I used to buy shellac from O'deen at shellac.net, then when he folded up
shop, I went to Russ Ramirez at woodfinishingsupplies.com , but now he's
folded up shop. So today I went to Liberon who I think took over O'deen's
deal and they're out of all three flavors I want and say they won't be in
stock for "months".

Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.

Thanks for any help,

Glenn de Souza
Scottsdale, Arizona

"Glenn de Souza" wrote in message
news:yCzHe.168222$go.89632@fed1read05...
I used to buy shellac from O'deen at shellac.net, then when he folded up
shop, I went to Russ Ramirez at woodfinishingsupplies.com , but now he's
folded up shop. So today I went to Liberon who I think took over O'deen's
deal and they're out of all three flavors I want and say they won't be in
stock for "months".

Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.

Thanks for any help,

Glenn de Souza
Scottsdale, Arizona


I buy from shellac.net/ whats the problem there? Site is up and running

Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.


Don't know what color you want but

http://www.hockfinishes.com/

has 3 types at $20/lb (plus shipping)

No commercial interest, but like his irons!

On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:01:13 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:02:20 -0700, Glenn de Souza wrote:


Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only
two tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of
Behlen's, or the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the
$12-$15 range.

Got the Hock flakes from www.toolsforworkingwood.com IIRC, it was around
19.00/lb for the de-waxed blonde type.

Our local Woodcraft also stocks Hock shellac for ~$20/lb.

--
-Joe Wells

I've got 10-15 lbs of decent orange shellac flakes I'll part with for
$5 a lb. (plus shipping). I'd be glad to send you a few ounces if
you're interested. Reply off list with a mailing address.

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:02:20 -0700, the opaque "Glenn de Souza"
clearly wrote:

I used to buy shellac from O'deen at shellac.net, then when he folded up
shop, I went to Russ Ramirez at woodfinishingsupplies.com , but now he's
folded up shop. So today I went to Liberon who I think took over O'deen's
deal and they're out of all three flavors I want and say they won't be in
stock for "months".

Like Paddy said, many moons ago, shipping over the summer months is
dangerous to the product. It simply isn't done. I'd imagine that
receiving a FIVE POUND BUTTON of what was supposed to be shellac
-flakes- would tend to **** off the customers.


Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.

It really sucks that Russ closed down, doesn't it? I'm glad I got
stocked up a couple months ago. I don't know if Ron Hock ships his
(pricy) shellac during the summer, but you might give him a holler.
Have him pack it in dry ice for ya. I don't want to imagine how hot
the inside of a dark brown UPS truck gets in 110° weather.

You might break down and try Waterlox some day, Glenn. It's as easy as
shellac to put on, and it's a tougher finish. The oils pop the grain
automatically, too. Wunnerful stuff, that.


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Hi Larry,

Paddy's former place, shellac.net (now operated by Liberon) seems to be out
of everything I want for "months". With Russ gone, maybe cheap shellac is
gone also.

I like Waterlox a lot, ever since you passed it on after it was placed in
your hand by the woodworking god Frank Klausz! It is great stuff no doubt.
Pops grain like no other.

I like tinting the shellacs for effect using Transtints, and that doesn't
work well with Waterlox. Also, sometimes you're just looking for a fast
drying spit coat, and dewaxed shellac really fits the bill.




"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:02:20 -0700, the opaque "Glenn de Souza"
clearly wrote:

I used to buy shellac from O'deen at shellac.net, then when he folded up
shop, I went to Russ Ramirez at woodfinishingsupplies.com , but now he's
folded up shop. So today I went to Liberon who I think took over O'deen's
deal and they're out of all three flavors I want and say they won't be in
stock for "months".

Like Paddy said, many moons ago, shipping over the summer months is
dangerous to the product. It simply isn't done. I'd imagine that
receiving a FIVE POUND BUTTON of what was supposed to be shellac
-flakes- would tend to **** off the customers.


Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.

It really sucks that Russ closed down, doesn't it? I'm glad I got
stocked up a couple months ago. I don't know if Ron Hock ships his
(pricy) shellac during the summer, but you might give him a holler.
Have him pack it in dry ice for ya. I don't want to imagine how hot
the inside of a dark brown UPS truck gets in 110° weather.

You might break down and try Waterlox some day, Glenn. It's as easy as
shellac to put on, and it's a tougher finish. The oils pop the grain
automatically, too. Wunnerful stuff, that.


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Glenn de Souza wrote:
...

Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.


Don't know about the price, but from time to time people report
finding shellac flakes at Sherwin Williams stores.

I think most of the woodworking supply catalog/online stores sell
shellac flakes. Check with Constatines's, Rockler's, Woodcraft,
Van Dyke's etc.

--

FF

www.homesteadfinishing.com

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:02:20 -0700, "Glenn de Souza"
wrote:

I used to buy shellac from O'deen at shellac.net, then when he folded up
shop, I went to Russ Ramirez at woodfinishingsupplies.com , but now he's
folded up shop. So today I went to Liberon who I think took over O'deen's
deal and they're out of all three flavors I want and say they won't be in
stock for "months".

Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.

Thanks for any help,

Glenn de Souza
Scottsdale, Arizona

A 1/2" - 5/8" thick layer of flat newspaper works perfect for sending chocolates,
I know that for a fact. And chocolates are definitely much softer than shallac flakes!

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

nospambob wrote in
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www.homesteadfinishing.com


Ain't cheap, but it is reasonable. Selection and service is good, too.

I've also used the Hock flake, with no complaint, but the color range is
more limited.

Jeff had the german-refined super-blonde in liquid and flake when I needed
it last winter, when the Mendocino folks couldn't seem to get any. Their
business, (the Mendocino folks) by the way, has changed locations and
focus, with the associated bumps in the road...

Patriarch

Glenn de Souza wrote:
Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.

Lee Valley has orange for $11.50/lb (less for larger orders), and sells
it in various quantities. Their super blonde (dewaxed) is quite a bit
more expensive ($30/lb). http://leevalley.com

I don't have any relationship with them except that I and others have
always found them to be a great company to deal with. I've used their
orange shellac and it's top-drawer stuff. No experience with the
blonde.

Marc

In article lfLHe.168293$go.90577@fed1read05, says...
I like tinting the shellacs for effect using Transtints, and that doesn't
work well with Waterlox. Also, sometimes you're just looking for a fast
drying spit coat, and dewaxed shellac really fits the bill.

Zinnser's Sealcoat? A 1 pound cut of dewaxed. Lots easier than flakes
:-).

--
BNSF = Build Now, Seep Forever

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:02:20 -0700, Glenn de Souza wrote:


Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.


Got the Hock flakes from www.toolsforworkingwood.com
IIRC, it was around 19.00/lb for the de-waxed blonde type.

Not affiliated, just satisfied

Zinsser doesn't recommend Seal Coat as finish coat for whatever
reason. It is dewaxed and they assert 3 year shelf life.

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:59:26 -0700, lgb wrote:

In article lfLHe.168293$go.90577@fed1read05, says...
I like tinting the shellacs for effect using Transtints, and that doesn't
work well with Waterlox. Also, sometimes you're just looking for a fast
drying spit coat, and dewaxed shellac really fits the bill.

Zinnser's Sealcoat? A 1 pound cut of dewaxed. Lots easier than flakes
:-).

In article ,
says...
Zinsser doesn't recommend Seal Coat as finish coat for whatever
reason. It is dewaxed and they assert 3 year shelf life.


I was referring to the "spit coat" the OP mentioned.

That said, I've used Sealcoat as a padded on finish coat with no
problem.


--
BNSF = Build Now, Seep Forever

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 07:16:46 -0700, the opaque "Glenn de Souza"
clearly wrote:

Hi Larry,

Paddy's former place, shellac.net (now operated by Liberon) seems to be out
of everything I want for "months". With Russ gone, maybe cheap shellac is
gone also.

I believe it is. Russ was higher than Paddy and Liberon is higher
still, with Hock coming in higher yet. Where are the real discounters
of Indian bug spit, damnit? I stocked up with a gallon of Waterlox
just before Russ bailed.


I like Waterlox a lot, ever since you passed it on after it was placed in
your hand by the woodworking god Frank Klausz! It is great stuff no doubt.
Pops grain like no other.

I'd always loved varnish, despite the slow drying, but Waterlox is
generations ahead with the old technology of linseed and tung oils
thrown in as the kickers. Loverly combo.


I like tinting the shellacs for effect using Transtints, and that doesn't
work well with Waterlox. Also, sometimes you're just looking for a fast
drying spit coat, and dewaxed shellac really fits the bill.

I still have some of Paddy's blonde flakes in my shop and use it on
occasion. It's great to keep jigs from getting fingerprinted, too.


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Daggone it! This is what I get for flitting in and out of here. Just
when I was thinking that in another month or so I might be ready to
place an order for some finishing stuff for the new kitchen to be.

Was there any warning/heads up that Russ was closing up shop?

Thanx
Renata

On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 05:58:13 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:
-snip-
It really sucks that Russ closed down, doesn't it? I'm glad I got
stocked up a couple months ago. I don't know if Ron Hock ships his
(pricy) shellac during the summer, but you might give him a holler.
Have him pack it in dry ice for ya. I don't want to imagine how hot
the inside of a dark brown UPS truck gets in 110° weather.

You might break down and try Waterlox some day, Glenn. It's as easy as
shellac to put on, and it's a tougher finish. The oils pop the grain
automatically, too. Wunnerful stuff, that.


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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:35:56 -0400, the opaque Renata
clearly wrote:

Daggone it! This is what I get for flitting in and out of here. Just
when I was thinking that in another month or so I might be ready to
place an order for some finishing stuff for the new kitchen to be.

Was there any warning/heads up that Russ was closing up shop?

Only on the website, as it was happening. He was closing out
entire sections of the site when I first noticed it and
commented on it. Then I read the home page and saw his message.
I'd been going directly to bookmarked pages I ordered from.
sigh


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His forum responses have been slower in the last several weeks but the
closing was quick! www.homesteadfinishing.com has active forums and I
believe a wider assortment of stock than Russ has. Jeff has several
forums and until recently moderated all of them himself but now he has
found some help, thankfully. Check it out.


On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:35:56 -0400, Renata
wrote:

Daggone it! This is what I get for flitting in and out of here. Just
when I was thinking that in another month or so I might be ready to
place an order for some finishing stuff for the new kitchen to be.

Was there any warning/heads up that Russ was closing up shop?

Thanx
Renata

On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 05:58:13 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:
-snip-
It really sucks that Russ closed down, doesn't it? I'm glad I got
stocked up a couple months ago. I don't know if Ron Hock ships his
(pricy) shellac during the summer, but you might give him a holler.
Have him pack it in dry ice for ya. I don't want to imagine how hot
the inside of a dark brown UPS truck gets in 110° weather.

You might break down and try Waterlox some day, Glenn. It's as easy as
shellac to put on, and it's a tougher finish. The oils pop the grain
automatically, too. Wunnerful stuff, that.


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replying to Glenn de Souza, Greg wrote:
unispec wrote:

I used to buy shellac from O'deen at shellac.net, then when he folded up
shop, I went to Russ Ramirez at woodfinishingsupplies.com , but now he's
folded up shop. So today I went to Liberon who I think took over O'deen's
deal and they're out of all three flavors I want and say they won't be in
stock for "months".
Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.
Thanks for any help,
Glenn de Souza
Scottsdale, Arizona



The best quality and priced shellac is found at http://wellermart.com/

I have not seen better prices any place. Good Luck.

--

replying to Glenn de Souza,
Seems like there are only
two tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of
Behlen's, or the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the
$12-$15 range.

Hmmmm, there is a message there perhaps.

Sort of like the old story:
Cheap
Fast
Good
Pick any two

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
replying to Glenn de Souza,
Seems like there are only
two tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of
Behlen's, or the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the
$12-$15 range.

Hmmmm, there is a message there perhaps.

Sort of like the old story:
Cheap
Fast
Good
Pick any two

Or the guy explaining to another how he used to give discounts to all of
his customers right up until he went out of business. Without a good gross
profit the more important net profit needed, to keep the doors open, is
impossible.

On 7/25/2015 8:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

replying to Glenn de Souza,
Seems like there are only
two tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of
Behlen's, or the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the
$12-$15 range.

Hmmmm, there is a message there perhaps.

Sort of like the old story:
Cheap
Fast
Good
Pick any two


"Quality is like oats. If you want good quality oats, you have to pay a
fair price. If you are willing to settle for oats that have already been
through the horse, those come a bit cheaper."

Will Rogers, Jr.

Ed Pawlowski wrote in newsfudnXvEE96NqynInZ2dnUU7-
:


replying to Glenn de Souza,
Seems like there are only
two tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of
Behlen's, or the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the
$12-$15 range.

Hmmmm, there is a message there perhaps.

Sort of like the old story:
Cheap
Fast
Good
Pick any two

If I remember correctly, when O'Deen started shellac.net he
wasn't really intending to make a profit at it. He had
developed an enthusiasm for shellac finishes on his own
work, and found a source who'd sell him shellac in bulk,
so he was mainly looking for a way to get rid of the excess.

I doubt you'd find shellac for much less than $25 now, except
maybe for the darkest grades.

John

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 06:33:46 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 8:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

replying to Glenn de Souza,
Seems like there are only
two tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of
Behlen's, or the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the
$12-$15 range.

Hmmmm, there is a message there perhaps.

Sort of like the old story:
Cheap
Fast
Good
Pick any two


"Quality is like oats. If you want good quality oats, you have to pay a
fair price. If you are willing to settle for oats that have already been
through the horse, those come a bit cheaper."

The problem is that all too often, one pays front-end prices for
back-end product.

On Monday, August 1, 2005 at 8:02:20 PM UTC-5, Glenn de Souza wrote:
I used to buy shellac from O'deen at shellac.net, then when he folded up
shop, I went to Russ Ramirez at woodfinishingsupplies.com , but now he's
folded up shop. So today I went to Liberon who I think took over O'deen's
deal and they're out of all three flavors I want and say they won't be in
stock for "months".

Any other cheap place to buy shellac flake? Seems like there are only two
tier of vendors, the ones who want $25-$30/lb for a pound of Behlen's, or
the other extinct guys mentioned above who were in the $12-$15 range.

Thanks for any help,

Glenn de Souza
Scottsdale, Arizona


I am really surprised no one recommended the Shellac Shack. Prices are good, quality is good and the shipping fast.