This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a glass
of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable it is

anyway, I am wondering about the clamps. With box frame corners I just
clamp horizontally. If I try that with mitered corners the top will
squeeze out. I suppose if I had big enough clamps I could but 1 each
way, but I imagine that trickery would be too much for me before the
glue hardener... What type of *new tool* to I need to support glueing /
clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without a new tool
that will work too)

__
Thanks again!



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

dnoyeB wrote:

This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a glass
of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable it is

anyway, I am wondering about the clamps. With box frame corners I just
clamp horizontally. If I try that with mitered corners the top will
squeeze out. I suppose if I had big enough clamps I could but 1 each
way, but I imagine that trickery would be too much for me before the
glue hardener... What type of *new tool* to I need to support glueing /
clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without a new tool
that will work too)

__
Thanks again!



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16


Have you got a band clamp? (and this one time, at band camp...)

dave

"dnoyeB" wrote in message
...
This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. ...
.... What type of *new tool* to I need to support glueing /
clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without a new tool
that will work too)

It is a difficult one.
The very best way I know to clamp mitred frames:

Glue, screw or nail little 45 degree blocks on the outside of the frame near
the joints so that you can put a g-cramp directly across the joint and press
it properly together.

Does that make sense? If not I will draw it and post it for you on the
pictures group.

Tim W

"Tim W" wrote in message
...

The very best way I know to clamp mitred frames:

Glue, screw or nail little 45 degree blocks on the outside of the frame
near
the joints so that you can put a g-cramp directly across the joint and
press
it properly together.

Does that make sense? If not I will draw it and post it for you on the
pictures group.

Actually I drew it anyway and posted it for you .
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
Subject - The surest way to cramp a mitred frame

Tim W

dnoyeB wrote:
This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a glass
of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable it is

anyway, I am wondering about the clamps. With box frame corners I just
clamp horizontally. If I try that with mitered corners the top will
squeeze out. I suppose if I had big enough clamps I could but 1 each
way, but I imagine that trickery would be too much for me before the
glue hardener... What type of *new tool* to I need to support glueing /
clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without a new tool
that will work too)

__
Thanks again!



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16
G'day,
I band clamp is the way to go, but you do not have to buy one. You can
make a simple, but very efficient one with a rope.

Tie a rope tightly around your frame.
Cut 8 pieces of timber
Place 2 in the centre of each side of the frame between it and the rope.
Now by sliding the pieces of timber towards the corners of the frame you
will apply tension.
Measure for square cnr to cnr on the frame and adjust the blocks
individualy to make you frame square.
This method was the only one available when I started cabinet making and
it works well. Although I have a band clamp I still revert to the rope
trick quite often
Hope this helps
regards
John

John B wrote:
dnoyeB wrote:

This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a
glass of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable
it is

anyway, I am wondering about the clamps. With box frame corners I
just clamp horizontally. If I try that with mitered corners the top
will squeeze out. I suppose if I had big enough clamps I could but 1
each way, but I imagine that trickery would be too much for me before
the glue hardener... What type of *new tool* to I need to support
glueing / clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without
a new tool that will work too)

__
Thanks again!



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes
9:16

G'day,
I band clamp is the way to go, but you do not have to buy one. You can
make a simple, but very efficient one with a rope.

Tie a rope tightly around your frame.
Cut 8 pieces of timber
Place 2 in the centre of each side of the frame between it and the rope.
Now by sliding the pieces of timber towards the corners of the frame you
will apply tension.
Measure for square cnr to cnr on the frame and adjust the blocks
individualy to make you frame square.
This method was the only one available when I started cabinet making and
it works well. Although I have a band clamp I still revert to the rope
trick quite often
Hope this helps
regards
John

wow, thats ingenious. I could pull that off. I may have a hard time
finding the rope. If the band clamp is not that cheap for the size box
im making (92" diagonal) then Ill use this technique. Thanks.

--
Thank you,



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:22:45 -0500, dnoyeB
wrote:

This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a glass
of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable it is

If you are gluing the mitered frame to your cabinet frame you don't
need to worry about the miters. Just clamp the pieces to the cabinet.
Once the first one is down you can snug the next up against it.


-Leuf

dnoyeB wrote:
This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a glass
of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable it is

anyway, I am wondering about the clamps. With box frame corners I just
clamp horizontally. If I try that with mitered corners the top will
squeeze out. I suppose if I had big enough clamps I could but 1 each
way, but I imagine that trickery would be too much for me before the
glue hardener... What type of *new tool* to I need to support glueing /
clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without a new tool
that will work too)

__
Thanks again!



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16


Looks like my best bet is to use a web clamp which I can get from lowes.
Only problem is the frame is about 80"x45" which is about 22'
circumference but the web clamp is only 15'. I wonder if I can find
some extra webbing at lowes. If I cant Ill use John B's technique.
Whats difference between a band clamp and a web clamp?

Second issue will be how to keep such a jumbo frame flat while I clamp
it. I don't even have a workbench yet. I suppose I could clamp it in
the driveway but im not excited about that technique. My wifes black
wooden table has become the defacto bench in the basement. She's slowly
starting to notice this, hehe. But this frame is bigger than this table.

maybe one of those old sheets of drywall in the garage 1 step away from
the trash will work out?

--
Thank you,



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:22:45 -0500, dnoyeB
wrote:

This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a glass
of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable it is

anyway, I am wondering about the clamps. With box frame corners I just
clamp horizontally. If I try that with mitered corners the top will
squeeze out. I suppose if I had big enough clamps I could but 1 each
way, but I imagine that trickery would be too much for me before the
glue hardener... What type of *new tool* to I need to support glueing /
clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without a new tool
that will work too)

__
Thanks again!



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16


I've used several types of corner clamps but my favorite frame clamp
is the type that uses 1/4" all thread with slip nuts and corner
brackets. Size is only limited by how long a piece of all thread you
can get.

Frank

dnoyeB wrote:
This time around I plan to create miter joints on the corners of my
stereo cabinet frame. I will also be creating a frame for a projector
screen and I plan to miter that as well. Not sure why since you cant
see it, but I got this miter saw so I'll get my wife to bring me a glass
of water while the wood is on the saw illustrating how valuable it is

anyway, I am wondering about the clamps. With box frame corners I just
clamp horizontally. If I try that with mitered corners the top will
squeeze out. I suppose if I had big enough clamps I could but 1 each
way, but I imagine that trickery would be too much for me before the
glue hardener... What type of *new tool* to I need to support glueing /
clamping these corners up? (admitedly if I can do it without a new tool
that will work too)


Spring clamps:
URL:http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/clamps_vises/maestro/m1201_clamp-all.htm?L+coastest+vczq1810ff663466+1143831518

Another option:
URL:http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10401&cookietest=1


JES