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I cancelled just seconds after it appeared on my newsreader, so you
might not see it. If you do see it, just ignore it.

It isn't pertinent to the fine people of this NG!

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I cancelled just seconds after it appeared on my newsreader, so you
might not see it. If you do see it, just ignore it.

It isn't pertinent to the fine people of this NG!

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Too late. But it was funny.
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alexy wrote:

David wrote:


I cancelled just seconds after it appeared on my newsreader, so you
might not see it. If you do see it, just ignore it.

It isn't pertinent to the fine people of this NG!

Dave


Too late. But it was funny.

Not only that, but YOU misread my sentence. It WAS a question. g

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Not only that, but YOU misread my sentence. It WAS a question. g

Dave


Here's the sentence for anyone who missed it:

"When a SEEMINGLY level-headed and intelligent person on this NG can't
make the distinction between a declarative statement and a question, I
wonder if there's any shred of hope of my posts EVER being understood
accurately?"

It WAS a declarative sentence. First, there came the introductory
subordinate clause. "When a SEEMINGLY level-headed and intelligent
person on this NG can't make the distinction between a declarative
statement and a question," has a subject (person), a verb phrase (can
make, with "not" as a modifier), and a direct object (distinction).
Then came the main clause. "I wonder if there's any shred of hope of
my posts EVER being understood accurately?" This, too, has a subject
(I) and a verb (wonder) and then a subordinate clause being used as the
direct object ("there's" is both subject and verb - "there" + "is").
But the clause is obviously declarative. It makes the statement "I
wonder". A question is NOT being asked, so the question mark should be
replaced with a period or an exclamation point, as your emotions
dictate.

It's true: I have WAY too much time on my hands sometimes.

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For all that, you still missed the fact that the sentence asked a
question! (The "I wonder... part)

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David wrote:
JLarsson wrote:


For all that, you still missed the fact that the sentence asked a
question! (The "I wonder... part)

Dave


Dave - I was just having fun, but seriously - "I wonder" is actually an
indirect question, not requiring (or desiring) a question mark.

From http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/gramm...s/question.htm


"Be careful not to put a question mark at the end of an indirect
question.

The instructor asked the students what they were doing.
I asked my sister if she had a date.
I wonder if Cheney will run for vice president again.
I wonder whether Cheney will run again. "

Regards -

JLarsson

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JLarsson wrote:

David wrote:

JLarsson wrote:


For all that, you still missed the fact that the sentence asked a
question! (The "I wonder... part)

Dave



Dave - I was just having fun, but seriously - "I wonder" is actually an
indirect question, not requiring (or desiring) a question mark.

From http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/gramm...s/question.htm


"Be careful not to put a question mark at the end of an indirect
question.

The instructor asked the students what they were doing.
I asked my sister if she had a date.
I wonder if Cheney will run for vice president again.
I wonder whether Cheney will run again. "

Regards -

JLarsson

I hear what you are saying, but there are TWO ways to SAY a sentence
such as "I wonder if Cheney..." One way is to say it with a level pitch
, making it a statement, and the other way is to use a rising inflection
to make it a question worthy of an answer by the listener(s).

Peace!

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JLarsson wrote:


For all that, you still missed the fact that the sentence asked a
question! (The "I wonder... part)

Dave


Actually I believe it is a statement or declaration about something you are
thinking about.


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Leon wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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JLarsson wrote:


For all that, you still missed the fact that the sentence asked a
question! (The "I wonder... part)

Dave



Actually I believe it is a statement or declaration about something you are
thinking about.


You mean you didn't couldn't hear my rising inflection at the end of the
sentence, making it a question (along with the words "I wonder")?

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You mean you didn't couldn't hear my rising inflection at the end of the

dammit! I type at a different rate than I think. Strike "didn't"

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You mean you didn't couldn't hear my rising inflection at the end of the
sentence, making it a question (along with the words "I wonder")?



Well no, I read it as a statement that oddly ends with a question mark.
But then I am a Texan. LOL


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You mean you didn't couldn't hear my rising inflection at the end of the
sentence, making it a question (along with the words "I wonder")?




Well no, I read it as a statement that oddly ends with a question mark.
But then I am a Texan. LOL


Then the lack of a regional accent on my part must have thrown you off!

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David wrote:
JLarsson wrote:


For all that, you still missed the fact that the sentence asked a
question! (The "I wonder... part)

Dave


Dave - I was just having fun, but seriously - "I wonder" is actually an
indirect question, not requiring (or desiring) a question mark.

From http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/gramm...s/question.htm


"Be careful not to put a question mark at the end of an indirect
question.

The instructor asked the students what they were doing.
I asked my sister if she had a date.
I wonder if Cheney will run for vice president again.
I wonder whether Cheney will run again. "

Regards -

JLarsson



JLarsson-

you're wasting your time. if you want to see details, search google
groups for David's previous nym- Bay Area Dave. all will be clear.
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"JLarsson" wrote in message

Dave - I was just having fun, but seriously - "I wonder" is actually an
indirect question, not requiring (or desiring) a question mark.


I wonder if that is true.


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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"JLarsson" wrote in message

Dave - I was just having fun, but seriously - "I wonder" is actually an
indirect question, not requiring (or desiring) a question mark.



I wonder if that is true.


OR, "I wonder if that is true?" g

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"Be careful not to put a question mark at the end of an indirect
question.

The instructor asked the students what they were doing.
I asked my sister if she had a date.
I wonder if Cheney will run for vice president again.
I wonder whether Cheney will run again. "

Regards -

JLarsson


Thank God you folks aren't splitting infinitives or substituting
articles with conjunctions! g (Those are MY pet peeves.)

George


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Well no, I read it as a statement that oddly ends with a question mark.
But then I am a Texan. LOL



And you can read?

Sorry 'bout that - couldn't hep m'sef.





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