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![]() Just a quick question and forgive me if it annoys you, how deep into the wood should a screw go? A 1/3 of the width of the wood? 2/3s? Thanks and many regards. |
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Just a quick question and forgive me if it annoys you, how deep into the wood should a screw go? A 1/3 of the width of the wood? 2/3s? The correct answer is "deep enough". All depends on what you're screwing to what. You're looking for a one size fits all answer and there is no such thing. Joe Barta |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Just a quick question and forgive me if it annoys you, how deep into the wood should a screw go? A 1/3 of the width of the wood? 2/3s? Thanks and many regards. Most screw manufacturers say 1/3 of the screw in the top piece, 2/3's of the screw in the bottom piece. |
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actually everything about any screw you can buy is predetermined. I read
Machinerys Handbook. There are pages upon pages of indexes on everything you could want to know. Its a book about a book. Then its a book. There are no surprises in fasteners. Its just easier if you can just pick up one screw that ain't gonna do it and if you have a basic knowledge you can count the ways to get where you are going. You can shop at HD without moving your feet. But the calculations! You ask. It gives. Before you can ask. Its not big onn wood though, there is a bit of info. I'm not looking. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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whats really intersting though isn't recognising that there is a 1/2"
unthreaded shoulder on all screws from e to f lengths, 3/8" before, 3/4" after, none here, etc. but being about to recognize where the potential breaks are. Where logic makes a U-turn - it is natural - I sold screws for a while. This Q isn't rocket science. But you bettter beieve that it is. You could literaly spend the rest of your life gathering info - and yes, you would need a genius IQ just to even think about it. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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![]() Brian Henderson wrote: On 24 Feb 2006 16:35:06 -0800, wrote: Just a quick question and forgive me if it annoys you, how deep into the wood should a screw go? The only real answer is "deep enough to do the job". I agree. Whenever I screw I bury the wood entir...err...forget it. JP |
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A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw.
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On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-4, jboisver wrote:
A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. I need to hang some 1/4 luan on a 6 x 12 beam. I guess I need a 6 screw. Oh...wait...the bottom piece will be the luan. I only need a 1/8 screw. |
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On Wed, 5 May 2021 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-4, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. I need to hang some 1/4 luan on a 6 x 12 beam. I guess I need a 6 screw. Oh...wait...the bottom piece will be the luan. I only need a 1/8 screw. A 1/2" screw for 1/4" material is bad enough. |
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On Wed, 05 May 2021 20:10:52 -0500, Markem618
wrote: On Wed, 05 May 2021 20:33:05 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2021 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-4, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. I need to hang some 1/4 luan on a 6 x 12 beam. I guess I need a 6 screw. Oh...wait...the bottom piece will be the luan. I only need a 1/8 screw. A 1/2" screw for 1/4" material is bad enough. How about "just few nails to tack it in place till the glue dries" for the luan. How about not using luan on a ceiling. |
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On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 8:33:11 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2021 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-4, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. I need to hang some 1/4 luan on a 6 x 12 beam. I guess I need a 6 screw. Oh...wait...the bottom piece will be the luan. I only need a 1/8 screw. A 1/2" screw for 1/4" material is bad enough. Tom Silva suggests... "e. To determine the appropriate size screw to use for a project, take the thickness of the material being attached and pick a screw thats roughly 2.5x that." https://www.thisoldhouse.com/2109718...-decode-screws |
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On 5/5/2021 8:50 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 8:33:11 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2021 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-4, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. I need to hang some 1/4 luan on a 6 x 12 beam. I guess I need a 6 screw. Oh...wait...the bottom piece will be the luan. I only need a 1/8 screw. A 1/2" screw for 1/4" material is bad enough. Tom Silva suggests... "e. To determine the appropriate size screw to use for a project, take the thickness of the material being attached and pick a screw thats roughly 2.5x that." https://www.thisoldhouse.com/2109718...-decode-screws So a screw into 3/4" material attached to another 3/4" material should be 1-7/8" long? LOL I replied to the first guy, but should have added not longer than 3 times the thickness of the material to be attached. |
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On Wed, 5 May 2021 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-4, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. I need to hang some 1/4 luan on a 6 x 12 beam. I guess I need a 6 screw. Oh...wait...the bottom piece will be the luan. I only need a 1/8 screw. Good one. .... I guess that good-rule-of-thumb was just pushed into the table saw blade ! :-) John T. |
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Just Wondering wrote in :
*snip* Up to a certain point, I just want my screws short enough that their points don't protrude. *snip* YES! Especially you model railroaders out there. Please don't let that point protude! Someone might have to maintain your work one day. Screws are cheap and last forever if you don't use them. If you've got space, buy 25-lb boxes of the sizes you use most and 5-lb boxes of the ones you use less frequently. Have the right size on hand and you'll never have to use the wrong one. Puckdropper |
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On 5/5/2021 3:45 PM, jboisver wrote:
A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. Actually the rule of thumb is close to 2/3's of the thickness of the bottom piece plus the thickness of the top piece. 1" on to 2", use a 2.25 ~ 2.5" screw. In normal measurements where the 1x is 3/4" and the 2x is 1.5" use a 1.75" screw. |
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On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:04:07 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 5/5/2021 3:45 PM, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. Actually the rule of thumb is close to 2/3's of the thickness of the bottom piece plus the thickness of the top piece. OK, again assuming the 6" wall and 1/2" sheetrock, you're going to use 4-1/2" screws? The electrician and plumber aren't going to like you. 1" on to 2", use a 2.25 ~ 2.5" screw. In normal measurements where the 1x is 3/4" and the 2x is 1.5" use a 1.75" screw. |
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On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 12:47:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:04:07 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 5/5/2021 3:45 PM, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. Actually the rule of thumb is close to 2/3's of the thickness of the bottom piece plus the thickness of the top piece. OK, again assuming the 6" wall and 1/2" sheetrock, you're going to use 4-1/2" screws? The electrician and plumber aren't going to like you. If the electrician's and plumber's work is impacted by the hanging of drywall, then it's their own fault. They missed a step. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LiO6RxYomJI/mqdefault.jpg |
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On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 12:47:35 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:04:07 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 5/5/2021 3:45 PM, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. Actually the rule of thumb is close to 2/3's of the thickness of the bottom piece plus the thickness of the top piece. OK, again assuming the 6" wall and 1/2" sheetrock, you're going to use 4-1/2" screws? The electrician and plumber aren't going to like you. If the electrician's and plumber's work is impacted by the hanging of drywall, then it's their own fault. They missed a step. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LiO6RxYomJI/mqdefault.jpg With 4-1/2" screws in a 6" wall there are going to be problems that aren't the plumber's or electrician's fault. The rocker may not be around to blame, though. |
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On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 12:47:35 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2021 10:04:07 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 5/5/2021 3:45 PM, jboisver wrote: A good rule of thumb is that the screw should drive through to about half the thickness of the bottom piece. So a 1" thick piece being screwed to a 2" thick piece should have a 2" screw. Actually the rule of thumb is close to 2/3's of the thickness of the bottom piece plus the thickness of the top piece. OK, again assuming the 6" wall and 1/2" sheetrock, you're going to use 4-1/2" screws? The electrician and plumber aren't going to like you. If the electrician's and plumber's work is impacted by the hanging of drywall, then it's their own fault. They missed a step. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LiO6RxYomJI/mqdefault.jpg A few sheet-rockers found out the hard way not to cover Merv's boxes!!! After a few weeks on a project using his magnet box finder and keyhole saw to find the hidden boxes and numerous warnings he resorted to the Estwing box finder. When they had to replace repair about 14 sheets of drywall in a single house they learned how to cut their drywall to keep the boxes open!!! (a subdivision of 35 or so good sized homes) |
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