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Craftsman Hand Tools
Does anyone know who makes Craftsman hand tools - i.e. wrenches and socket
sets, etc. Do they manufactur them or re-brand another mfg's product. The packages all say "Made in the USA". |
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The sockets are made by Danaher. I'm not sure about the wrenches. With
that said, I've been very unhappy with both. "James Stewart" wrote in message ... Does anyone know who makes Craftsman hand tools - i.e. wrenches and socket sets, etc. Do they manufactur them or re-brand another mfg's product. The packages all say "Made in the USA". |
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Sears is a retailer, not a manufacturer. The three-digit prefix before
the model number on each Sears-branded item indicates who made it. Here's a list of the codes: http://www.owwm.com/Craftsman/Manufacturers-Name.asp |
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Then buy the Craftsman line, not the other **** line that you must be
associating with Craftsman. Their hand tools are excellent and a great value. The replacement policy is great and the selection is too. I used them as a mechanic for many many years and only replaced 5-6 at the very most. Still use them and still have them. You sound like one of the typical tool gatherers who frequent this forum and do nothing but bitch about Sears products. John AL wrote: The sockets are made by Danaher. I'm not sure about the wrenches. With that said, I've been very unhappy with both. "James Stewart" wrote in message ... Does anyone know who makes Craftsman hand tools - i.e. wrenches and socket sets, etc. Do they manufactur them or re-brand another mfg's product. The packages all say "Made in the USA". |
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the model numbers on many of the tools that I refered to begin with 943 or
094 or 43.. depending on how you read their numbers (ie. a 3/8" 1/2" 6 point socket carries the Sears item number of #0944055 and the mfg number #44055. This does not correspond to any number on that web page. wrote in message oups.com... Sears is a retailer, not a manufacturer. The three-digit prefix before the model number on each Sears-branded item indicates who made it. Here's a list of the codes: http://www.owwm.com/Craftsman/Manufacturers-Name.asp |
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I didn't ask if you were happy with them, just who made them.
"AL" wrote in message ... The sockets are made by Danaher. I'm not sure about the wrenches. With that said, I've been very unhappy with both. "James Stewart" wrote in message ... Does anyone know who makes Craftsman hand tools - i.e. wrenches and socket sets, etc. Do they manufactur them or re-brand another mfg's product. The packages all say "Made in the USA". |
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Several years ago I got tired of paying premium for Sears hand tools.
Knowing Master Mechanic carried the same lifetime warranty, I picked up a set of 3/8 and 1/4 drive tools at a hardware store and mentioned Sears pricing. The owner, a long time neighborhood store operator, said he had sockets marked "craftsman" show up among the Master Mechanic sockets. RonB |
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a faux pas? or clever marketing?
"RonB" wrote in message news:VS4nf.35728$ih5.17362@dukeread11... Several years ago I got tired of paying premium for Sears hand tools. Knowing Master Mechanic carried the same lifetime warranty, I picked up a set of 3/8 and 1/4 drive tools at a hardware store and mentioned Sears pricing. The owner, a long time neighborhood store operator, said he had sockets marked "craftsman" show up among the Master Mechanic sockets. RonB |
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John,
I have to agree with Al on this one. Craftsman hand tools are junk. I used to think they were good too until I used some Mac and Snap-On hand tools. Believe me, there IS a difference. The Craftsman guarantee doesn't help much when you loose an hour to return and replace the broken tool. $40 lost wages to replace a $10-$20 tool doesn't make sense. R.C. On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:08:56 -0700, John DeBoo wrote: Then buy the Craftsman line, not the other **** line that you must be associating with Craftsman. Their hand tools are excellent and a great value. The replacement policy is great and the selection is too. I used them as a mechanic for many many years and only replaced 5-6 at the very most. Still use them and still have them. You sound like one of the typical tool gatherers who frequent this forum and do nothing but bitch about Sears products. John AL wrote: The sockets are made by Danaher. I'm not sure about the wrenches. With that said, I've been very unhappy with both. "James Stewart" wrote in message ... Does anyone know who makes Craftsman hand tools - i.e. wrenches and socket sets, etc. Do they manufactur them or re-brand another mfg's product. The packages all say "Made in the USA". |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:25:28 GMT, "James Stewart"
wrote: the model numbers on many of the tools that I refered to begin with 943 or 094 or 43.. depending on how you read their numbers (ie. a 3/8" 1/2" 6 point socket carries the Sears item number of #0944055 and the mfg number #44055. This does not correspond to any number on that web page. I think you'll find that the first number you listed is the second number (which is actually the catalog number of the item) plus the preceding "09" which denotes the department number (Sears' Hardware/Tools is department 9). I'm not sure where you can find the manufacturer number on the smaller, card mounted tools (individual sockets, for example). It might be on the card, but in any event, the Sears format for whole model numbers (not just the five digit catalog number you referred to) is xxx.xxxxxx, where the first three digits are the manufacturer, the period separates the fields, and the last several digits (could be five, six, or even seven) is the catalog number. wrote in message roups.com... Sears is a retailer, not a manufacturer. The three-digit prefix before the model number on each Sears-branded item indicates who made it. Here's a list of the codes: http://www.owwm.com/Craftsman/Manufacturers-Name.asp -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 |
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"Richard Cranium" wrote in message ... John, I have to agree with Al on this one. Craftsman hand tools are junk. I used to think they were good too until I used some Mac and Snap-On hand tools. Believe me, there IS a difference. The Craftsman guarantee doesn't help much when you loose an hour to return and replace the broken tool. $40 lost wages to replace a $10-$20 tool doesn't make sense. Um like the Mac, Matco, or Snap-On truck is going to be on the spot when you break one of their tools? I admit the more expensive tools feel better when turning wrenches all day long but if you get the better polished Craftsman you would have a hard time telling the difference. |
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As an ex professional mechanic, I will say I hate snap simply for their high
polish, slippery tools. If you work with your hands all day, you could about grab a cactus without problems. Last thing you need is something slippery. I like ratchets and breaker bars with big sharp knurling and wrenches with a large, fat cross section. Snap-On ratchets have those small, slick handles and their wrenches are thin and oval. Great designs to slip and hurt yourself. Alright for working on cars I guess where you really don't have to put much effort into anything but lousy for the big stuff. "Leon" wrote in message om... Um like the Mac, Matco, or Snap-On truck is going to be on the spot when you break one of their tools? I admit the more expensive tools feel better when turning wrenches all day long but if you get the better polished Craftsman you would have a hard time telling the difference. |
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"CW" wrote in message k.net... As an ex professional mechanic, I will say I hate snap simply for their high polish, slippery tools. If you work with your hands all day, you could about grab a cactus without problems. Last thing you need is something slippery. I like ratchets and breaker bars with big sharp knurling and wrenches with a large, fat cross section. Snap-On ratchets have those small, slick handles and their wrenches are thin and oval. Great designs to slip and hurt yourself. Alright for working on cars I guess where you really don't have to put much effort into anything but lousy for the big stuff. CW.. You are not suppose to apply pressure to the polished wrenches. You are suppose to use an air-ratchet on the other side to do the work. LOL. |
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James Stewart wrote:
the model numbers on many of the tools that I refered to begin with 943 or 094 or 43.. depending on how you read their numbers (ie. a 3/8" 1/2" 6 point socket carries the Sears item number of #0944055 and the mfg number #44055. This does not correspond to any number on that web page. You'll usually have to look at the actual product or packaging for the prefix. I've never been able to find it in catalogs or on the web. |
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Ahhh, but consider trying to replace that Snap-On, Mac or Cornwell etc
tool and how long it takes for that guy to come back on his mobile circuit, vs going to a Sears store (provided you have one in your locale) to replace it. Snap-On and many others are great tools, but I found Craftsman to be the best bargain and value, and never once had a problem replacing one, even when I used a cheater and screwed up a wrench or broke a socket myself. They were also a whole lot cheaper than the others. John Richard Cranium wrote: John, I have to agree with Al on this one. Craftsman hand tools are junk. I used to think they were good too until I used some Mac and Snap-On hand tools. Believe me, there IS a difference. The Craftsman guarantee doesn't help much when you loose an hour to return and replace the broken tool. $40 lost wages to replace a $10-$20 tool doesn't make sense. R.C. |
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I'm not saying the Mac or the Snap-On truck is always there. What I
am saying is that their tools break far less often. As an example: I tried to break loose the rusted phillips head screws on some trim moulding by holding the screw driver in the screw head and hitting the screw driver handle with a hammer. The first attempt ruined the Craftsman screw driver. Another mechanic loaned me his Snap-On. I finished the job with his screw driver and it still looked as good as it did when he loaned it to me. I never bought another Craftsman tool since Your mileage may vary. R.C. On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:02:38 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Um like the Mac, Matco, or Snap-On truck is going to be on the spot when you break one of their tools? I admit the more expensive tools feel better when turning wrenches all day long but if you get the better polished Craftsman you would have a hard time telling the difference. |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:47:47 -0600, Richard Cranium
wrote: I'm not saying the Mac or the Snap-On truck is always there. What I am saying is that their tools break far less often. As an example: I tried to break loose the rusted phillips head screws on some trim moulding by holding the screw driver in the screw head and hitting the screw driver handle with a hammer. The first attempt ruined the Craftsman screw driver. Another mechanic loaned me his Snap-On. I finished the job with his screw driver and it still looked as good as it did when he loaned it to me. I never bought another Craftsman tool since Craftsman Phillips head screwdrivers are the worst. I was never able to use one for more than a half dozen screws (sometimes fewer) before it was significantly degraded. The first time I put a Klein on a screw I knew I had to buy a whole new series of screwdrivers (a not insignificant task--I have screwdriver sets in the shop, in the garage, in the computer room, in the Explorer, in my electrical pouch, in my geek--TV/phone--bucket, in my tower climbing belt, and in the radio room). -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:29:57 +0000, LRod wrote:
The only Craftsman tools I own are over 25 years old. When my father passed on last year, his oldr Craftsman, Williams,Fairmount, and Thorsan tools added to my own. Afterspending a fews, ok a few weeks, sorting all them out, all the Tiawan, china, kmart crap left over got put into a big box to got the auction house. Keep all the good stuff, no such thing as to many tool, just not enough storage. |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:37:51 GMT, "CW" wrote:
Last thing you need is something slippery. I like the high polish on Snap-on (easy wipe-down) but I agree that they're too slippery. Th ewrnch handles are too oval, not flattened enough to stop them rotating in your hand. My sockets are Snap-on, but the ratchets and wrenches are Facom. |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:20:19 -0700, John DeBoo
wrote: Ahhh, but consider trying to replace that Snap-On, Mac or Cornwell etc tool and how long it takes for that guy to come back on his mobile circuit, About an hour, if I phone and say it's urgent. |
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John DeBoo wrote: Then buy the Craftsman line, not the other **** line that you must be associating with Craftsman. Their hand tools are excellent and a great value. The replacement policy is great and the selection is too. I used them as a mechanic for many many years and only replaced 5-6 at the very most. Still use them and still have them. You sound like one of the typical tool gatherers who frequent this forum and do nothing but bitch about Sears products. John Are you talking about the line of sockets and wrenches that say Craftsman on the side, and which are sold at Sears, that have the sockets routinely fall off the wrenches because the toleralances are large enough to throw a cat through? The same set where you have to hold the socket with your fingers while racheting because it takes so much goddam pressure to "disengage" the ratchet? Is THAT the line you're talking about? Cause that's the line I have. Did I buy the wrong line of Craftsman? You used them as a mechanic for many years. Which probably means you bought them many years ago, back when they actually were good tools. Times change, John. Perhaps you haven't? |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:37:51 +0000, CW wrote:
As an ex professional mechanic, I will say I hate snap simply for their high polish, slippery tools. If you work with your hands all day, you could about grab a cactus without problems. I worked as a die-maker and had the blue callouses to prove it. (Yes, blue. But that's another thread for another newsgroup.) Some things need a light touch (or a smaller tool with guts), some things need a 3' breaker bar and a 12 pound maul. Snap on makes 'finesse' hand tools and gutsy air wrenches. I don't recall seeing a maul in their catalog. But I had one to go with the 5# and 3# dead blow hammers in my lower drawer and the 3' crowbar hanging from my pull-around handle. Bill |
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Not commenting on this thread, but the usual Snap-On vs Craftsman
threads... I am not a 'professional'... I buy the tools I like and make enough to afford the Snap-On when I get the urge to splurge... I have mostly Craftsman, but have everything else from HF on up... I hate it when 'pro's tell stories how they broke a Craftsman chrome socket with an impact wrench... If I say a 'pro' do that sh$% to my car, I would probably beat (him/her) senseless with one of my 'cheap' tools.... Calling yourself a pro and giving up examples of non-pro work is senseless... In my opinion, if you aren't wrenching for a Formula-1 or other 'Pro' racing team, you are just are not... Richard Cranium wrote: I'm not saying the Mac or the Snap-On truck is always there. What I am saying is that their tools break far less often. As an example: I tried to break loose the rusted phillips head screws on some trim moulding by holding the screw driver in the screw head and hitting the screw driver handle with a hammer. The first attempt ruined the Craftsman screw driver. Another mechanic loaned me his Snap-On. I finished the job with his screw driver and it still looked as good as it did when he loaned it to me. I never bought another Craftsman tool since Your mileage may vary. R.C. On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:02:38 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Um like the Mac, Matco, or Snap-On truck is going to be on the spot when you break one of their tools? I admit the more expensive tools feel better when turning wrenches all day long but if you get the better polished Craftsman you would have a hard time telling the difference. |
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