I've always puttered around in my father's workshop and finally have an
area of my own in which I can build a workshop. The first thing I need
is to get the right tools.

I have fine handtools and am looking for equally good power tools. I
have a really nice Makita miter saw.

Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444
Router - Bosch 1617EVS
Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"
Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

I plan on mounting the router to an extension table to the table saw.
The Scroll saw would sit on its own bench, lined up with another work bench.

The list above comes from reading various reviews and checking out
various specs. But of course, hearing from regular wood-nuts would be
far more valuable to me.

Thanks!

Jack

mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net wrote:

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Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444

I think I'd spend the extra $80 for the cast iron wings and opt for the
G0444Z.

Router - Bosch 1617EVS

A decent router. The 2.25 HP should handle most use.

Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"

The DeWalt DW788 would be my choice.


Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

I have a 6" x 48" / 9" belt/disk sander that seldom gets used. Unless
you have a specific need I wouldn't be in a hurry to purchase this item.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

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Whaddyawanna build? For some things, a bandsaw, lathe, or jointer/planer
might be more useful than the last two items on your list.

Clint

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message ...
I've always puttered around in my father's workshop and finally have an
area of my own in which I can build a workshop. The first thing I need is
to get the right tools.

I have fine handtools and am looking for equally good power tools. I have
a really nice Makita miter saw.

Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444
Router - Bosch 1617EVS
Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"
Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

I plan on mounting the router to an extension table to the table saw.
The Scroll saw would sit on its own bench, lined up with another work
bench.

The list above comes from reading various reviews and checking out various
specs. But of course, hearing from regular wood-nuts would be far more
valuable to me.

Thanks!

Jack

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message
Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444
Router - Bosch 1617EVS
Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"
Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

I plan on mounting the router to an extension table to the table saw.
The Scroll saw would sit on its own bench, lined up with another work
bench.

The choices look OK. Do you have specific projects in mind? The reason I
ask is the tools you will buy. Thee are people that make a hobby of just
scroll sawing. I've yet to buy one myself. I do have a bandsaw though. I
use my belt sander a lot. Great for final finishing a dimension or curved
piece. In short order, consider a drill press too. Let your projects help
guide the sequence of tools to acquire.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

Ah, good point. Forgot to say what I'd be using the workshop for! LOL

Well, I think I'm more interested in making puzzles, boxes, maybe some
intarsia ... fun stuff like that. I don't think I'd ever get into using
a lathe (though my father certainly loved it). I don't think I'll get
into cabinet making or something like that either, but who knows?

The two items that interest me the most are working with the scroll saw
and the router. Over time, if I get good at using these, I'll probably
find myself needing better equipment. For now, I set my sights on
mid-range items.

Jack

Clint wrote:

Whaddyawanna build? For some things, a bandsaw, lathe, or jointer/planer
might be more useful than the last two items on your list.

Clint

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message ...

I've always puttered around in my father's workshop and finally have an
area of my own in which I can build a workshop. The first thing I need is
to get the right tools.

I have fine handtools and am looking for equally good power tools. I have
a really nice Makita miter saw.

Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444
Router - Bosch 1617EVS
Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"
Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

I plan on mounting the router to an extension table to the table saw.
The Scroll saw would sit on its own bench, lined up with another work
bench.

The list above comes from reading various reviews and checking out various
specs. But of course, hearing from regular wood-nuts would be far more
valuable to me.

Thanks!

Jack

Oops! Forgot all about a drill press. Do you have any recommendations?
I'd probably never need a monster type, just something for smaller work.
Being able to do some fine-detailed drilling would be nice too.

Jack

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message

Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444
Router - Bosch 1617EVS
Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"
Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

I plan on mounting the router to an extension table to the table saw.
The Scroll saw would sit on its own bench, lined up with another work
bench.


The choices look OK. Do you have specific projects in mind? The reason I
ask is the tools you will buy. Thee are people that make a hobby of just
scroll sawing. I've yet to buy one myself. I do have a bandsaw though. I
use my belt sander a lot. Great for final finishing a dimension or curved
piece. In short order, consider a drill press too. Let your projects help
guide the sequence of tools to acquire.

"mywebaccts wrote in message

The first thing I need
is to get the right tools.

Nope ... the first thing you need to do is figure out where your interests
lay in woodworking, then buy those tools that will help you accomplish that
interest, as you need them.

Examples: A cabinet shop _needs_ a table saw, many furniture makers get buy
with a bandsaw; many wooddorkers don't own a scrollsaw and basically have
very little use for one ... in short, there are tools in just about any
shop, purchased on a perceived need instead of an actual need, that never
get used.

You've already gotten an excellent indication of the underlying wisdom of
this with the reply on the questionable need for a disc sander.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 8/07/05

On 2005/8/14 3:59 PM, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at)
PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

Ah, good point. Forgot to say what I'd be using the workshop for! LOL

Well, I think I'm more interested in making puzzles, boxes, maybe some
intarsia ... fun stuff like that. I don't think I'd ever get into using
a lathe (though my father certainly loved it). I don't think I'll get
into cabinet making or something like that either, but who knows?



Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444
Router - Bosch 1617EVS
Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"
Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

Given that you have a miter saw, I would suggest a band saw instead of the
table saw.

Also, I would go with an oscillating belt/spindle sander rather than the
disk/belt combination.

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message ...
Oops! Forgot all about a drill press. Do you have any recommendations?
I'd probably never need a monster type, just something for smaller work.
Being able to do some fine-detailed drilling would be nice too.

Jack

I've very happy with my 12" Delta (about $200) I since built and auxiliary
table for it with stops and fence. .The table has a crank to raise and
lower it. Some small cheap ones do not and would be a PITA to use.

You mentioned intarsia in another post. You may find something like the
Ridgid belt/orbital sander to be a good choice for your needs.

Maybe you've already covered this, but the most handy tool I have is my
bench.

It is wonderful to have a 6' space that is sturdy and flat and will hold
still when I plane, drill, etc on it. That and the vice make a real
difference.

Walt Cheever


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote
in message ...
I've always puttered around in my father's workshop and finally have an
area of my own in which I can build a workshop. The first thing I need is
to get the right tools.

I have fine handtools and am looking for equally good power tools. I have
a really nice Makita miter saw.

Here's the list of tools I'm looking to buy. I'd appreciate any comments
or suggestions regarding the list.

Table saw - Grizzly G0444
Router - Bosch 1617EVS
Scroll saw - Either a Dewalt DW788 20" or a Delta 40-570R 16"
Belt/Disc Sander - Wilton 99175 4"x36"/9"
or the Craftsman 21536 4"x36"/9"

I plan on mounting the router to an extension table to the table saw.
The Scroll saw would sit on its own bench, lined up with another work
bench.

The list above comes from reading various reviews and checking out various
specs. But of course, hearing from regular wood-nuts would be far more
valuable to me.

Thanks!

Jack

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:59:44 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

Ah, good point. Forgot to say what I'd be using the workshop for! LOL

Well, I think I'm more interested in making puzzles, boxes, maybe some
intarsia ... fun stuff like that. I don't think I'd ever get into using
a lathe (though my father certainly loved it). I don't think I'll get
into cabinet making or something like that either, but who knows?

Yeah, stay away from lathes. They take over your whole shop, and
cover everything in spiral shavings and cause you to eye up every wood
pile in the neighborhood with sheer letchery. Nasty things, those...


For what you've got listed, you might want to consider a thickness
planer and a small bandsaw as well. My wife does some scroll sawing,
and most of the use my planer gets is thinning 4/4 stock for her
projects, as thinner stock is often hard to find. The bandsaw, when
small, is handy for cutting the outline of your projects for the
scroll saw (I've found it's a lot quicker and easier than a scroll
saw, myself- it just can't do interior cuts) and when larger, is good
for resawing standard lumber before running it through the
aforementioned planer so you have two finished boards instead of one
and a big pile of mulch!

The two items that interest me the most are working with the scroll saw
and the router. Over time, if I get good at using these, I'll probably
find myself needing better equipment. For now, I set my sights on
mid-range items.

The mid-range you've got listed is a very good start- you may find
that they're all you need for the long haul. Just stay away from the
really little stuff- it can do good work if you're careful, but you'll
want to upgrade right away.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:00:55 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

Oops! Forgot all about a drill press. Do you have any recommendations?
I'd probably never need a monster type, just something for smaller work.
Being able to do some fine-detailed drilling would be nice too.

Ah. Drill presses, IMO are one of the few tools that you can get by
on the cheap side with. I've got a little "Tool Shop" one the wife
got me- I groaned inwardly when I opened it up, but it has been
plugging along for quite a while, and has had absolutely no problems.
Just get whatever looks good to you- but don't skimp on the bits!

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:37:23 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:


"mywebaccts wrote in message

The first thing I need
is to get the right tools.

Nope ... the first thing you need to do is figure out where your interests
lay in woodworking, then buy those tools that will help you accomplish that
interest, as you need them.

Examples: A cabinet shop _needs_ a table saw, many furniture makers get buy
with a bandsaw; many wooddorkers don't own a scrollsaw and basically have
very little use for one ... in short, there are tools in just about any
shop, purchased on a perceived need instead of an actual need, that never
get used.

You've already gotten an excellent indication of the underlying wisdom of
this with the reply on the questionable need for a disc sander.

Have to agree with this one- lots of people could care less about
having a belt/disc sander, but I use mine all the time- more than the
drill press, certainly. Works great for smoothing curved table legs,
but I don't know how useful it'd be for a scroll sawyer.

*snip*


Have to agree with this one- lots of people could care less about
having a belt/disc sander, but I use mine all the time- more than the
drill press, certainly. Works great for smoothing curved table legs,
but I don't know how useful it'd be for a scroll sawyer.


Chances are a rotary sander with small drums would be better for a scroll
sawer. While they're harder to get a smooth, even surface with, they'll
get into areas any other power sander wouldn't hope to fit in.

Puckdropper
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Old computers are getting to be a lost art. Here at Uncreative Labs, we
still enjoy using the old computers. Sometimes we want to see how far a
particular system can go, other times we use a stock system to remind
ourselves of what we once had.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

The Delta 11-950 bench drill press I bought has a pin that I thought
would secure the table at 90°. How wrong I was! It flops back and
forth so much that I put blocks underneath to secure it for particular
holes. Guess I expected too much for the $135 in 1992.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:59:25 -0500, Prometheus
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:00:55 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

Oops! Forgot all about a drill press. Do you have any recommendations?
I'd probably never need a monster type, just something for smaller work.
Being able to do some fine-detailed drilling would be nice too.

Ah. Drill presses, IMO are one of the few tools that you can get by
on the cheap side with. I've got a little "Tool Shop" one the wife
got me- I groaned inwardly when I opened it up, but it has been
plugging along for quite a while, and has had absolutely no problems.
Just get whatever looks good to you- but don't skimp on the bits!

nospambob wrote:
The Delta 11-950 bench drill press I bought has a pin that I thought
would secure the table at 90=B0. How wrong I was! It flops back and
forth so much that I put blocks underneath to secure it for particular
holes. Guess I expected too much for the $135 in 1992.

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:59:25 -0500, Prometheus
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:00:55 -0600, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" wrote:

Oops! Forgot all about a drill press. Do you have any recommendations?
I'd probably never need a monster type, just something for smaller work.
Being able to do some fine-detailed drilling would be nice too.

Ah. Drill presses, IMO are one of the few tools that you can get by
on the cheap side with. I've got a little "Tool Shop" one the wife
got me- I groaned inwardly when I opened it up, but it has been
plugging along for quite a while, and has had absolutely no problems.
Just get whatever looks good to you- but don't skimp on the bits!

I have one of the Cheap Tool Road Show type Drill presses. I have had
it for at least 12 years and it is still going and gets frequent use.
I have replaced the belt once on it. The original was nothing more
than cords when it came apart last year. It is a table top version
with about 8 inches of working area under the bit and the table all the
way down. I have thought about replacing the shaft with a longer piece
of pipe of equal diameter.

One funny thing that has happened to my drill press, I was going to do
some drilling once and it had been a few months since touching the
drill. I started to run the bit down and was met with a great
resistance. The bit would not return to its up most position either.
So, I started taking the press apart. What I found to be the problem
was large amounts of Rat Poison pellets stored inside the workings of
the press around the gears for the arbor shaft. Seems that the rats
could climb up the shaft from the opening at the bottom up to the top
which just happen to open right up in the gear area. Cleaned out the
gears and stuff and lubed everything up again and all was well.