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Rudy Fichtenbaum January 18th 06 12:59 AM

question about ripping
 
Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?

Rudy

Seeker January 18th 06 02:10 AM

question about ripping
 
Possible that side of the blade is damaged.

www January 18th 06 03:23 AM

question about ripping
 

"Rudy Fichtenbaum" wrote in message
m...
Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?

Rudy


The offcut side has no other support to keep it steady/aligned and may move
in and out against the blade slightly as you make the cut giving a rough
edge perhaps?


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stoutman January 18th 06 03:59 AM

question about ripping
 
"Rudy Fichtenbaum" wrote in message
m...
Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and the
fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade is
always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?

Rudy


Blade alignment?? Low quality blade??

Watch this video (i found it useful anyway...)

http://www.ts-aligner.com/tablesaw.htm

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klaatu January 18th 06 12:08 PM

question about ripping
 
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:59:54 GMT, Rudy Fichtenbaum
wrote:

Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?

Rudy

Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.


klaatu January 18th 06 01:48 PM

question about ripping
 
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:21:40 -0600, Chris Friesen
wrote:

klaatu wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:59:54 GMT, Rudy Fichtenbaum
wrote:

Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?


Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.


How the heck could having a General be the problem?

Chris

Chris, I have a General contractor saw 50-185L M1.
The arbor bracket pn 50175 is not machined corrrectly.
The bearing holes and pivot hole are not parrallel. So the
blade goes out of allignment when raising or lowering.
If the blade is in allignment when set at 1" depth of cut, it will
angle over to left at 3" depth of cut. If Rudy has the same condition
the back of the blade will cut on the back side and give the described
rough cut.



Leon January 18th 06 02:30 PM

question about ripping
 

"Rudy Fichtenbaum" wrote in message
m...
Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and the
fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade is
always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?

Rudy


Dead on parallel, as in better than .001? Are you using a feather board
"IN FRONT" of the blade? Are you using a Splitter? Does this happen with
other types of wood? Are you using a premium quality blade?



George January 18th 06 05:03 PM

question about ripping
 

"www" wrote in message
u...

"Rudy Fichtenbaum" wrote in message
m...
Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?

Rudy


The offcut side has no other support to keep it steady/aligned and may
move
in and out against the blade slightly as you make the cut giving a rough
edge perhaps?


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Regards,

Dean Bielanowski
Editor,
Online Tool Reviews
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com


The right answer. If it's not being firmly held, it vibrates in and out of
the tooth pattern.

Of course, part of the problem could be your feed rate and push direction as
well.



Chris Friesen January 18th 06 09:21 PM

question about ripping
 
klaatu wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:59:54 GMT, Rudy Fichtenbaum
wrote:

Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?


Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.


How the heck could having a General be the problem?

Chris

Chris Friesen January 19th 06 03:42 AM

question about ripping
 
klaatu wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:21:40 -0600, Chris Friesen
wrote:


klaatu wrote:
Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.


How the heck could having a General be the problem?


Chris, I have a General contractor saw 50-185L M1.


Technically you have a General International saw, not a General saw.

GI also makes many other saws, so does General.

Given that there are *many* people that have your saw and don't
experience the same problem, it's likely not a design issue with that
particular saw or that particular manufacturer.

That said, I would certainly consider it a defect in your saw. Have you
talked to GI and described your problem?

Chris

Charles Self January 19th 06 11:56 AM

question about ripping
 
"George" George@least wrote in message
...

"www" wrote in message
u...

"Rudy Fichtenbaum" wrote in message
m...
Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?

Rudy


The offcut side has no other support to keep it steady/aligned and may
move
in and out against the blade slightly as you make the cut giving a rough
edge perhaps?


--
--
Regards,

Dean Bielanowski
Editor,
Online Tool Reviews
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com


The right answer. If it's not being firmly held, it vibrates in and out
of the tooth pattern.

Of course, part of the problem could be your feed rate and push direction
as well.


A featherboard might help, too.



Bugs January 19th 06 02:05 PM

question about ripping
 
The arbor bracket pn 50175 is not machined corrrectly.
The bearing holes and pivot hole are not parrallel

I agree. Need to check the mechanism for alignment at all settings. The
blade must be exactly parallel with the table slots and at a perfect
right angle to the table top to saw correctly, otherwise the trailing
edge of the blade will make the cut ragged. Sort of visualize pushing a
Skilsaw through a board while cocking the saw right or left. Makes a
really lousy cut.
Bugs


George January 19th 06 03:16 PM

question about ripping
 

"Bugs" wrote in message
oups.com...
The arbor bracket pn 50175 is not machined corrrectly.

The bearing holes and pivot hole are not parrallel

I agree. Need to check the mechanism for alignment at all settings. The
blade must be exactly parallel with the table slots and at a perfect
right angle to the table top to saw correctly, otherwise the trailing
edge of the blade will make the cut ragged. Sort of visualize pushing a
Skilsaw through a board while cocking the saw right or left. Makes a
really lousy cut.


Well, minor point, but if the fenced side's smooth, as the OP said, it
isn't anything you guys are discussing. It's the stock, not the blade
under those circumstances.



Rudy Fichtenbaum January 20th 06 03:58 AM

question about ripping
 
I have a Jet cabinet saw with a Forrest Woodworker II Blade and I have
check the blade alignment with the table saw aligner Jr.

Rudy


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