Iraq war, start a new thread. As for the increasing cost of petroleum-based products, my belief is that it has more to do with supply and demand than a global conspiracy. todd |
What's up with price of solvents?
todd wrote:
The finger points at those who profit most. It always does. But I suppose you have your own ideas why Iraq was invaded? Please don't share them... I've heard them already. I thought the subject of this thread was about the price of solvents.* If you want to have a discussion on the Iraq war, start a new thread.* As*for the increasing cost of petroleum-based products, my belief is that it has more to do with supply and demand than a global conspiracy. I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? -- It's turtles, all the way down |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? It would help if you understood that what you demand is not what counts. When someone offers $105 for one of those scarce widgets she's just got to have ... that's the one that counts. |
What's up with price of solvents?
Mike Marlow wrote:
"Seeker" wrote in message ... Went to our local Lowes/Home Depot yesterday to purchase a gallon of mineral spirits and lacquer thinner, WOW! what sticker shock MS= $8/gal LT= $13/gal, I bought last year at MS=$4, LT=$8. That's not all of it, went to Sams and again was hit with SS, fish has gone up 50% since one month ago, toilet paper seems to rise every trip to Sams at the tune of $1/bundle. I buy my solvents in bulk so I haven't seen the price increases. Haven't had to buy any for a while. You really might want to consider buying your lacquer thinner from autobody supply houses. I don't know what regional pricing difference may prevail, but around here a gallon on lacquer thinner was selling at around $9 at places like Ace Hardware and I was buying it in 5 gallon cans for $20-25 depending on which supplier I used. There is a big savings to be had by buying even as small a quantity as a 5 gallon can, versus buying it by the gallon. Thanks for the advice I will check Ace hardware and auto paint supply houses. |
What's up with price of solvents?
In article , "George" George@least
wrote: "Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? It would help if you understood that what you demand is not what counts. When someone offers $105 for one of those scarce widgets she's just got to have ... that's the one that counts. That's naive. What counts is the 'short-'n-curlies' syndrome. AKA greed. Drug dealers operate on the same principle. Get the user dependant then jack up the price. IOW.. it's the oil company shareholders who want a better ROI. Greed. Artificial shortages. Hoarding. As soon as supplying nations like Iraq, Iran or Venezuela want their fair share of profits to supply the demands of the SUV addicted, they get black-listed via the propaganda machines owned and operated by the cartels/PACs/campaign contributors. Especially when they chose to change their fiat currency to the Euro, in fact sinking the very thing that is holding up the US dollar. Then again, what-the-hell do I know. r |
What's up with price of solvents?
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:19:05 -0800, Larry Blanchard
wrote: I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? Among other reasons... --More revenue means growing capital more quickly in order to expand, something most businesses want to do. --More revenue means more that you're able to give away to your favorite cause. -- Chuck Taylor http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/ |
What's up with price of solvents?
Hello,
I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? Because it is the duty of a Corporation to maximize the shareholders investment. Greed (profit maximization) is the Corporate DNA and only intrinsic rule, all the other rules were imposed on the corporation by goverments who soon discovered that left to it's own, this "legal entity" would act as a sociopath and destroy everything around it. rent the movie: "The Corporation" for more information. cyrille |
What's up with price of solvents?
Hello,
--More revenue means growing capital more quickly in order to expand, something most businesses want to do. --More revenue means more that you're able to give away to your favorite cause. Yeah Right... I hear the same things from conservative who say "let non profit take care of social issues, if I paid less taxes, I would give more"... in reality, if you made, let's say an extra 10%, you would give only 5% more, (in best case scenario), but in the end, you get more money... Greed. cyrille |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... todd wrote: The finger points at those who profit most. It always does. But I suppose you have your own ideas why Iraq was invaded? Please don't share them... I've heard them already. I thought the subject of this thread was about the price of solvents. If you want to have a discussion on the Iraq war, start a new thread. As for the increasing cost of petroleum-based products, my belief is that it has more to do with supply and demand than a global conspiracy. I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. I didn't have to look at your headers to tell that you are not from the United States. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? You should price your product so your production capacity meets demand. Otherwise you are just giving away money. You are certainly free to do that, but if you are a public corporation, you should be fired if you do that. More profit also means you can expand capacity, therefore reducing your product cost long term while maximizing your profit. Making money is not a bad word. Make all you can, life is short. If you are trying to make too much, someone else will come in and sell your widget for less. That is the beauty of capitalism. |
What's up with price of solvents?
"damian penney" wrote in message oups.com... If OPEC or Iraq were to decide to only accept euros for its oil then American economic dominance would be over. Not likely as only 10% of our oil comes from the Middle East although the Middle East sets the prices for oil pretty much world wide. |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Tom Nie" wrote in message ... If the Cost of Living is only going up 3-4% annually tell me where the products are that are dropping drastically in price so that that kind of average can be true. COMPUTERS, Printers, Electronics in general, Automobiles, |
What's up with price of solvents?
Is viewing the movie "The Corporation" better than an
understanding of basic economics? Movies ALWAYS tell the truth. Don't they? Jack -- I'm not a complete idiot - several parts are missing. "Cyrille de Brébisson" wrote in message ... | Hello, | | I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a | synonym for greed. | | If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other | than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm | producing? | | Because it is the duty of a Corporation to maximize the shareholders | investment. | Greed (profit maximization) is the Corporate DNA and only intrinsic rule, | all the other rules were imposed on the corporation by goverments who soon | discovered that left to it's own, this "legal entity" would act as a | sociopath and destroy everything around it. | | rent the movie: "The Corporation" for more information. | | cyrille | | |
What's up with price of solvents?
"David" wrote in message . .. Woodworking equipment is going up, up, up. Compare prices in LV catalogs from the past few years. check the prices on the planes. At the rate they are going up, a little apron plane is gonna cost $150 soon. IMHO wood working tools are still a bargain. Wood working equipment is cheap compared to other equipment. Try to buy an air conditioning replacement part that is built with the precision of an LV plane and you will spend tons more. I think ww equipment is simply catching up. |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? So do you "not" have any money set aside for a rainy day or are you greedy? |
What's up with price of solvents?
Locutus wrote:
I didn't have to look at your headers to tell that you are not from the United States. BZZZZZZT! Wrong! -- It's turtles, all the way down |
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Leon wrote:
If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? So do you "not" have any money set aside for a rainy day or are you greedy? Did it not cross your mind that savings might have been included in that $100 price? -- It's turtles, all the way down |
What's up with price of solvents?
Leon wrote:
"David" wrote in message . .. Woodworking equipment is going up, up, up. Compare prices in LV catalogs from the past few years. check the prices on the planes. At the rate they are going up, a little apron plane is gonna cost $150 soon. IMHO wood working tools are still a bargain. Wood working equipment is cheap compared to other equipment. Try to buy an air conditioning replacement part that is built with the precision of an LV plane and you will spend tons more. I think ww equipment is simply catching up. yeah, but...room a/c's cost a heck of a lot less now than they did say 30 years ago. I just got an a/c for my shop of $139. One a bit bigger, back in 1971 was more than double that price. Plus, the new one has a remote. :) After my PG&E rebate, my out of pocket for my a/c was a mere $89+tax. Dave |
What's up with price of solvents?
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message ... todd wrote: The finger points at those who profit most. It always does. But I suppose you have your own ideas why Iraq was invaded? Please don't share them... I've heard them already. I thought the subject of this thread was about the price of solvents. If you want to have a discussion on the Iraq war, start a new thread. As for the increasing cost of petroleum-based products, my belief is that it has more to do with supply and demand than a global conspiracy. I get a little tired of hearing about "supply and demand" - just a synonym for greed. If I can make a good living selling widgets at $100 each, why, other than greed, should I increase my price if people want more than I'm producing? -- It's turtles, all the way down |
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