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gov January 30th 06 10:08 PM

Rough Cut Lumber
 
I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.

Thanks in advance.

TIM


Josh January 30th 06 10:25 PM

Rough Cut Lumber
 
If you have a bandsaw, you can resaw 5/4 lumber down to 1/2" or so. If
it's fairly narrow ( 6"), you can do it on a table saw with several
passes and a good rip blade, but it's a huge pain. Bigger kerf, too.


Toller January 31st 06 12:32 AM

Rough Cut Lumber
 

"Josh" wrote in message
ups.com...
If you have a bandsaw, you can resaw 5/4 lumber down to 1/2" or so. If
it's fairly narrow ( 6"), you can do it on a table saw with several
passes and a good rip blade, but it's a huge pain. Bigger kerf, too.

I've cut a lot of 1/2" from 5/4 on my tablesaw. It is not all that much
trouble.



George January 31st 06 11:50 AM

Rough Cut Lumber
 

"gov" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.


You're right, it is a waste of wood, but when someone else does it, it's
your money anyway, so they just include the cost in with the value added.

Others have covered the alternatives. You can resaw or use the extra
thickness as an attached shoe molding by choosing your shaper profile
carefully. It may not conform as well to irregularities in the wall, but
nobody looks there anyway.



[email protected] January 31st 06 04:28 PM

Rough Cut Lumber
 

George wrote:
"gov" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.


You're right, it is a waste of wood, but when someone else does it, it's
your money anyway, so they just include the cost in with the value added.

Others have covered the alternatives. You can resaw or use the extra
thickness as an attached shoe molding by choosing your shaper profile
carefully. It may not conform as well to irregularities in the wall, but
nobody looks there anyway.


Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
these boards down or waste the lumber.

Thanks


George January 31st 06 08:48 PM

Rough Cut Lumber
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
these boards down or waste the lumber.


Rarely, if ever. Cutting below 3/4" - planes to ~1/2" - starts to get
expensive when you figure the extra waste from saw kerfs so close together.
Not as bad now as the IC circular saws that took a quarter inch, but bad
enough. You start to get squirm problems and possible splitting of the
board from its own weight if you go below that.



no(SPAM)vasys February 1st 06 02:52 AM

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wrote:



Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
these boards down or waste the lumber.

Thanks



It depends on the mill.

My supplier sells thin stock at 1/32", 1/16", 1/8", 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2"
but it's expensive. For example 1/2" red oak figures out to $4.20 per
board foot. 1/32 red oak figures out to just under $54 per board foot.

Gag! 1/32" ebony figures out to about $730 bd/ft.

You're paying for the lumber plus the mills time, wear & tear on the
machinery, and loses due to checking, cupping, etc.

Personally, I'll plane 4/4 down as needed before I'd pay the price for
thinner stock.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

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jack February 1st 06 04:59 AM

Rough Cut Lumber
 
checkout woodmastertools.com for a four in one molder/planer, even has a
curved molding setup. Very nice machine.....
wrote in message
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George wrote:
"gov" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.


You're right, it is a waste of wood, but when someone else does it, it's
your money anyway, so they just include the cost in with the value added.

Others have covered the alternatives. You can resaw or use the extra
thickness as an attached shoe molding by choosing your shaper profile
carefully. It may not conform as well to irregularities in the wall, but
nobody looks there anyway.


Thanks to those who have responded. Does anyone know if they cut
boards in 1/2 or 5/8 or even 3/4? Otherwise the alternative is to rip
these boards down or waste the lumber.

Thanks




February 1st 06 11:52 AM

Rough Cut Lumber
 
"gov" wrote:
I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.

Thanks in advance.

TIM


Rough cut lumber is sold as 4/4 minimun. which is 1 1/16" to 1 1/8"
So even if you bought 2/4, you are charged for 4/4 plus machining.
This is why resawing is so popular for the hobbiest IMO


[email protected] February 3rd 06 08:51 PM

Rough Cut Lumber
 
Thanks again to all who have replied.

I guess resawing is it.

Thanks


tdevery wrote:
"gov" wrote:
I'm new to this group so please be patient if this has been covered.
I'm looking into purchasing a molder/planer. The biggest project is
for casing/base molding. I see rough cut lumber that is all 4/4 or
thicker. Where do I go to find 1/2 to 5/8" lumber or is most of this
cut from 4/4. Seems like a lot of waste both lumber and money.

Thanks in advance.

TIM


Rough cut lumber is sold as 4/4 minimun. which is 1 1/16" to 1 1/8"
So even if you bought 2/4, you are charged for 4/4 plus machining.
This is why resawing is so popular for the hobbiest IMO




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