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Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
A few weeks ago I had inquired about a sled for a planer to flatten rough
sawn stock with a planer. A poster was gracious enough to send me copies of the FWW plans and article. Since then I have received my new Delta 15" planer with the deluxe stand that has the 4 roller in feed and 4 roller out feed tables. I built the sled almost exactly as the instructions call for except I made the sled 8' long instead of 5' long. I can say that I am quite pleased with the results that I am getting when flattening 100-102" boards. It is not as easy as simply feeding the board through the planer as you need to make sure that you do not let the board move around on the sled while carrying it from the out feed side back to the in feed side. The adhesive backed tape that you put on stair steps to prevent slipping, added to the adjustable supports, hold the board quite well. Plus there is the weight consideration. The sled at least doubles the weight of the board that you feeding into the planer and it is best to take lighter passes until you have the top side flattened. AND those Oak boards that I usually buy that come 13/16" thick have now grown to almost 5/4 in thickness. Typically the 4/4 rough sawn Oak that I purchased is a minimum of 1-1/8" thick so these boards are almost 40% heavier than the s3s stock I have been buying. The big plus side is that I am getting at least 7/8" thick stock surfaced on both sides. So having boards coming out of the planer flat enough that I can straighten the edges on the TS with another jig with no burning of the edge caused by the stock rocking, I can say that I am quite happy with the sled. 6 boards behind me and 40 to go. |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
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"Leon" wrote: So having boards coming out of the planer flat enough that I can straighten the edges on the TS with another jig with no burning of the edge caused by the stock rocking, I can say that I am quite happy with the sled. 40 more to go? Must be some big footlocker you're building. *G* With those massive in/out-feed rollers, you basically have built yourself an up-side down 15" jointer. What a great application of a great device. Nice to have all those ponies at your disposal, eh? A couple of these will be very helpful as well, Leon: http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=293&ID=11829 |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
"Robatoy" wrote in message ... 40 more to go? Must be some big footlocker you're building. *G* Firewood. I dont like to get splinters in my hands while feeding the fireplace. :~) Actually I thought that the first test piece would end up being firewood. Fortunately it ended up being used in a small job that I am about to complete. With those massive in/out-feed rollers, you basically have built yourself an up-side down 15" jointer. Yeah! I was shopping bigger jointers and thought the sled would save a load of money to buy more wood with. What a great application of a great device. Nice to have all those ponies at your disposal, eh? The extra HP is wonderful. I had 3 bords glued up to for a 15" wide panel for the above mentioned project. That panel just fit in the planer. You know, even with a very shallow cut you get a heap of saw dust when you run 15" through. As you mentioned, the planer is MUCH quieter. I can actually tolerate running it with out hearing protection although I did this just for compairison. A couple of these will be very helpful as well, Leon: http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=293&ID=11829 Yeah. that looks pretty cool. It looks like it collapses down to a very small space. I actually did end up buying a Craftsman roller stand for $15. I could not go wrong and it works fine. When taking the sled from the out feed end to the in feed end I have to set it down so that I can adjust the cutting depth for the next pass. I was setting it down on a work table, adjusting, picking the sled up and going back to the planer. Now I can simply set it down on the in feed side of the planer planer. |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:43:27 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: A few weeks ago I had inquired about a sled for a planer to flatten rough sawn stock with a planer. A poster was gracious enough to send me copies of the FWW plans and article. Since then I have received my new Delta 15" planer with the deluxe stand that has the 4 roller in feed and 4 roller out feed tables. I built the sled almost exactly as the instructions call for except I made the sled 8' long instead of 5' long. I can say that I am quite pleased with the results that I am getting when flattening 100-102" boards. It is not as easy as simply feeding the board through the planer as you need to make sure that you do not let the board move around on the sled while carrying it from the out feed side back to the in feed side. The adhesive backed tape that you put on stair steps to prevent slipping, added to the adjustable supports, hold the board quite well. Plus there is the weight consideration. The sled at least doubles the weight of the board that you feeding into the planer and it is best to take lighter passes until you have the top side flattened. AND those Oak boards that I usually buy that come 13/16" thick have now grown to almost 5/4 in thickness. Typically the 4/4 rough sawn Oak that I purchased is a minimum of 1-1/8" thick so these boards are almost 40% heavier than the s3s stock I have been buying. The big plus side is that I am getting at least 7/8" thick stock surfaced on both sides. So having boards coming out of the planer flat enough that I can straighten the edges on the TS with another jig with no burning of the edge caused by the stock rocking, I can say that I am quite happy with the sled. 6 boards behind me and 40 to go. might you be so graciouse as to pass those plans along? i just got my new 20" planer set up and a nice sled may be in order soon.. the addy is fartntouchit at hotmail dot com. skeez |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
"skeezics" wrote in message
might you be so graciouse as to pass those plans along? Likewise, if you can do it comfortably ... you should have the e-mail address. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/13/05 |
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"Leon" wrote: You know, even with a very shallow cut you get a heap of saw dust when you run 15" through. When dressing lumber, I would disconnect the DC from that puppy and just let'r fly. A broom and a bunch of garbage bags were MUCH quicker than undoing the DC and all that rot. |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:10:16 GMT, skeezics wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:43:27 GMT, "Leon" wrote: A few weeks ago I had inquired about a sled for a planer to flatten rough sawn stock with a planer. A poster was gracious enough to send me copies of the FWW plans and article. Since then I have received my new Delta 15" planer with the deluxe stand that has the 4 roller in feed and 4 roller out feed tables. I built the sled almost exactly as the instructions call for except I made the sled 8' long instead of 5' long. I can say that I am quite pleased with the results that I am getting when flattening 100-102" boards. It is not as easy as simply feeding the board through the planer as you need to make sure that you do not let the board move around on the sled while carrying it from the out feed side back to the in feed side. The adhesive backed tape that you put on stair steps to prevent slipping, added to the adjustable supports, hold the board quite well. Plus there is the weight consideration. The sled at least doubles the weight of the board that you feeding into the planer and it is best to take lighter passes until you have the top side flattened. AND those Oak boards that I usually buy that come 13/16" thick have now grown to almost 5/4 in thickness. Typically the 4/4 rough sawn Oak that I purchased is a minimum of 1-1/8" thick so these boards are almost 40% heavier than the s3s stock I have been buying. The big plus side is that I am getting at least 7/8" thick stock surfaced on both sides. So having boards coming out of the planer flat enough that I can straighten the edges on the TS with another jig with no burning of the edge caused by the stock rocking, I can say that I am quite happy with the sled. 6 boards behind me and 40 to go. might you be so graciouse as to pass those plans along? i just got my new 20" planer set up and a nice sled may be in order soon.. the addy is fartntouchit at hotmail dot com. skeez thanks leon. skeez |
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Glad it work for you too Leon. Did you make your own torsion box or use
a door? Later, H |
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Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
"skeezics" wrote in message
might you be so graciouse as to pass those plans along? If it's not too much of a bother, I'd like to get a set of those plans as well. Mark |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... In article , "Leon" wrote: You know, even with a very shallow cut you get a heap of saw dust when you run 15" through. When dressing lumber, I would disconnect the DC from that puppy and just let'r fly. A broom and a bunch of garbage bags were MUCH quicker than undoing the DC and all that rot. Umm My dust collector stays unconnected all of the time. I do not use one yet. I figure until I can afford the space for a large one that a small one may be more work. I see that your advice parallels my thinking. Thanks for the back up thinking. |
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"hylourgos" wrote in message oups.com... Glad it work for you too Leon. Did you make your own torsion box or use a door? Later, H Yes it works great and thanks again for the plans. I strongly considered the door but ended up building the heavier torsion box. I am almost always flattening 8' or a bit longer boards and felt that the extra 16 or so inches in length would be beneficial. |
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"J T" wrote in message ... Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 5:43am (EST+5) (Leon) doth sled in with: snip The adhesive backed tape that you put on stair steps to prevent slipping, added to the adjustable supports, hold the board quite well. snip I don't like tape for that myself, so I'd prefer wedging it in place. But, that's me. I use the tape to keep the wedges from moving and to keep the supports from moving. Very effective. |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
Hello Leon,
Would could you please send a copy of those plans here too? Can you also reference which issue of FWW it appeared in? Thanks, Marc |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
"Leon" wrote in message t... "Robatoy" wrote in message ... When dressing lumber, I would disconnect the DC from that puppy and just let'r fly. A broom and a bunch of garbage bags were MUCH quicker than undoing the DC and all that rot. Umm My dust collector stays unconnected all of the time. I do not use one yet. I figure until I can afford the space for a large one that a small one may be more work. I see that your advice parallels my thinking. Thanks for the back up thinking. You're going to end up with chip impressions rolled in your stock if you're not careful. Worse, depending on climate, you could end up with static cling on the shavings that will force you to have someone on the outfeed side with a stick to dislodge the mess. Never plane white cedar in the winter! Get the trashcan stage and let the air be your stick. MUCH better option. Doesn't take much, you know. Mine's a 450 CFM rated and does famously. |
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Ihave a powermatic 15" planer with four infeed and outfeed roller. BE
VERY CAREFUL ON THE OUTFEED SIDE. I foolishly dropped something and put my hand on one of the rollers as i bent over to pick up the wood and the wood i was planing hit my finges and fortunately i was able to pull them out without breaking or losing one of them. I have sinced changed to a solid cast set of tables. joe |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
"George" George@least wrote in message ... You're going to end up with chip impressions rolled in your stock if you're not careful. I have not had a problem with the impessions since buying a planer 1989 and have not had a problem with that with the new Delta planer. I did have once instance however with the impressions with my first board in the new palner as the collector with the 4" hole in it for the hose that connects to a dust collector was not permitting the shavings to flow freely. I removed that adapter and the shavings now flow freely out of the planer and the problem has been cured. Worse, depending on climate, you could end up with static cling on the shavings that will force you to have someone on the outfeed side with a stick to dislodge the mess. That was the problem with having the collector adapter on there with no dusto collector. With out the adapter there is no problem. Never plane white cedar in the winter! Get the trashcan stage and let the air be your stick. MUCH better option. Doesn't take much, you know. Mine's a 450 CFM rated and does famously. I am not so concerned about the CFM volume as the storage capacity of the dust collector. My trash container will hold 4 to 5 times the storage capacity of most small collector bags. IIRC it is 80 gallons. It is not unusual for me to have a pile of saw dust that would fill the typical 30 gallon trash can 2 or 3 times in one usage. I have played with the idea of sending the saw dust straight into the 80 gallon trash can but getting a good seal on a square and uneven edged can may present a problem. So far I am still more in favor of sweeping up a large pile of saw dust than emptying a trash can or collector bag 2 to 4 times during a particular run. |
Flattening Rough Sawn Lumber With A Planer
"joe" wrote in message ups.com... Ihave a powermatic 15" planer with four infeed and outfeed roller. BE VERY CAREFUL ON THE OUTFEED SIDE. I foolishly dropped something and put my hand on one of the rollers as i bent over to pick up the wood and the wood i was planing hit my finges and fortunately i was able to pull them out without breaking or losing one of them. I have sinced changed to a solid cast set of tables. joe Thanks for the warning but I already had that in mind when shopping. The Delta in feed and out feed tables are actually steel tables with 4 slots cut into them just large enough for the rollers to protrude through. The largest gap any where in the tables is about 1/8" wide. |
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Leon (in ) said:
snip | So far I am still more in | favor of sweeping up a large pile of saw dust than emptying a trash | can or collector bag 2 to 4 times during a particular run. I keep an old snow shovel handy - the large aluminum blade makes cleanup quick and easy. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message ... Leon (in ) said: snip | So far I am still more in | favor of sweeping up a large pile of saw dust than emptying a trash | can or collector bag 2 to 4 times during a particular run. I keep an old snow shovel handy - the large aluminum blade makes cleanup quick and easy. Darn it Morris, my dad and I share a plastic construction clean up shovel that measures about 20 x24 and I just bought a large HD aluminum dust pan Saturday. Why did you go and remind me to use a shovel. LOL. |
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"J T" wrote in message ... Mon, Jan 16, 2006, 1:23am (EST+5) (Leon) doth sayeth: I use the tape to keep the wedges from moving and to keep the supports from moving. Very effective. Can't argue with someting that works. I just don't like cleaning up after tape, or rubber cement. Which is why I used the cam clamps on my sled - they do the job, and no mess. But, that sled's served it's purpose, time to go larger, and a bit more sophisticated. Maybe even paint the next one. LMAO There is nothing to clean up. No glue. The non slip material has a lining that you peal off and then you stick the tape on. I pulled the lining of and laid the wood supports and wedges side by side on the tape and then used a utility knife to cut the tape between all the pieces. |
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Er yuh giben me pernissin to e-mail uh JT. LOL
Its in its way. "J T" wrote in message ... Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 4:30pm (Mark Jacobs) also asketh: If it's not too much of a bother, I'd like to get a set of those plans as well. Might's well put me on the list too. Might wind up easer just posting them. JOAT If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about Hilary Clinton. |
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"J T" wrote in message
Once I figured out the pictures were just upside down, I turned my screen back right-side-up, and printed them out, to look at them - worked much better that way. Jeeez, all that trouble for nothing ... next time just rotate the printer. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/13/05 |
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"J T" wrote in message ... And, I didn't even send a nasty reply. LOL Thanks. For some reason in some of the pictures, they guy was hanging from the ceiling. Once I figured out the pictures were just upside down, I turned my screen back right-side-up, and printed them out, to look at them - worked much better that way. Looks like I can use a feature or two. Thanks. Huh... You turned you monitor over to see the pictures right side up and silly me stood on my head. :~) Perhaps that adhesive backed stair step material looks a little simpler now. The trick is to stick all the wood pieces down on the tape next to each other and then cut them apart with a utility knife. |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... "J T" wrote in message Once I figured out the pictures were just upside down, I turned my screen back right-side-up, and printed them out, to look at them - worked much better that way. Jeeez, all that trouble for nothing ... next time just rotate the printer. Naw just put the paper in backwards. |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:19:56 -0500, (J T)
wrote: Tue, Jan 17, 2006, 12:41am (EST+5) (skeezics) doth advisith: DONT DO THAT!!!!! you may never stand upright again and if ya tips over you could wind up with you head up yur ars!! lmao..... but then SWMBO say thats where i keep mine most of the time! :-} I'd reply to that, except for two reasons. One, that went over my head. Two, my reply would probably be obscene. Two, my response would obviously go over your head.. And, I can't remember the other reply. JOAT If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about Hilary Clinton. hehehehehehe. i was gonna email it but...... lol. skeez |
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"J T" wrote in message ... Mon, Jan 16, 2006, 11:05pm (EST+5) (Leon) now claims: Naw just put the paper in backwards. Sure, "now" you tell me. And, after I wasted all that paper. Huh. I did finally look the pages over. Some good stuff. I'll base my next planer sled on that. Of course, I will have to make just one or two very minor changes to it, mostly cosmetic, to make it suitable for my use. It won't be quite as long, probably not quite as wide, won't use the bungee cord, wedges, etc. Otherwise, it'll be exactly the same. Can you imagine it? - I'll actually be working from plans. and following them. I never thought the day would happen. Amazing. And, you're the one that made it all possible. If you do a version of this sled I would like to see it. Oddly I changed very little also on this set of plans. Basically mine is longer and while contemplating the construction of this sled and after using I have not thought of any improvements that would make it better and not slow down the adjustment process. Oh yeah, my planer has 2 rollers on the table under the cutter head so it was not necessary to put the plastic laminate on the bottom of the sled. Mine has a wood bottom surface. |
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If you can see your way to it, I'd love a copy of the plans as well!!!
Trace Wilson traceDOTwilsonATtracewisonDOTcom |
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